The Error message "The server unexpectedly closed the connection"

AndrewS · Jan 15, 2004

Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server unexpectedly closed the
connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload to my site.

In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the background of how the
problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems like a long winded
tale...

In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never very happy with it.
On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor directory corrections and
my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle that I couldn't break
out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade disk to break it.
Then half way through the set up my house suffered a several second power
failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do anything. I was
unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers system recovery disks
would not help me. The next day I purchased the full version of Windows Xp
and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I then backed up
everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring after a reformat of the
primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining to Outlook Express,
my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped out by the reinstall
or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here to anyone reading
this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files such as these AS
WELL AS your data files. You never know when something like this can
happen.

At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard drive and reinstalled
all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked my site and
discovered when the original system crash it also took out parts of my site.
Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs over a dial up
connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours (okay I lied about a
day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept getting plagued by
"Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the connection".

About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed internet in my area and for
obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed internet. I
immediately set about reloading my site. The only problem is the errors
persisted. I would get half way into the upload and bang "The server
unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I am sure it has
something to do with but the time it takes for the message to occur was
getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the point that 5 seconds
after the upload begins the message appears.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going wrong...? I have
contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am. Their only
suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to passive.

Thanks,

Andrew S

..

Stefan B Rusynko · Jan 15, 2004

Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can connect to your web
For Publishing problems see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843

--

"AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server unexpectedly closed the
| connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload to my site.
|
| In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the background of how the
| problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems like a long winded
| tale...
|
| In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never very happy with it.
| On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor directory corrections and
| my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle that I couldn't break
| out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade disk to break it.
| Then half way through the set up my house suffered a several second power
| failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do anything. I was
| unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers system recovery disks
| would not help me. The next day I purchased the full version of Windows Xp
| and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I then backed up
| everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring after a reformat of the
| primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining to Outlook Express,
| my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped out by the reinstall
| or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here to anyone reading
| this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files such as these AS
| WELL AS your data files. You never know when something like this can
| happen.
|
| At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard drive and reinstalled
| all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked my site and
| discovered when the original system crash it also took out parts of my site.
| Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs over a dial up
| connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours (okay I lied about a
| day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept getting plagued by
| "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the connection".
|
| About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed internet in my area and for
| obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed internet. I
| immediately set about reloading my site. The only problem is the errors
| persisted. I would get half way into the upload and bang "The server
| unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I am sure it has
| something to do with but the time it takes for the message to occur was
| getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the point that 5 seconds
| after the upload begins the message appears.
|
| Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going wrong...? I have
| contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am. Their only
| suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to passive.
|
| Thanks,
|
| Andrew S
|
|
| .
|
|
|

AndrewS · Jan 15, 2004

Tried that, and it opens just fine...

Still no success on the upload...

Andrew

Stefan B Rusynko · Jan 15, 2004

Since you have had several failed publish events you may have a corrupt web cache file
- find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
- Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to lengthen the timeout
- BTW are you running any firewall software?

--

"AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
|
| Still no success on the upload...
|
| Andrew
|
| | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can connect to your web
| > For Publishing problems see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server unexpectedly closed
| the
| > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload to my site.
| > |
| > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the background of how the
| > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems like a long winded
| > | tale...
| > |
| > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never very happy with
| it.
| > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor directory corrections
| and
| > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle that I couldn't
| break
| > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade disk to break it.
| > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a several second
| power
| > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do anything. I
| was
| > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers system recovery
| disks
| > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full version of Windows
| Xp
| > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I then backed up
| > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring after a reformat of
| the
| > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining to Outlook
| Express,
| > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped out by the
| reinstall
| > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here to anyone reading
| > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files such as these AS
| > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something like this can
| > | happen.
| > |
| > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard drive and
| reinstalled
| > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked my site and
| > | discovered when the original system crash it also took out parts of my
| site.
| > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs over a dial up
| > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours (okay I lied about
| a
| > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept getting plagued
| by
| > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the connection".
| > |
| > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed internet in my area and
| for
| > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed internet. I
| > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only problem is the errors
| > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and bang "The server
| > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I am sure it has
| > | something to do with but the time it takes for the message to occur was
| > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the point that 5
| seconds
| > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > |
| > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going wrong...? I have
| > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am. Their only
| > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to passive.
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| > |
| > | Andrew S
| > |
| > |
| > | .
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

AndrewS · Jan 16, 2004

Stefan,
Thanks for getting back with some advice...
Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have shown up. I
expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc. But No luck...

I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know there shouldn't be
a server issue..

The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that has never
interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that was in the pre
crash days..

I am debating about asking the server to just delete the entire site and try
uploading it as a new site...
Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if that helps.

Any thoughts???

Andrew

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Since you have had several failed publish events you may have a corrupt web cache file
- find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
- Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to lengthen the timeout
- BTW are you running any firewall software?

--

"AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
|
| Still no success on the upload...
|
| Andrew
|
| | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can connect to your web
| > For Publishing problems see
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server unexpectedly closed
| the
| > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload to my site.
| > |
| > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the background of how the
| > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems like a long winded
| > | tale...
| > |
| > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never very happy with
| it.
| > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor directory corrections
| and
| > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle that I couldn't
| break
| > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade disk to break it.
| > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a several second
| power
| > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do anything. I
| was
| > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers system recovery
| disks
| > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full version of Windows
| Xp
| > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I then backed up
| > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring after a reformat of
| the
| > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining to Outlook
| Express,
| > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped out by the
| reinstall
| > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here to anyone reading
| > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files such as these AS
| > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something like this can
| > | happen.
| > |
| > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard drive and
| reinstalled
| > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked my site and
| > | discovered when the original system crash it also took out parts of my
| site.
| > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs over a dial up
| > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours (okay I lied about
| a
| > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept getting plagued
| by
| > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the connection".
| > |
| > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed internet in my area and
| for
| > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed internet. I
| > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only problem is the errors
| > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and bang "The server
| > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I am sure it has
| > | something to do with but the time it takes for the message to occur was
| > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the point that 5
| seconds
| > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > |
| > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going wrong...? I have
| > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am. Their only
| > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to passive.
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| > |
| > | Andrew S
| > |
| > |
| > | .
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Stefan B Rusynko · Jan 16, 2004

*.web files are system hidden known type files

Norton What - IS ?
--

"AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message | Stefan,
| Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have shown up. I
| expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc. But No luck...
|
| I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know there shouldn't be
| a server issue..
|
| The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that has never
| interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that was in the pre
| crash days..
|
| I am debating about asking the server to just delete the entire site and try
| uploading it as a new site...
| Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if that helps.
|
| Any thoughts???
|
| Andrew
|
| | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may have a corrupt
| web cache file
| > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to lengthen the
| timeout
| > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > |
| > | Still no success on the upload...
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > | | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can connect to your
| web
| > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server unexpectedly
| closed
| > | the
| > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload to my site.
| > | > |
| > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the background of how
| the
| > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems like a long
| winded
| > | > | tale...
| > | > |
| > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never very happy
| with
| > | it.
| > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor directory
| corrections
| > | and
| > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle that I
| couldn't
| > | break
| > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade disk to break
| it.
| > | > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a several second
| > | power
| > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do anything.
| I
| > | was
| > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers system
| recovery
| > | disks
| > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full version of
| Windows
| > | Xp
| > | > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I then backed
| up
| > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring after a
| reformat of
| > | the
| > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining to Outlook
| > | Express,
| > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped out by the
| > | reinstall
| > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here to anyone
| reading
| > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files such as
| these AS
| > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something like this
| can
| > | > | happen.
| > | > |
| > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard drive and
| > | reinstalled
| > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked my site and
| > | > | discovered when the original system crash it also took out parts of
| my
| > | site.
| > | > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs over a dial
| up
| > | > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours (okay I lied
| about
| > | a
| > | > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept getting
| plagued
| > | by
| > | > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the connection".
| > | > |
| > | > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed internet in my area
| and
| > | for
| > | > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed internet. I
| > | > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only problem is the
| errors
| > | > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and bang "The
| server
| > | > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I am sure it
| has
| > | > | something to do with but the time it takes for the message to occur
| was
| > | > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the point that 5
| > | seconds
| > | > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > | > |
| > | > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going wrong...? I have
| > | > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am. Their only
| > | > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to passive.
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks,
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew S
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | .
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

AndrewS · Jan 16, 2004

Sefan,
*.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden system
files.

Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security packages. In
the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.

There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned annoying... I am
wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections.... Perhaps one image
gallery at a time?

Andrew

Stefan B Rusynko said:
*.web files are system hidden known type files

Norton What - IS ?
--

"AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message | Stefan,
| Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have shown up. I
| expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc. But No luck...
|
| I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know there shouldn't be
| a server issue..
|
| The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that has never
| interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that was in the pre
| crash days..
|
| I am debating about asking the server to just delete the entire site and try
| uploading it as a new site...
| Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if that helps.
|
| Any thoughts???
|
| Andrew
|
| | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may have a corrupt
| web cache file
| > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to lengthen the
| timeout
| > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > |
| > | Still no success on the upload...
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > | | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can connect to your
| web
| > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server unexpectedly
| closed
| > | the
| > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload to my site.
| > | > |
| > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the background of how
| the
| > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems like a long
| winded
| > | > | tale...
| > | > |
| > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never very happy
| with
| > | it.
| > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor directory
| corrections
| > | and
| > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle that I
| couldn't
| > | break
| > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade disk to break
| it.
| > | > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a several second
| > | power
| > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do anything.
| I
| > | was
| > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers system
| recovery
| > | disks
| > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full version of
| Windows
| > | Xp
| > | > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I then backed
| up
| > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring after a
| reformat of
| > | the
| > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining to Outlook
| > | Express,
| > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped out by the
| > | reinstall
| > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here to anyone
| reading
| > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files such as
| these AS
| > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something like this
| can
| > | > | happen.
| > | > |
| > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard drive and
| > | reinstalled
| > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked my site and
| > | > | discovered when the original system crash it also took out parts of
| my
| > | site.
| > | > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs over a dial
| up
| > | > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours (okay I lied
| about
| > | a
| > | > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept getting
| plagued
| > | by
| > | > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the connection".
| > | > |
| > | > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed internet in my area
| and
| > | for
| > | > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed internet. I
| > | > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only problem is the
| errors
| > | > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and bang "The
| server
| > | > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I am sure it
| has
| > | > | something to do with but the time it takes for the message to occur
| was
| > | > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the point that 5
| > | seconds
| > | > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > | > |
| > | > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going wrong...? I have
| > | > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am. Their only
| > | > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to passive.
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks,
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew S
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | .
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Stefan B Rusynko · Jan 16, 2004

NIS blocks FP
You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall Program Control

--

"AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message | Sefan,
| *.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden system
| files.
|
| Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security packages. In
| the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
|
| There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned annoying... I am
| wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections.... Perhaps one image
| gallery at a time?
|
| Andrew
|
|
| | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| >
| > Norton What - IS ?
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Stefan,
| > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have shown up. I
| > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc. But No
| luck...
| > |
| > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know there
| shouldn't be
| > | a server issue..
| > |
| > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that has never
| > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that was in the pre
| > | crash days..
| > |
| > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the entire site and
| try
| > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if that helps.
| > |
| > | Any thoughts???
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > | | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may have a
| corrupt
| > | web cache file
| > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to lengthen
| the
| > | timeout
| > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > |
| > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can connect to
| your
| > | web
| > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server unexpectedly
| > | closed
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload to my
| site.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the background of
| how
| > | the
| > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems like a long
| > | winded
| > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never very
| happy
| > | with
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor directory
| > | corrections
| > | > | and
| > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle that I
| > | couldn't
| > | > | break
| > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade disk to
| break
| > | it.
| > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a several
| second
| > | > | power
| > | > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do
| anything.
| > | I
| > | > | was
| > | > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers system
| > | recovery
| > | > | disks
| > | > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full version of
| > | Windows
| > | > | Xp
| > | > | > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I then
| backed
| > | up
| > | > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring after a
| > | reformat of
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining to
| Outlook
| > | > | Express,
| > | > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped out by the
| > | > | reinstall
| > | > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here to anyone
| > | reading
| > | > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files such as
| > | these AS
| > | > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something like
| this
| > | can
| > | > | > | happen.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard drive and
| > | > | reinstalled
| > | > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked my site
| and
| > | > | > | discovered when the original system crash it also took out parts
| of
| > | my
| > | > | site.
| > | > | > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs over a
| dial
| > | up
| > | > | > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours (okay I
| lied
| > | about
| > | > | a
| > | > | > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept getting
| > | plagued
| > | > | by
| > | > | > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the
| connection".
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed internet in my
| area
| > | and
| > | > | for
| > | > | > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed internet.
| I
| > | > | > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only problem is
| the
| > | errors
| > | > | > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and bang "The
| > | server
| > | > | > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I am sure
| it
| > | has
| > | > | > | something to do with but the time it takes for the message to
| occur
| > | was
| > | > | > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the point
| that 5
| > | > | seconds
| > | > | > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going wrong...? I
| have
| > | > | > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am. Their
| only
| > | > | > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to passive.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Thanks,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew S
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | .
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

David Baxter · Jan 17, 2004

That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched servers (long
story).

If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the firewall
disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't Norton, or at least
not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where I am at the
moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with Norton
Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.

Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.

Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is supposed to block?
the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could there be
some sort of answer back or authentication channel being used by the
host that is being blocked?

Stefan B Rusynko said:
NIS blocks FP
You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall Program Control

--

"AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message | Sefan,
| *.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden system
| files.
|
| Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security packages. In
| the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
|
| There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned annoying... I am
| wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections.... Perhaps one image
| gallery at a time?
|
| Andrew
|
|
| | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| >
| > Norton What - IS ?
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Stefan,
| > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have shown up. I
| > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc. But No
| luck...
| > |
| > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know there
| shouldn't be
| > | a server issue..
| > |
| > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that has never
| > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that was in the pre
| > | crash days..
| > |
| > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the entire site and
| try
| > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if that helps.
| > |
| > | Any thoughts???
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > | | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may have a
| corrupt
| > | web cache file
| > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to lengthen
| the
| > | timeout
| > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > |
| > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can connect to
| your
| > | web
| > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server unexpectedly
| > | closed
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload to my
| site.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the background of
| how
| > | the
| > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems like a long
| > | winded
| > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never very
| happy
| > | with
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor directory
| > | corrections
| > | > | and
| > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle that I
| > | couldn't
| > | > | break
| > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade disk to
| break
| > | it.
| > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a several
| second
| > | > | power
| > | > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do
| anything.
| > | I
| > | > | was
| > | > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers system
| > | recovery
| > | > | disks
| > | > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full version of
| > | Windows
| > | > | Xp
| > | > | > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I then
| backed
| > | up
| > | > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring after a
| > | reformat of
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining to
| Outlook
| > | > | Express,
| > | > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped out by the
| > | > | reinstall
| > | > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here to anyone
| > | reading
| > | > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files such as
| > | these AS
| > | > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something like
| this
| > | can
| > | > | > | happen.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard drive and
| > | > | reinstalled
| > | > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked my site
| and
| > | > | > | discovered when the original system crash it also took out parts
| of
| > | my
| > | > | site.
| > | > | > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs over a
| dial
| > | up
| > | > | > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours (okay I
| lied
| > | about
| > | > | a
| > | > | > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept getting
| > | plagued
| > | > | by
| > | > | > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the
| connection".
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed internet in my
| area
| > | and
| > | > | for
| > | > | > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed internet.
| I
| > | > | > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only problem is
| the
| > | errors
| > | > | > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and bang "The
| > | server
| > | > | > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I am sure
| it
| > | has
| > | > | > | something to do with but the time it takes for the message to
| occur
| > | was
| > | > | > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the point
| that 5
| > | > | seconds
| > | > | > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going wrong...? I
| have
| > | > | > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am. Their
| only
| > | > | > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to passive.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Thanks,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew S
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | .
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Stefan B Rusynko · Jan 17, 2004

From the NIS help on NPF program Control
Turn on Automatic Program Control: Creates a new firewall rule for low-risk programs that it recognizes the first time that they are
run. Run LiveUpdate weekly to keep your protection current.
Program Scan: Scans for Internet-enabled programs that it recognizes and lets you choose settings for each program.

--

| That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched servers (long
| story).
|
| If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the firewall
| disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't Norton, or at least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where I am at the
| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is supposed to block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could there be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being used by the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections.... Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc. But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never
| very
| > | happy
| > | > | with
| > | > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor
| directory
| > | > | corrections
| > | > | > | and
| > | > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle
| that I
| > | > | couldn't
| > | > | > | break
| > | > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade
| disk to
| > | break
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a
| several
| > | second
| > | > | > | power
| > | > | > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do
| > | anything.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers
| system
| > | > | recovery
| > | > | > | disks
| > | > | > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full
| version of
| > | > | Windows
| > | > | > | Xp
| > | > | > | > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I
| then
| > | backed
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring
| after a
| > | > | reformat of
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining
| to
| > | Outlook
| > | > | > | Express,
| > | > | > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped
| out by the
| > | > | > | reinstall
| > | > | > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here
| to anyone
| > | > | reading
| > | > | > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files
| such as
| > | > | these AS
| > | > | > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something
| like
| > | this
| > | > | can
| > | > | > | > | happen.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard
| drive and
| > | > | > | reinstalled
| > | > | > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked
| my site
| > | and
| > | > | > | > | discovered when the original system crash it also took
| out parts
| > | of
| > | > | my
| > | > | > | site.
| > | > | > | > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs
| over a
| > | dial
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours
| (okay I
| > | lied
| > | > | about
| > | > | > | a
| > | > | > | > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept
| getting
| > | > | plagued
| > | > | > | by
| > | > | > | > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the
| > | connection".
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed
| internet in my
| > | area
| > | > | and
| > | > | > | for
| > | > | > | > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed
| internet.
| > | I
| > | > | > | > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only
| problem is
| > | the
| > | > | errors
| > | > | > | > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and
| bang "The
| > | > | server
| > | > | > | > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I
| am sure
| > | it
| > | > | has
| > | > | > | > | something to do with but the time it takes for the
| message to
| > | occur
| > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the
| point
| > | that 5
| > | > | > | seconds
| > | > | > | > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going
| wrong...? I
| > | have
| > | > | > | > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am.
| Their
| > | only
| > | > | > | > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to
| passive.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Thanks,
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Andrew S
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | .
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

David Baxter · Jan 17, 2004

Thanks, Stefan, but all that has been done, even including complete
re-installs of FP and the Norton firewall -- no difference. FP is
access-enabled, incoming and outgoing -- that was the default for the
firewall anyway. The IP for the host is in the safe zone -- no
difference.

David

Stefan B Rusynko said:
From the NIS help on NPF program Control
Turn on Automatic Program Control: Creates a new firewall rule for

low-risk programs that it recognizes the first time that they are

run. Run LiveUpdate weekly to keep your protection current.
Program Scan: Scans for Internet-enabled programs that it recognizes

and lets you choose settings for each program.

--

| That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched servers (long
| story).
|
| If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the firewall
| disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't Norton, or at least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where I am at the
| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is supposed to block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could there be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being used by the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections.... Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc. But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never
| very
| > | happy
| > | > | with
| > | > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor
| directory
| > | > | corrections
| > | > | > | and
| > | > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle
| that I
| > | > | couldn't
| > | > | > | break
| > | > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade
| disk to
| > | break
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a
| several
| > | second
| > | > | > | power
| > | > | > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do
| > | anything.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers
| system
| > | > | recovery
| > | > | > | disks
| > | > | > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full
| version of
| > | > | Windows
| > | > | > | Xp
| > | > | > | > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I
| then
| > | backed
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring
| after a
| > | > | reformat of
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining
| to
| > | Outlook
| > | > | > | Express,
| > | > | > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped
| out by the
| > | > | > | reinstall
| > | > | > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here
| to anyone
| > | > | reading
| > | > | > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files
| such as
| > | > | these AS
| > | > | > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something
| like
| > | this
| > | > | can
| > | > | > | > | happen.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard
| drive and
| > | > | > | reinstalled
| > | > | > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked
| my site
| > | and
| > | > | > | > | discovered when the original system crash it also took
| out parts
| > | of
| > | > | my
| > | > | > | site.
| > | > | > | > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs
| over a
| > | dial
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours
| (okay I
| > | lied
| > | > | about
| > | > | > | a
| > | > | > | > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept
| getting
| > | > | plagued
| > | > | > | by
| > | > | > | > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the
| > | connection".
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed
| internet in my
| > | area
| > | > | and
| > | > | > | for
| > | > | > | > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed
| internet.
| > | I
| > | > | > | > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only
| problem is
| > | the
| > | > | errors
| > | > | > | > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and
| bang "The
| > | > | server
| > | > | > | > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I
| am sure
| > | it
| > | > | has
| > | > | > | > | something to do with but the time it takes for the
| message to
| > | occur
| > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the
| point
| > | that 5
| > | > | > | seconds
| > | > | > | > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going
| wrong...? I
| > | have
| > | > | > | > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am.
| Their
| > | only
| > | > | > | > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to
| passive.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Thanks,
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Andrew S
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | .
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

AndrewS · Jan 17, 2004

Stefan,
David has echoed my own experiences with Norton Internet Security.. I am
going to try rebuilding my site from the ground up later tonight in the
hopes that may solve the problems. Granted it is going to take a little
while to rebuild a site that is 344 megs but as I see I have very little
alternative..

Andrew

David Baxter said:
Thanks, Stefan, but all that has been done, even including complete
re-installs of FP and the Norton firewall -- no difference. FP is
access-enabled, incoming and outgoing -- that was the default for the
firewall anyway. The IP for the host is in the safe zone -- no
difference.

David

Stefan B Rusynko said:

From the NIS help on NPF program Control
Turn on Automatic Program Control: Creates a new firewall rule for

Click to expand...

low-risk programs that it recognizes the first time that they are

run. Run LiveUpdate weekly to keep your protection current.
Program Scan: Scans for Internet-enabled programs that it recognizes

Click to expand...

and lets you choose settings for each program.

--

| That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched servers (long
| story).
|
| If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the firewall
| disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't Norton, or at least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where I am at the
| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is supposed to block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could there be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being used by the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections.... Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc. But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never
| very
| > | happy
| > | > | with
| > | > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor
| directory
| > | > | corrections
| > | > | > | and
| > | > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle
| that I
| > | > | couldn't
| > | > | > | break
| > | > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade
| disk to
| > | break
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a
| several
| > | second
| > | > | > | power
| > | > | > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do
| > | anything.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers
| system
| > | > | recovery
| > | > | > | disks
| > | > | > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full
| version of
| > | > | Windows
| > | > | > | Xp
| > | > | > | > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I
| then
| > | backed
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring
| after a
| > | > | reformat of
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining
| to
| > | Outlook
| > | > | > | Express,
| > | > | > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped
| out by the
| > | > | > | reinstall
| > | > | > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here
| to anyone
| > | > | reading
| > | > | > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files
| such as
| > | > | these AS
| > | > | > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something
| like
| > | this
| > | > | can
| > | > | > | > | happen.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard
| drive and
| > | > | > | reinstalled
| > | > | > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked
| my site
| > | and
| > | > | > | > | discovered when the original system crash it also took
| out parts
| > | of
| > | > | my
| > | > | > | site.
| > | > | > | > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs
| over a
| > | dial
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours
| (okay I
| > | lied
| > | > | about
| > | > | > | a
| > | > | > | > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept
| getting
| > | > | plagued
| > | > | > | by
| > | > | > | > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the
| > | connection".
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed
| internet in my
| > | area
| > | > | and
| > | > | > | for
| > | > | > | > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed
| internet.
| > | I
| > | > | > | > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only
| problem is
| > | the
| > | > | errors
| > | > | > | > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and
| bang "The
| > | > | server
| > | > | > | > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I
| am sure
| > | it
| > | > | has
| > | > | > | > | something to do with but the time it takes for the
| message to
| > | occur
| > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the
| point
| > | that 5
| > | > | > | seconds
| > | > | > | > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going
| wrong...? I
| > | have
| > | > | > | > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am.
| Their
| > | only
| > | > | > | > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to
| passive.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Thanks,
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Andrew S
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | .
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

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Thomas A. Rowe · Jan 18, 2004

If you totally un-install Norton, can you connect?

Honestly, I don't see how rebuilding your web site is going to solve this
issue., especially if the issue is your ability to connect to a remote
server.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

AndrewS said:
Stefan,
David has echoed my own experiences with Norton Internet Security.. I am
going to try rebuilding my site from the ground up later tonight in the
hopes that may solve the problems. Granted it is going to take a little
while to rebuild a site that is 344 megs but as I see I have very little
alternative..

Andrew

David Baxter said:

Thanks, Stefan, but all that has been done, even including complete
re-installs of FP and the Norton firewall -- no difference. FP is
access-enabled, incoming and outgoing -- that was the default for the
firewall anyway. The IP for the host is in the safe zone -- no
difference.

David

Stefan B Rusynko said:

From the NIS help on NPF program Control
Turn on Automatic Program Control: Creates a new firewall rule for

Click to expand...

low-risk programs that it recognizes the first time that they are

run. Run LiveUpdate weekly to keep your protection current.
Program Scan: Scans for Internet-enabled programs that it recognizes

Click to expand...

and lets you choose settings for each program.

--

| That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched servers (long
| story).
|
| If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the firewall
| disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't Norton, or at least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where I am at the
| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is supposed to block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could there be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being used by the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections.... Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc. But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was never
| very
| > | happy
| > | > | with
| > | > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor
| directory
| > | > | corrections
| > | > | > | and
| > | > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot cycle
| that I
| > | > | couldn't
| > | > | > | break
| > | > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP upgrade
| disk to
| > | break
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a
| several
| > | second
| > | > | > | power
| > | > | > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and couldn't do
| > | anything.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original computers
| system
| > | > | recovery
| > | > | > | disks
| > | > | > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the full
| version of
| > | > | Windows
| > | > | > | Xp
| > | > | > | > | and installed it as second operating system on my Pc. I
| then
| > | backed
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring
| after a
| > | > | reformat of
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files pertaining
| to
| > | Outlook
| > | > | > | Express,
| > | > | > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either wiped
| out by the
| > | > | > | reinstall
| > | > | > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip here
| to anyone
| > | > | reading
| > | > | > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important files
| such as
| > | > | these AS
| > | > | > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when something
| like
| > | this
| > | > | can
| > | > | > | > | happen.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard
| drive and
| > | > | > | reinstalled
| > | > | > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then checked
| my site
| > | and
| > | > | > | > | discovered when the original system crash it also took
| out parts
| > | of
| > | > | my
| > | > | > | site.
| > | > | > | > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+ megs
| over a
| > | dial
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few hours
| (okay I
| > | lied
| > | > | about
| > | > | > | a
| > | > | > | > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I kept
| getting
| > | > | plagued
| > | > | > | by
| > | > | > | > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed the
| > | connection".
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed
| internet in my
| > | area
| > | > | and
| > | > | > | for
| > | > | > | > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high speed
| internet.
| > | I
| > | > | > | > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only
| problem is
| > | the
| > | > | errors
| > | > | > | > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and
| bang "The
| > | > | server
| > | > | > | > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up. I
| am sure
| > | it
| > | > | has
| > | > | > | > | something to do with but the time it takes for the
| message to
| > | occur
| > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to the
| point
| > | that 5
| > | > | > | seconds
| > | > | > | > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going
| wrong...? I
| > | have
| > | > | > | > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I am.
| Their
| > | only
| > | > | > | > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to
| passive.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Thanks,
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Andrew S
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | .
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

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AndrewS · Jan 18, 2004

Thomas,
What I am wondering is if I tried doing it in stages... IT is becoming
pretty clear to me that somewhere in the chain there is a limitation on how
much I can upload at one time. My provider says there is no limitation, and
my server says the same thing. When I set FrontPage to replace the pages I
can get about 2/3 the way through the upload before that infuriating message
appears "The server unexpectedly closed the connections". My site is 344
megs in size and perhaps by uploading it in stages, well this might resolve
the problem... I will try creating a dummy page in a separate new web and
upload it that way and if it works we have a confirmation that it is an
upload issue.

Andrew

Thomas A. Rowe said:
If you totally un-install Norton, can you connect?

Honestly, I don't see how rebuilding your web site is going to solve this
issue., especially if the issue is your ability to connect to a remote
server.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

AndrewS said:

Stefan,
David has echoed my own experiences with Norton Internet Security.. I am
going to try rebuilding my site from the ground up later tonight in the
hopes that may solve the problems. Granted it is going to take a little
while to rebuild a site that is 344 megs but as I see I have very little
alternative..

Andrew

David Baxter said:

Thanks, Stefan, but all that has been done, even including complete
re-installs of FP and the Norton firewall -- no difference. FP is
access-enabled, incoming and outgoing -- that was the default for the
firewall anyway. The IP for the host is in the safe zone -- no
difference.

David

From the NIS help on NPF program Control
Turn on Automatic Program Control: Creates a new firewall rule for
low-risk programs that it recognizes the first time that they are
run. Run LiveUpdate weekly to keep your protection current.
Program Scan: Scans for Internet-enabled programs that it recognizes
and lets you choose settings for each program.

--

| That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched servers (long
| story).
|
| If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the firewall
| disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't Norton, or at
least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where I am at the
| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is supposed to
block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could there
be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being used by the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall
Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned
annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections....
Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc.
But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know
there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that
has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that
was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the
entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if
that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may
have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host
to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to
upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was
never
| very
| > | happy
| > | > | with
| > | > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor
| directory
| > | > | corrections
| > | > | > | and
| > | > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot
cycle
| that I
| > | > | couldn't
| > | > | > | break
| > | > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP
upgrade
| disk to
| > | break
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house suffered a
| several
| > | second
| > | > | > | power
| > | > | > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and
couldn't do
| > | anything.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original
computers
| system
| > | > | recovery
| > | > | > | disks
| > | > | > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased the
full
| version of
| > | > | Windows
| > | > | > | Xp
| > | > | > | > | and installed it as second operating system on my
Pc. I
| then
| > | backed
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of restoring
| after a
| > | > | reformat of
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files
pertaining
| to
| > | Outlook
| > | > | > | Express,
| > | > | > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where either
wiped
| out by the
| > | > | > | reinstall
| > | > | > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little tip
here
| to anyone
| > | > | reading
| > | > | > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up important
files
| such as
| > | > | these AS
| > | > | > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when
something
| like
| > | this
| > | > | can
| > | > | > | > | happen.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted the hard
| drive and
| > | > | > | reinstalled
| > | > | > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website. I then
checked
| my site
| > | and
| > | > | > | > | discovered when the original system crash it also
took
| out parts
| > | of
| > | > | my
| > | > | > | site.
| > | > | > | > | Fine so I decided to reload the entire site of 300+
megs
| over a
| > | dial
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | connection. Realizing that it would take a few
hours
| (okay I
| > | lied
| > | > | about
| > | > | > | a
| > | > | > | > | day and half) I let it run. The only problem was I
kept
| getting
| > | > | plagued
| > | > | > | by
| > | > | > | > | "Parse Errors" and "The server unexpectedly closed
the
| > | connection".
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | About 5 days ago Comcast was offering high speed
| internet in my
| > | area
| > | > | and
| > | > | > | for
| > | > | > | > | obvious reasons I jumped at it and now have high
speed
| internet.
| > | I
| > | > | > | > | immediately set about reloading my site. The only
| problem is
| > | the
| > | > | errors
| > | > | > | > | persisted. I would get half way into the upload and
| bang "The
| > | > | server
| > | > | > | > | unexpectedly closed the connection" message pops up.
I
| am sure
| > | it
| > | > | has
| > | > | > | > | something to do with but the time it takes for the
| message to
| > | occur
| > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | getting progressively less and less. Now it is to
the
| point
| > | that 5
| > | > | > | seconds
| > | > | > | > | after the upload begins the message appears.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Can anyone offer any suggestions for what's going
| wrong...? I
| > | have
| > | > | > | > | contacted the server and they are as mystified as I
am.
| Their
| > | only
| > | > | > | > | suggestion is for me to change my ftp settings to
| passive.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Thanks,
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Andrew S
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | .
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

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Thomas A. Rowe · Jan 18, 2004

For a site of that size, you should break it into subwebs.

Also content (files) that is mainly on the site for download or photos call
via a server-side application, should be in a subweb, and can then be safely
uploaded via FTP.

--

==============================================
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WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

AndrewS said:
Thomas,
What I am wondering is if I tried doing it in stages... IT is becoming
pretty clear to me that somewhere in the chain there is a limitation on how
much I can upload at one time. My provider says there is no limitation, and
my server says the same thing. When I set FrontPage to replace the pages I
can get about 2/3 the way through the upload before that infuriating message
appears "The server unexpectedly closed the connections". My site is 344
megs in size and perhaps by uploading it in stages, well this might resolve
the problem... I will try creating a dummy page in a separate new web and
upload it that way and if it works we have a confirmation that it is an
upload issue.

Andrew

Thomas A. Rowe said:

If you totally un-install Norton, can you connect?

Honestly, I don't see how rebuilding your web site is going to solve this
issue., especially if the issue is your ability to connect to a remote
server.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp

AndrewS said:

Stefan,
David has echoed my own experiences with Norton Internet Security.. I am
going to try rebuilding my site from the ground up later tonight in the
hopes that may solve the problems. Granted it is going to take a little
while to rebuild a site that is 344 megs but as I see I have very little
alternative..

Andrew

Thanks, Stefan, but all that has been done, even including complete
re-installs of FP and the Norton firewall -- no difference. FP is
access-enabled, incoming and outgoing -- that was the default for the
firewall anyway. The IP for the host is in the safe zone -- no
difference.

David

From the NIS help on NPF program Control
Turn on Automatic Program Control: Creates a new firewall rule for
low-risk programs that it recognizes the first time that they are
run. Run LiveUpdate weekly to keep your protection current.
Program Scan: Scans for Internet-enabled programs that it recognizes
and lets you choose settings for each program.

--

| That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched servers (long
| story).
|
| If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the firewall
| disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't Norton, or at
least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where I am at the
| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is supposed to
block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could there
be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being used by the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall
Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned
annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections....
Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc.
But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know
there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and that
has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that
was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the
entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if
that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may
have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host
to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to
upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I was
never
| very
| > | happy
| > | > | with
| > | > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some minor
| directory
| > | > | corrections
| > | > | > | and
| > | > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous reboot
cycle
| that I
| > | > | couldn't
| > | > | > | break
| > | > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows XP
upgrade
| disk to
| > | break
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house

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AndrewS · Jan 18, 2004

Okay now you have me... Subwebs???
I have heard the phrase before but never explored it. Care to point me in
a direction that I could learn more about them? and perhaps elaborate a
little on a "via a server-side application"?

For whatever its' worth my site www.photogshangar.com is about aviation
photography and it's a collection of several hundred images divided into a
number of galleries. The average image size is about 100 to 150k and they
are displayed on each page with a thumbnail linked to the image.

For whatever it's worth I really do appreciate the endeavors on the part of
you guys at Ms in helping me get this problem resolved... I just wish I
could get my damned site going again.

Andrew

Thomas A. Rowe said:
For a site of that size, you should break it into subwebs.

Also content (files) that is mainly on the site for download or photos call
via a server-side application, should be in a subweb, and can then be safely
uploaded via FTP.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

AndrewS said:

Thomas,
What I am wondering is if I tried doing it in stages... IT is becoming
pretty clear to me that somewhere in the chain there is a limitation on how
much I can upload at one time. My provider says there is no limitation, and
my server says the same thing. When I set FrontPage to replace the

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pages

I
can get about 2/3 the way through the upload before that infuriating message
appears "The server unexpectedly closed the connections". My site is 344
megs in size and perhaps by uploading it in stages, well this might resolve
the problem... I will try creating a dummy page in a separate new web and
upload it that way and if it works we have a confirmation that it is an
upload issue.

Andrew

I
am

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or

at

least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where I am

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at
the

| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is supposed to
block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could there
be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being used

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by
the

| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall
Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned
annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections....
Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the Pc.
But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know
there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's

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and
that

has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that
was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the
entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and see if
that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you may
have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your host
to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break

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anything!"
(-;

| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure

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you
can

| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to
upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and I

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was suffered the
hard was upload
and pops
up.

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to as

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Thomas A. Rowe · Jan 18, 2004

Andrew S

Subwebs are complete and independent webs under a root or another subweb and
require that the server has the FP extensions and that you are publishing
via FP's http mode. The can be published independently of the web they are
located under. You just need to check with your host to make sure your
account allows for the creation of subwebs.

To create subwebs, just right click on a folder, then select convert to web,
do not delete the _private folder or the images folder that FP creates, even
if you don't plan to use them.

Since you site is mainly photographs, then subwebs would be excellent way to
manage your content, and may solve your current publishing problems, as you
would only need to publish the content that has changes, which could just be
the root web or an individual subweb.

The part about a server-side application would apply if you used a database
to store info about your photos, and a link to the images.

BTW: MVPs are not Microsoft Employees.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

AndrewS said:
Okay now you have me... Subwebs???
I have heard the phrase before but never explored it. Care to point me in
a direction that I could learn more about them? and perhaps elaborate a
little on a "via a server-side application"?

For whatever its' worth my site www.photogshangar.com is about aviation
photography and it's a collection of several hundred images divided into a
number of galleries. The average image size is about 100 to 150k and they
are displayed on each page with a thumbnail linked to the image.

For whatever it's worth I really do appreciate the endeavors on the part of
you guys at Ms in helping me get this problem resolved... I just wish I
could get my damned site going again.

Andrew

Thomas A. Rowe said:

For a site of that size, you should break it into subwebs.

Also content (files) that is mainly on the site for download or photos call
via a server-side application, should be in a subweb, and can then be safely
uploaded via FTP.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp

on
how limitation,
and pages web
and

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Security..

I in
the for
the or

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am

at

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supposed

to

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used

by

the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall
Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display
hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned
annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections....
Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none
have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of

Click to expand...

the
Pc.

But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I know
there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's and
that
has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course that
was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete the
entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and

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see

if

that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
message
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events

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you
may

have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your
host
to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure you
can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support
see:
| > | > | > | >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The
server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try to
upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here

Click to expand...

is
the

| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this
seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem and

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I

on
my little
tip problem
was The
only for
the is mystified
as settings
to

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AndrewS · Jan 18, 2004

Thomas,
Okay then I will check with my server and see if they support them. I will
also engage in a little bit of research to learn more about this area as it
is an area that my knowledge to be kind is rather limited. No matter how
you cut it though that damned system crash is proving to be hell of a lot to
work to recover from, I am supposed to be out shooting not sorting out this
crap. I have already spent $300, and foregone three planned day photo trips
because of it.

In the meantime this idea of data base is intriguing another area I will
have to learn more about.... I am wondering if there isn't some service I
subscribe to that manages my site... Oh well as it's only a hobby any such
service would likely be prohibitively expensive.

I don't care if your MS Employees or the tooth fairies second cousin, your
attempts at helping me to resolve this problem are greatly appreciated and I
thank you very much.

In the meantime let me send the server an E-mail asking their thoughts,

Andrew

Thomas A. Rowe said:
Andrew S

Subwebs are complete and independent webs under a root or another subweb and
require that the server has the FP extensions and that you are publishing
via FP's http mode. The can be published independently of the web they are
located under. You just need to check with your host to make sure your
account allows for the creation of subwebs.

To create subwebs, just right click on a folder, then select convert to web,
do not delete the _private folder or the images folder that FP creates, even
if you don't plan to use them.

Since you site is mainly photographs, then subwebs would be excellent way to
manage your content, and may solve your current publishing problems, as you
would only need to publish the content that has changes, which could just be
the root web or an individual subweb.

The part about a server-side application would apply if you used a database
to store info about your photos, and a link to the images.

BTW: MVPs are not Microsoft Employees.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

AndrewS said:

Okay now you have me... Subwebs???
I have heard the phrase before but never explored it. Care to point me in
a direction that I could learn more about them? and perhaps elaborate a
little on a "via a server-side application"?

For whatever its' worth my site www.photogshangar.com is about aviation
photography and it's a collection of several hundred images divided into a
number of galleries. The average image size is about 100 to 150k and they
are displayed on each page with a thumbnail linked to the image.

For whatever it's worth I really do appreciate the endeavors on the part of
you guys at Ms in helping me get this problem resolved... I just wish I
could get my damned site going again.

Andrew

Thomas A. Rowe said:

For a site of that size, you should break it into subwebs.

Also content (files) that is mainly on the site for download or photos call
via a server-side application, should be in a subweb, and can then be safely
uploaded via FTP.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp

"AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
Thomas,
What I am wondering is if I tried doing it in stages... IT is becoming
pretty clear to me that somewhere in the chain there is a limitation on
how
much I can upload at one time. My provider says there is no limitation,
and
my server says the same thing. When I set FrontPage to replace the pages
I
can get about 2/3 the way through the upload before that infuriating
message
appears "The server unexpectedly closed the connections". My site

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is
344

megs in size and perhaps by uploading it in stages, well this might
resolve
the problem... I will try creating a dummy page in a separate new web
and
upload it that way and if it works we have a confirmation that it is an
upload issue.

Andrew

If you totally un-install Norton, can you connect?

Honestly, I don't see how rebuilding your web site is going to solve
this
issue., especially if the issue is your ability to connect to a remote
server.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp

"AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
Stefan,
David has echoed my own experiences with Norton Internet

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Security..

I
am
going to try rebuilding my site from the ground up later tonight in
the
hopes that may solve the problems. Granted it is going to take a
little
while to rebuild a site that is 344 megs but as I see I have very
little
alternative..

Andrew

Thanks, Stefan, but all that has been done, even including complete
re-installs of FP and the Norton firewall -- no difference. FP is
access-enabled, incoming and outgoing -- that was the default for
the
firewall anyway. The IP for the host is in the safe zone -- no
difference.

David

From the NIS help on NPF program Control
Turn on Automatic Program Control: Creates a new firewall

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rule
for

low-risk programs that it recognizes the first time that they are
run. Run LiveUpdate weekly to keep your protection current.
Program Scan: Scans for Internet-enabled programs that it
recognizes
and lets you choose settings for each program.

--

| That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched servers
(long
| story).
|
| If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the
firewall
| disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't

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Norton,
or

at
least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where I

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am

at
the
| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with
Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is

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supposed

to
block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could
there
be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being

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used

by
the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall
Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display
hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned
annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections....
Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break

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anything!"
(-;

| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files none
have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of the
Pc.
But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far as I
know
there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is

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Norton's
and

that
has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course
that
was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just

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delete
the

entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and

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see

if
that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
message
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events you
may
have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask your
host
to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Stefan B Rusynko" <[email protected]>

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wrote
in

message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make

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sure
you

can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support
see:
| > | > | > | >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The
server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I

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try
to

upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here is
the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if this
seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem

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Click to expand...

and

I purchased
the

Click to expand...

system

on reformatted
the

Click to expand...

site

of a
few have
high message
pops it
is

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Thomas A. Rowe · Jan 18, 2004

Andrew,

Also while you are checking, see what server-side scripting language and
database they support as well.

It not that you need a service to manage your site, but you need a site that
is easy to manage, and that is where a database may be the solution.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

AndrewS said:
Thomas,
Okay then I will check with my server and see if they support them. I will
also engage in a little bit of research to learn more about this area as it
is an area that my knowledge to be kind is rather limited. No matter how
you cut it though that damned system crash is proving to be hell of a lot to
work to recover from, I am supposed to be out shooting not sorting out this
crap. I have already spent $300, and foregone three planned day photo trips
because of it.

In the meantime this idea of data base is intriguing another area I will
have to learn more about.... I am wondering if there isn't some service I
subscribe to that manages my site... Oh well as it's only a hobby any such
service would likely be prohibitively expensive.

I don't care if your MS Employees or the tooth fairies second cousin, your
attempts at helping me to resolve this problem are greatly appreciated and I
thank you very much.

In the meantime let me send the server an E-mail asking their thoughts,

Andrew

Thomas A. Rowe said:

Andrew S

Subwebs are complete and independent webs under a root or another subweb and
require that the server has the FP extensions and that you are publishing
via FP's http mode. The can be published independently of the web they are
located under. You just need to check with your host to make sure your
account allows for the creation of subwebs.

To create subwebs, just right click on a folder, then select convert to web,
do not delete the _private folder or the images folder that FP creates, even
if you don't plan to use them.

Since you site is mainly photographs, then subwebs would be excellent

Click to expand...

way

to
manage your content, and may solve your current publishing problems, as you
would only need to publish the content that has changes, which could

Click to expand...

just

be
the root web or an individual subweb.

The part about a server-side application would apply if you used a database
to store info about your photos, and a link to the images.

BTW: MVPs are not Microsoft Employees.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp

me
in

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into

a part
of limitation
on

Click to expand...

site

is new
web is
an tonight
in

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take

a

little
while to rebuild a site that is 344 megs but as I see I have very
little
alternative..

Andrew

Thanks, Stefan, but all that has been done, even including
complete
re-installs of FP and the Norton firewall -- no difference.

Click to expand...

FP
is

access-enabled, incoming and outgoing -- that was the

Click to expand...

default
for

the
firewall anyway. The IP for the host is in the safe zone -- no
difference.

David

From the NIS help on NPF program Control
Turn on Automatic Program Control: Creates a new firewall rule
for
low-risk programs that it recognizes the first time that

Click to expand...

they
are

run. Run LiveUpdate weekly to keep your protection current.
Program Scan: Scans for Internet-enabled programs that it
recognizes
and lets you choose settings for each program.

--

| That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched servers
(long
| story).
|
| If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the
firewall
| disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't Norton,
or
at
least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly where

Click to expand...

I
am

at
the
| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with
Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a less than
| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is supposed
to
block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default - could
there
be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being used
by
the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal Firewall
Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display
hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and
security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned
annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections....
Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
message
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
(-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web

Click to expand...

files
none

have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search

Click to expand...

of
the

Pc.
But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As far

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

as

I

know
there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's
and
that
has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course
that
was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete
the
entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004

Click to expand...

and
see

if
that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
message
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish

Click to expand...

events
you

may
have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows
Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate
hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server

Click to expand...

ask
your

host
to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support
see:
| > | > | >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
in
message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to make sure
you
can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support
see:
| > | > | > | >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in
message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the message "The
server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever I try
to
upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem

Click to expand...

here
is

the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all

Click to expand...

if
this

seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new modem

Click to expand...

and

I

was
never
| very
| > | happy
| > | > | with
| > | > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some
minor
| directory
| > | > | corrections
| > | > | > | and
| > | > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous
reboot
cycle
| that I
| > | > | couldn't
| > | > | > | break
| > | > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the

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Windows
XP

upgrade
| disk to
| > | break
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house
suffered
a
| several
| > | second
| > | > | > | power
| > | > | > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the water and
couldn't do
| > | anything.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original
computers
| system
| > | > | recovery
| > | > | > | disks
| > | > | > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased
the
full
| version of
| > | > | Windows
| > | > | > | Xp
| > | > | > | > | and installed it as second operating

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system

on
my
Pc. I
| then
| > | backed
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the hopes of
restoring
| after a
| > | > | reformat of
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | primary hard disk. Unfortutanly those files
pertaining
| to
| > | Outlook
| > | > | > | Express,
| > | > | > | > | my address book, and the newsgroup where
either
wiped
| out by the
| > | > | > | reinstall
| > | > | > | > | or where corrupt and unrecoverable. A little
tip
here
| to anyone
| > | > | reading
| > | > | > | > | this sorry tale. ALWAYS ALWAYS back up
important
files
| such as
| > | > | these AS
| > | > | > | > | WELL AS your data files. You never know when
something
| like
| > | this
| > | > | can
| > | > | > | > | happen.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | At any rate a couple days later reformatted
the
hard
| drive and
| > | > | > | reinstalled
| > | > | > | > | all the software INCLUDING my website.

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I
then

checked
| my site
| > | and
| > | > | > | > | discovered when the original system

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crash

it site

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take

a takes
for

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Now

it

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AndrewS · Jan 18, 2004

Okay then Thomas you have my interest...
Currently my process after a photo adventure or sorting of images is to edit
them first in Adobe, and then copyright and scale them down with MS Picture
It! 2.0 (old version I know but I like it and it does a nice job). Then
access FP 2002 insert the image into the appropriate gallery, and then auto
thumbnail the images. Sometimes it may require a new gallery, such as one
that I was hoping to have up and running by now Titled "Air Show Armor".
Other times I will just add to a collection of images in an existing gallery
such as "P51 Cripes Almighty" or "Pan AM Clipper Udvar-Hazy Center". Then I
simply thumbnail the image, save to the appropriate directory and upload the
changed pages.

I am in at composing an E-mail asking their thoughts about sub-webs and I
will ask them data base support...

Short term though it is becoming pretty obvious I will have to ask them to
clean out my site and start off fresh with a new one (Oh joy)..

Andrew

Thomas A. Rowe said:
Andrew,

Also while you are checking, see what server-side scripting language and
database they support as well.

It not that you need a service to manage your site, but you need a site that
is easy to manage, and that is where a database may be the solution.

--

==============================================
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WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

AndrewS said:

Thomas,
Okay then I will check with my server and see if they support them. I will
also engage in a little bit of research to learn more about this area as it
is an area that my knowledge to be kind is rather limited. No matter how
you cut it though that damned system crash is proving to be hell of a

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lot

to
work to recover from, I am supposed to be out shooting not sorting out this
crap. I have already spent $300, and foregone three planned day photo trips
because of it.

In the meantime this idea of data base is intriguing another area I will
have to learn more about.... I am wondering if there isn't some service I
subscribe to that manages my site... Oh well as it's only a hobby any such
service would likely be prohibitively expensive.

I don't care if your MS Employees or the tooth fairies second cousin, your
attempts at helping me to resolve this problem are greatly appreciated

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and

I
thank you very much.

In the meantime let me send the server an E-mail asking their thoughts,

Andrew

subweb
and to
web, creates,
even way as
you just

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point

me

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elaborate

a into and
they

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wish

I site

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it

is support
see: take

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difference.

FP

is
access-enabled, incoming and outgoing -- that was the default
for
the
firewall anyway. The IP for the host is in the safe

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zone --
no

difference.

David

From the NIS help on NPF program Control
Turn on Automatic Program Control: Creates a new

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firewall
rule

for
low-risk programs that it recognizes the first time that they
are
run. Run LiveUpdate weekly to keep your protection current.
Program Scan: Scans for Internet-enabled programs that it
recognizes
and lets you choose settings for each program.

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
_____________________________________________

| That may not work - it hasn't for me since I switched
servers
(long
| story).
|
| If it IS the firewall, try a normal http publish with the
firewall
| disabled - if that does NOT work, your problem isn't Norton,
or
at
least
| not the firewall. If it DOES work, you are exactly

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where

I

am
at
the
| moment. I too have never had a problem with conflicts with
Norton
| Personal Firewall, not even with FP2002 until I changed
hosts.
|
| Still working on the problem but at least I have a

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less
than

| satisfactory workaround to keep my site updated.
|
| Anyone know exactly what FrontPage needs that NPF is
supposed
to
block?
| the standard FTP and HTTP ports are enabled by default -
could
there
be
| some sort of answer back or authentication channel being
used
by
the
| host that is being blocked?
|
|
| | > NIS blocks FP
| > You need to set it to permit FP under your Personal
Firewall
Program
| Control
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break

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anything!"
(-;

| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| | > | Sefan,
| > | *.web files should appear as my system is set to display
hidden
| system
| > | files.
| > |
| > | Norton refers to the Symantec suite of utility and
security
| packages. In
| > | the case I am referring to Norton Internet Security.
| > |
| > | There has to be an answer to this problem as it's damned
annoying...
| I am
| > | wondering if I tried uploading the site in sections....
Perhaps
| one image
| > | gallery at a time?
| > |
| > | Andrew
| > |
| > |
message
| > | | > | > *.web files are system hidden known type files
| > | >
| > | > Norton What - IS ?
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"
(-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | | > | > | Stefan,
| > | > | Thanks for getting back with some advice...
| > | > | Unfortunately after doing a search for .web files
none
have
| shown up. I
| > | > | expanded the search outward to a global search of
the
Pc.
But
| No
| > | luck...
| > | > |
| > | > | I haven't tried doing a test page yet.. As

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far

as

I
know
there
| > | shouldn't be
| > | > | a server issue..
| > | > |
| > | > | The only firewall software I am running is Norton's
and
that
has
| never
| > | > | interfered with my abilities in the past. OF course
that
was in
| the pre
| > | > | crash days..
| > | > |
| > | > | I am debating about asking the server to just delete
the
entire
| site and
| > | try
| > | > | uploading it as a new site...
| > | > | Another idea is to buy the upgrade to FP 2004 and
see
if
that
| helps.
| > | > |
| > | > | Any thoughts???
| > | > |
| > | > | Andrew
| > | > |
| > | > | "Stefan B Rusynko" <[email protected]>

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wrote
in

message
| > | > | | > | > | > Since you have had several failed publish events
you
may
have
| a
| > | corrupt
| > | > | web cache file
| > | > | > - find and delete all *.web files in Windows
Explorer
| > | > | > - Open your site & run a Tools recalculate
hyperlinks
| > | > | > Also since you are timing out on the server ask
your
host
to
| lengthen
| > | the
| > | > | timeout
| > | > | > - BTW are you running any firewall software?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support
see:
| > | > | >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in message
| > | > | | > | > | > | Tried that, and it opens just fine...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Still no success on the upload...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Andrew
| > | > | > |
in
message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Try opening your online web in FP to

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make
sure

you
can
| connect to
| > | your
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | > For Publishing problems see
| > | > | > | >
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324843
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP -
FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break
anything!"
(-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage
support
see:
| > | > | > | >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "AndrewS" <Death-To-Spamers.com> wrote in
message
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hello I am being plagued by the

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message
"The

server
| unexpectedly
| > | > | closed
| > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | connection" in FrontPage 2002 whenever

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I
try

to
upload
| to my
| > | site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In the hopes of resolving the problem here
is
the
| background of
| > | how
| > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | problem developed; my apologies to all if
this
seems
| like a long
| > | > | winded
| > | > | > | > | tale...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | In December 2003 I purchased a new

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modem
and

I

was
never
| very
| > | happy
| > | > | with
| > | > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | On January 04/04 when I was uploading some
minor
| directory
| > | > | corrections
| > | > | > | and
| > | > | > | > | my system suddenly went into a continuous
reboot
cycle
| that I
| > | > | couldn't
| > | > | > | break
| > | > | > | > | out of. In desperation I used the Windows
XP
upgrade
| disk to
| > | break
| > | > | it.
| > | > | > | > | Then half way through the set up my house
suffered
a
| several
| > | second
| > | > | > | power
| > | > | > | > | failure and bang I was dead in the

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water
and

couldn't do
| > | anything.
| > | > | I
| > | > | > | was
| > | > | > | > | unable to boot up to XP and even my original
computers
| system
| > | > | recovery
| > | > | > | disks
| > | > | > | > | would not help me. The next day I purchased
the
full
| version of
| > | > | Windows
| > | > | > | Xp
| > | > | > | > | and installed it as second operating system
on
my
Pc. I
| then
| > | backed
| > | > | up
| > | > | > | > | everything I could to a Cd in the

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