Theme Color Indicator in PPT 2007

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NY Law Firm Trainer

We are migrating from Office 2002 to Office 2007, and need to migrate our PPT
templates over effectively. In PPT 2002, when you refer to the color of an
element (E.G. Fill for an AutoShape or Font for text), you see which color
swatch on the Color Scheme palette is current, or the one in use (unless its
an RGB setting outside of the standard set of colors.) Several elements in
presentations based on standard Themes in 2007 seem to be pointing to no
particular color on the palatte. Is this a known issue?
 
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Echo S

Yes, assuming you mean that you can apply a theme color to an object and
then when you look at the color picker, you can't tell what's been applied.
I think sometimes this happens also when you've selected something from one
of the QuickStyle Galleries.

Do you have any specific examples? If so, I can try to confirm them here.
 
N

NY Law Firm Trainer

Thanks for your response. Have worked out that there are several instances in
which if colors outside the current Theme are applied, the Color Picker won't
indicate them. Have now progressed on to these following. We have battled to
get users to use the abide by the Color Scheme in our 2002 template, helping
them to see how it uses specific colors for particular elements, e.g. Text &
Lines, Fills, Accents, etc. Is there any cross reference to the new color
placeholders being just Text/Background Light & Dark 1 & 2, and Accents 1 -
6? It's obvious what Hyperlink and Followed Hyperlink are for, but how do I
know which of the Accents to use for bullets, or fills? How do I know which
is the color for Titles as opposed to text?

Echo S said:
Yes, assuming you mean that you can apply a theme color to an object and
then when you look at the color picker, you can't tell what's been applied.
I think sometimes this happens also when you've selected something from one
of the QuickStyle Galleries.

Do you have any specific examples? If so, I can try to confirm them here.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


NY Law Firm Trainer said:
We are migrating from Office 2002 to Office 2007, and need to migrate our
PPT
templates over effectively. In PPT 2002, when you refer to the color of an
element (E.G. Fill for an AutoShape or Font for text), you see which color
swatch on the Color Scheme palette is current, or the one in use (unless
its
an RGB setting outside of the standard set of colors.) Several elements in
presentations based on standard Themes in 2007 seem to be pointing to no
particular color on the palatte. Is this a known issue?
 
E

Echo S

Don't think of them as colors for a specific item, just think of them as
Color 1, Color 2, Color 3, etc. You can apply any of those to any item on
the slides or slide master.

For example, if the slide title placeholder formatting on the slide master
has Color 3 applied and you later apply a new color scheme, the slide titles
will become whatever Color 3 is in that new scheme. If you think about it
this way, you'll realize that the labeling on the old color schemes was more
limiting than not.

Take a look at some of the installed design themes for more examples. Open a
new, blank presentation and apply the Urban design theme. In Urban, the
bullet point is Accent 3 (and the slide titles are Text 2). In Solstice, the
bullet point is Accent 1 (and the slide titles are Text 2). So it doesn't
really matter which accent you use for bullets, etc. If you're still in
Solstice and you choose Colors (on the Design tab), then Flow, you'll see
everything turn to shades of blue, because that's what the Flow color scheme
is all about. The bullet is still Accent 1, but now Accent 1 is a blue
color.

In Technic, you'll see the slide title text is Text 1. The Dark1/Light1 and
Dark2/Light2 are also called Background and Text. The goal of these pairs is
to provide dark and light combinations so that when you apply a dark
background to a slide, the text automatically becomes light, and vice-versa.
So if you were to take Technic and click Background Styles on the Design tab
and choose a white background, you'll see the text automatically become
black. And if you look at the colors in the color picker, you'll see the
black and white have reversed, and now black is "Text 1."

http://www.echosvoice.com/colorschemes.htm has more information about color
schemes. Although it's written for 2003, the principle still applies in PPT
2007.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


NY Law Firm Trainer said:
Thanks for your response. Have worked out that there are several instances
in
which if colors outside the current Theme are applied, the Color Picker
won't
indicate them. Have now progressed on to these following. We have battled
to
get users to use the abide by the Color Scheme in our 2002 template,
helping
them to see how it uses specific colors for particular elements, e.g. Text
&
Lines, Fills, Accents, etc. Is there any cross reference to the new color
placeholders being just Text/Background Light & Dark 1 & 2, and Accents
1 -
6? It's obvious what Hyperlink and Followed Hyperlink are for, but how do
I
know which of the Accents to use for bullets, or fills? How do I know
which
is the color for Titles as opposed to text?

Echo S said:
Yes, assuming you mean that you can apply a theme color to an object and
then when you look at the color picker, you can't tell what's been
applied.
I think sometimes this happens also when you've selected something from
one
of the QuickStyle Galleries.

Do you have any specific examples? If so, I can try to confirm them here.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


in
message news:[email protected]...
We are migrating from Office 2002 to Office 2007, and need to migrate
our
PPT
templates over effectively. In PPT 2002, when you refer to the color of
an
element (E.G. Fill for an AutoShape or Font for text), you see which
color
swatch on the Color Scheme palette is current, or the one in use
(unless
its
an RGB setting outside of the standard set of colors.) Several elements
in
presentations based on standard Themes in 2007 seem to be pointing to
no
particular color on the palatte. Is this a known issue?
 
N

NY Law Firm Trainer

Echo,

Thanks! Excellent, very useful log.

Best,
NYLFT

Echo S said:
Don't think of them as colors for a specific item, just think of them as
Color 1, Color 2, Color 3, etc. You can apply any of those to any item on
the slides or slide master.

For example, if the slide title placeholder formatting on the slide master
has Color 3 applied and you later apply a new color scheme, the slide titles
will become whatever Color 3 is in that new scheme. If you think about it
this way, you'll realize that the labeling on the old color schemes was more
limiting than not.

Take a look at some of the installed design themes for more examples. Open a
new, blank presentation and apply the Urban design theme. In Urban, the
bullet point is Accent 3 (and the slide titles are Text 2). In Solstice, the
bullet point is Accent 1 (and the slide titles are Text 2). So it doesn't
really matter which accent you use for bullets, etc. If you're still in
Solstice and you choose Colors (on the Design tab), then Flow, you'll see
everything turn to shades of blue, because that's what the Flow color scheme
is all about. The bullet is still Accent 1, but now Accent 1 is a blue
color.

In Technic, you'll see the slide title text is Text 1. The Dark1/Light1 and
Dark2/Light2 are also called Background and Text. The goal of these pairs is
to provide dark and light combinations so that when you apply a dark
background to a slide, the text automatically becomes light, and vice-versa.
So if you were to take Technic and click Background Styles on the Design tab
and choose a white background, you'll see the text automatically become
black. And if you look at the colors in the color picker, you'll see the
black and white have reversed, and now black is "Text 1."

http://www.echosvoice.com/colorschemes.htm has more information about color
schemes. Although it's written for 2003, the principle still applies in PPT
2007.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


NY Law Firm Trainer said:
Thanks for your response. Have worked out that there are several instances
in
which if colors outside the current Theme are applied, the Color Picker
won't
indicate them. Have now progressed on to these following. We have battled
to
get users to use the abide by the Color Scheme in our 2002 template,
helping
them to see how it uses specific colors for particular elements, e.g. Text
&
Lines, Fills, Accents, etc. Is there any cross reference to the new color
placeholders being just Text/Background Light & Dark 1 & 2, and Accents
1 -
6? It's obvious what Hyperlink and Followed Hyperlink are for, but how do
I
know which of the Accents to use for bullets, or fills? How do I know
which
is the color for Titles as opposed to text?

Echo S said:
Yes, assuming you mean that you can apply a theme color to an object and
then when you look at the color picker, you can't tell what's been
applied.
I think sometimes this happens also when you've selected something from
one
of the QuickStyle Galleries.

Do you have any specific examples? If so, I can try to confirm them here.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx


in
message We are migrating from Office 2002 to Office 2007, and need to migrate
our
PPT
templates over effectively. In PPT 2002, when you refer to the color of
an
element (E.G. Fill for an AutoShape or Font for text), you see which
color
swatch on the Color Scheme palette is current, or the one in use
(unless
its
an RGB setting outside of the standard set of colors.) Several elements
in
presentations based on standard Themes in 2007 seem to be pointing to
no
particular color on the palatte. Is this a known issue?
 

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