Task Scheduler Not Running

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Peter Crickman

I am running XP Home SP1 on a new Dell 4600. I have McAfee VirusScan
running on it. The scheduled virus definition updates appear to be checked
periodically by McAfee using the Task Scheduler and that task runs fine.
When I try to setup a weekly virus scan using my account and password, the
task never runs. Likewise when I go through the Add Task Wizard to add a
disk cleanup task or use the at command to manually add the cleanup task,
they never run. I have tried stopping and starting the scheduler to no
avail. The scheduler log shows no entries for either the McAfee weekly scan
or my Disk Cleanup task only the automatic virus update check. Ideally I
would like to run my machine without a password since I have an older Dell
4500 running XP Home (without SP1) and it runs the Disk Cleanup just fine
(no account password). I have used Kelly's registry edit to disable the
"limitblankpassworduse" on both machines.

What is involved in getting the Scheduler to run on the SP1 machine?

Thanks for any help,
Peter
 
P

Peter Crickman

Wes,

As I stated in my original posting, the tweak from Kelly's site worked (to
allow task scheduling without account passwords) for a machine without SP1
but not one that has the SP1 installed. At least that is my experience.

Any others?

Peter

Peter;

Look here:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Scroll down to:
67. Run Scheduled Tasks w/o PW Home
 
W

Wesley Vogel

P

Peter Crickman

Wes,

Thanks for your reply. I have tried using the Task Scheduler when my
account has a password and without and get the same result. The McAfee
tasks are scheduled by McAfee itself, but the weekly scan never runs. Their
support staff suggested applying a password to the account, but that has not
fixed the problem. Is there any method to refresh the Task Scheduler
without reloading XP?

Peter
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Peter;

See if this helps. You may be able to see if Schedule Tasks is working.
schtasks.exe = Schedule Tasks

Start | Run | Type: cmd | OK |
When Command Prompt opens |
Type: schtasks.exe /? | ENTER
Try some of the commands.
========

schedsvc.dll = Task Scheduler Engine
This command will try to register schedsvc.dll

Start | Run | Type:

regsvr32 schedsvc.dll

OK

There should be a popup message telling sucess or failure for
whatever reason.
 
P

Peter Crickman

Wes,

Two problems when trying to use your suggestions.

1) I did not find schtasks.exe on my PC anywhere - did a full C: drive
search.
2) When I tried to register schedsvc.dll, I got an error message that stated
"Schedsvc.dll was loaded, but the DLLRegisterServer entry point was not
found. This file can not be registered.".

Does this message mean that the version of the task scheduler on my PC is
corrupt?

Peter
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Peter;

1) Interesting. I can't find schtasks.exe or schtasks.ex_ on either of my
Home or Pro CDs.
The underscore _ denotes that this is a compressed file.
schtasks.exe is on my machine @ C:\WINDOWS\system32
It should be part of both Home and Pro. Hmm..............


2) I have an MS KB Article that says:
[[Dllname was loaded, but the DllRegisterServer or DllUnregisterServer entry
point was not found.
Dllname is not a .dll or .ocx file. For example, typing regsvr32 wjview.exe
generates this error message.]]

This does us no good at all.
I checked another source and it says [[schedsvc.dll DLLSelfRegister: No]]
That may have something to do with trying to register it.
============

Try this:

Start | Run | Type: sfc /scannow |OK
Have your XP CD ready to stick in your CD drive
Reboot when done.

This offers some explanation for the command above.
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

===========

If that doesn't work, we can try to expand SCHEDSVC.DL_
from your XP CD.
==========

Just curious. Schedule Calculator to run in five
minutes, set for One time only, does it open??
 
P

Peter Crickman

Wes,

Thanks for "hanging" in there w/ me to try and resolve this problem. I have
a copy of the DLL in the C:\I386 folder which Dell made available from the
initial Win XP install. When I tried to fire off the calculator with a
Scheduled Task, nothing happened. No msg in the scheduler log either. I
will try the sfc later this week and post the results here. The registry
settings for the Setup is already pointing to the C: drive, so maybe it
won't ask for the CD.

Peter


Wesley Vogel said:
Peter;

1) Interesting. I can't find schtasks.exe or schtasks.ex_ on either of my
Home or Pro CDs.
The underscore _ denotes that this is a compressed file.
schtasks.exe is on my machine @ C:\WINDOWS\system32
It should be part of both Home and Pro. Hmm..............


2) I have an MS KB Article that says:
[[Dllname was loaded, but the DllRegisterServer or DllUnregisterServer entry
point was not found.
Dllname is not a .dll or .ocx file. For example, typing regsvr32 wjview.exe
generates this error message.]]

This does us no good at all.
I checked another source and it says [[schedsvc.dll DLLSelfRegister: No]]
That may have something to do with trying to register it.
============

Try this:

Start | Run | Type: sfc /scannow |OK
Have your XP CD ready to stick in your CD drive
Reboot when done.

This offers some explanation for the command above.
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

===========

If that doesn't work, we can try to expand SCHEDSVC.DL_
from your XP CD.
==========

Just curious. Schedule Calculator to run in five
minutes, set for One time only, does it open??

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

Two problems when trying to use your suggestions.

1) I did not find schtasks.exe on my PC anywhere - did a full C: drive
search.
2) When I tried to register schedsvc.dll, I got an error message that
stated "Schedsvc.dll was loaded, but the DLLRegisterServer entry
point was not found. This file can not be registered.".

Does this message mean that the version of the task scheduler on my
PC is corrupt?

Peter
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Peter;

Yeah, if you do not have a real XP CD, Dell probably installed an i386 file.
You use that for sfc instead of the CD.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

Thanks for "hanging" in there w/ me to try and resolve this problem.
I have a copy of the DLL in the C:\I386 folder which Dell made
available from the initial Win XP install. When I tried to fire off
the calculator with a Scheduled Task, nothing happened. No msg in
the scheduler log either. I will try the sfc later this week and
post the results here. The registry settings for the Setup is
already pointing to the C: drive, so maybe it won't ask for the CD.

Peter


Wesley Vogel said:
Peter;

1) Interesting. I can't find schtasks.exe or schtasks.ex_ on
either of my Home or Pro CDs.
The underscore _ denotes that this is a compressed file.
schtasks.exe is on my machine @ C:\WINDOWS\system32
It should be part of both Home and Pro. Hmm..............


2) I have an MS KB Article that says:
[[Dllname was loaded, but the DllRegisterServer or
DllUnregisterServer entry point was not found.
Dllname is not a .dll or .ocx file. For example, typing regsvr32
wjview.exe generates this error message.]]

This does us no good at all.
I checked another source and it says [[schedsvc.dll DLLSelfRegister:
No]] That may have something to do with trying to register it.
============

Try this:

Start | Run | Type: sfc /scannow |OK
Have your XP CD ready to stick in your CD drive
Reboot when done.

This offers some explanation for the command above.
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

===========

If that doesn't work, we can try to expand SCHEDSVC.DL_
from your XP CD.
==========

Just curious. Schedule Calculator to run in five
minutes, set for One time only, does it open??

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

Two problems when trying to use your suggestions.

1) I did not find schtasks.exe on my PC anywhere - did a full C:
drive search.
2) When I tried to register schedsvc.dll, I got an error message
that stated "Schedsvc.dll was loaded, but the DLLRegisterServer
entry point was not found. This file can not be registered.".

Does this message mean that the version of the task scheduler on my
PC is corrupt?

Peter


Peter;

See if this helps. You may be able to see if Schedule Tasks is
working. schtasks.exe = Schedule Tasks

Start | Run | Type: cmd | OK |
When Command Prompt opens |
Type: schtasks.exe /? | ENTER
Try some of the commands.
========

schedsvc.dll = Task Scheduler Engine
This command will try to register schedsvc.dll

Start | Run | Type:

regsvr32 schedsvc.dll

OK

There should be a popup message telling sucess or failure for
whatever reason.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for your reply. I have tried using the Task Scheduler when
my account has a password and without and get the same result.
The McAfee tasks are scheduled by McAfee itself, but the weekly
scan never runs. Their support staff suggested applying a
password to the account, but that has not fixed the problem. Is
there any method to refresh the Task Scheduler without reloading
XP?

Peter


Peter;

I had XP Home SP1 with no password and Kelly's tweak worked for
me.

Task Scheduler Does Not Run Tasks When "Run As" User Account Has
No Password

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311119#appliesto

AT Tasks Cannot Be Viewed Using the Task Scheduler Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;220149

Maybe you should try to schedule the McAfee tasks with Mcafee
itself and don't use Task Scheduler. Just a thought. :blush:)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

As I stated in my original posting, the tweak from Kelly's site
worked (to allow task scheduling without account passwords) for
a machine without SP1 but not one that has the SP1 installed.
At least that is my experience.

Any others?

Peter

Peter;

Look here:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Scroll down to:
67. Run Scheduled Tasks w/o PW Home

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
I am running XP Home SP1 on a new Dell 4600. I have McAfee
VirusScan running on it. The scheduled virus definition
updates appear to be checked periodically by McAfee using the
Task Scheduler and that task runs fine. When I try to setup a
weekly virus scan using my account and password, the task
never runs. Likewise when I go through the Add Task Wizard to
add a disk cleanup task or use the at command to manually add
the cleanup task, they never run. I have tried stopping and
starting the scheduler to no avail. The scheduler log shows
no entries for either the McAfee weekly scan or my Disk
Cleanup task only the automatic virus update check. Ideally I
would like to run my machine without a password since I have
an older Dell 4500 running XP Home (without SP1) and it runs
the Disk Cleanup just fine (no account password). I have used
Kelly's registry edit to disable the "limitblankpassworduse"
on both machines.

What is involved in getting the Scheduler to run on the SP1
machine?

Thanks for any help,
Peter
 
P

Peter Crickman

Wes,

Based on various postings found in Google Groups, schtasks.exe is not
distributed w/ the OEM versions of Win XP. This might explain why we were
not able to find it on the Win XP CDs or in my case anywhere on the C: drive
including the i386 folder. Are you familiar with the System Scheduler
available from Splinterware Software Solutions
(http://www.splinterware.com)? Looks like a nice free alternative.

Peter


Wesley Vogel said:
Peter;

Yeah, if you do not have a real XP CD, Dell probably installed an i386 file.
You use that for sfc instead of the CD.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

Thanks for "hanging" in there w/ me to try and resolve this problem.
I have a copy of the DLL in the C:\I386 folder which Dell made
available from the initial Win XP install. When I tried to fire off
the calculator with a Scheduled Task, nothing happened. No msg in
the scheduler log either. I will try the sfc later this week and
post the results here. The registry settings for the Setup is
already pointing to the C: drive, so maybe it won't ask for the CD.

Peter


Wesley Vogel said:
Peter;

1) Interesting. I can't find schtasks.exe or schtasks.ex_ on
either of my Home or Pro CDs.
The underscore _ denotes that this is a compressed file.
schtasks.exe is on my machine @ C:\WINDOWS\system32
It should be part of both Home and Pro. Hmm..............


2) I have an MS KB Article that says:
[[Dllname was loaded, but the DllRegisterServer or
DllUnregisterServer entry point was not found.
Dllname is not a .dll or .ocx file. For example, typing regsvr32
wjview.exe generates this error message.]]

This does us no good at all.
I checked another source and it says [[schedsvc.dll DLLSelfRegister:
No]] That may have something to do with trying to register it.
============

Try this:

Start | Run | Type: sfc /scannow |OK
Have your XP CD ready to stick in your CD drive
Reboot when done.

This offers some explanation for the command above.
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

===========

If that doesn't work, we can try to expand SCHEDSVC.DL_
from your XP CD.
==========

Just curious. Schedule Calculator to run in five
minutes, set for One time only, does it open??

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Two problems when trying to use your suggestions.

1) I did not find schtasks.exe on my PC anywhere - did a full C:
drive search.
2) When I tried to register schedsvc.dll, I got an error message
that stated "Schedsvc.dll was loaded, but the DLLRegisterServer
entry point was not found. This file can not be registered.".

Does this message mean that the version of the task scheduler on my
PC is corrupt?

Peter


Peter;

See if this helps. You may be able to see if Schedule Tasks is
working. schtasks.exe = Schedule Tasks

Start | Run | Type: cmd | OK |
When Command Prompt opens |
Type: schtasks.exe /? | ENTER
Try some of the commands.
========

schedsvc.dll = Task Scheduler Engine
This command will try to register schedsvc.dll

Start | Run | Type:

regsvr32 schedsvc.dll

OK

There should be a popup message telling sucess or failure for
whatever reason.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for your reply. I have tried using the Task Scheduler when
my account has a password and without and get the same result.
The McAfee tasks are scheduled by McAfee itself, but the weekly
scan never runs. Their support staff suggested applying a
password to the account, but that has not fixed the problem. Is
there any method to refresh the Task Scheduler without reloading
XP?

Peter


Peter;

I had XP Home SP1 with no password and Kelly's tweak worked for
me.

Task Scheduler Does Not Run Tasks When "Run As" User Account Has
No Password

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311119#appliesto

AT Tasks Cannot Be Viewed Using the Task Scheduler Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;220149

Maybe you should try to schedule the McAfee tasks with Mcafee
itself and don't use Task Scheduler. Just a thought. :blush:)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

As I stated in my original posting, the tweak from Kelly's site
worked (to allow task scheduling without account passwords) for
a machine without SP1 but not one that has the SP1 installed.
At least that is my experience.

Any others?

Peter

Peter;

Look here:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Scroll down to:
67. Run Scheduled Tasks w/o PW Home

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
I am running XP Home SP1 on a new Dell 4600. I have McAfee
VirusScan running on it. The scheduled virus definition
updates appear to be checked periodically by McAfee using the
Task Scheduler and that task runs fine. When I try to setup a
weekly virus scan using my account and password, the task
never runs. Likewise when I go through the Add Task Wizard to
add a disk cleanup task or use the at command to manually add
the cleanup task, they never run. I have tried stopping and
starting the scheduler to no avail. The scheduler log shows
no entries for either the McAfee weekly scan or my Disk
Cleanup task only the automatic virus update check. Ideally I
would like to run my machine without a password since I have
an older Dell 4500 running XP Home (without SP1) and it runs
the Disk Cleanup just fine (no account password). I have used
Kelly's registry edit to disable the "limitblankpassworduse"
on both machines.

What is involved in getting the Scheduler to run on the SP1
machine?

Thanks for any help,
Peter
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Hi Peter;

I knew that you get screwed with OEM, but I find out all the time how much
you get screwed. Hmm....

No I am not familar with System Scheduler, but I looked at the link you
included.

[[For anyone used to using MSTask, AT or WinAT, System Scheduler is an ideal
and easy to use replacement, with more flexibility and features.]]

If the System Scheduler Free Version works at all, I'd say it would be worth
downloading, installing and giving it a try. Hey it's free. If it works
and you want the extra features, you can always get the System Scheduler
Professional later.

Good luck!
Keep having fun!

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

Based on various postings found in Google Groups, schtasks.exe is not
distributed w/ the OEM versions of Win XP. This might explain why we
were not able to find it on the Win XP CDs or in my case anywhere on
the C: drive including the i386 folder. Are you familiar with the
System Scheduler available from Splinterware Software Solutions
(http://www.splinterware.com)? Looks like a nice free alternative.

Peter


Wesley Vogel said:
Peter;

Yeah, if you do not have a real XP CD, Dell probably installed an
i386 file. You use that for sfc instead of the CD.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

Thanks for "hanging" in there w/ me to try and resolve this problem.
I have a copy of the DLL in the C:\I386 folder which Dell made
available from the initial Win XP install. When I tried to fire off
the calculator with a Scheduled Task, nothing happened. No msg in
the scheduler log either. I will try the sfc later this week and
post the results here. The registry settings for the Setup is
already pointing to the C: drive, so maybe it won't ask for the CD.

Peter


Peter;

1) Interesting. I can't find schtasks.exe or schtasks.ex_ on
either of my Home or Pro CDs.
The underscore _ denotes that this is a compressed file.
schtasks.exe is on my machine @ C:\WINDOWS\system32
It should be part of both Home and Pro. Hmm..............


2) I have an MS KB Article that says:
[[Dllname was loaded, but the DllRegisterServer or
DllUnregisterServer entry point was not found.
Dllname is not a .dll or .ocx file. For example, typing regsvr32
wjview.exe generates this error message.]]

This does us no good at all.
I checked another source and it says [[schedsvc.dll
DLLSelfRegister: No]] That may have something to do with trying to
register it. ============

Try this:

Start | Run | Type: sfc /scannow |OK
Have your XP CD ready to stick in your CD drive
Reboot when done.

This offers some explanation for the command above.
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

===========

If that doesn't work, we can try to expand SCHEDSVC.DL_
from your XP CD.
==========

Just curious. Schedule Calculator to run in five
minutes, set for One time only, does it open??

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Two problems when trying to use your suggestions.

1) I did not find schtasks.exe on my PC anywhere - did a full C:
drive search.
2) When I tried to register schedsvc.dll, I got an error message
that stated "Schedsvc.dll was loaded, but the DLLRegisterServer
entry point was not found. This file can not be registered.".

Does this message mean that the version of the task scheduler on
my PC is corrupt?

Peter


Peter;

See if this helps. You may be able to see if Schedule Tasks is
working. schtasks.exe = Schedule Tasks

Start | Run | Type: cmd | OK |
When Command Prompt opens |
Type: schtasks.exe /? | ENTER
Try some of the commands.
========

schedsvc.dll = Task Scheduler Engine
This command will try to register schedsvc.dll

Start | Run | Type:

regsvr32 schedsvc.dll

OK

There should be a popup message telling sucess or failure for
whatever reason.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for your reply. I have tried using the Task Scheduler
when my account has a password and without and get the same
result. The McAfee tasks are scheduled by McAfee itself, but
the weekly scan never runs. Their support staff suggested
applying a password to the account, but that has not fixed the
problem. Is there any method to refresh the Task Scheduler
without reloading XP?

Peter


Peter;

I had XP Home SP1 with no password and Kelly's tweak worked for
me.

Task Scheduler Does Not Run Tasks When "Run As" User Account
Has No Password

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311119#appliesto

AT Tasks Cannot Be Viewed Using the Task Scheduler Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;220149

Maybe you should try to schedule the McAfee tasks with Mcafee
itself and don't use Task Scheduler. Just a thought. :blush:)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

As I stated in my original posting, the tweak from Kelly's
site worked (to allow task scheduling without account
passwords) for a machine without SP1 but not one that has the
SP1 installed. At least that is my experience.

Any others?

Peter

Peter;

Look here:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Scroll down to:
67. Run Scheduled Tasks w/o PW Home

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
I am running XP Home SP1 on a new Dell 4600. I have McAfee
VirusScan running on it. The scheduled virus definition
updates appear to be checked periodically by McAfee using the
Task Scheduler and that task runs fine. When I try to setup a
weekly virus scan using my account and password, the task
never runs. Likewise when I go through the Add Task Wizard to
add a disk cleanup task or use the at command to manually add
the cleanup task, they never run. I have tried stopping and
starting the scheduler to no avail. The scheduler log shows
no entries for either the McAfee weekly scan or my Disk
Cleanup task only the automatic virus update check. Ideally
I would like to run my machine without a password since I
have an older Dell 4500 running XP Home (without SP1) and it
runs the Disk Cleanup just fine (no account password). I
have used Kelly's registry edit to disable the
"limitblankpassworduse" on both machines.

What is involved in getting the Scheduler to run on the SP1
machine?

Thanks for any help,
Peter
 
P

Peter Crickman

Wes.

I ran the sfc tool and the results unfortunately are the same with the Task
Scheduler. I downloaded the eval copy of Pro version of the System
Scheduler to give it a try. Thanks so much for your help. I will try to
contact Dell Support for further help, but I suspect that they won't have
any solution either.

Peter

Wesley Vogel said:
Hi Peter;

I knew that you get screwed with OEM, but I find out all the time how much
you get screwed. Hmm....

No I am not familar with System Scheduler, but I looked at the link you
included.

[[For anyone used to using MSTask, AT or WinAT, System Scheduler is an ideal
and easy to use replacement, with more flexibility and features.]]

If the System Scheduler Free Version works at all, I'd say it would be worth
downloading, installing and giving it a try. Hey it's free. If it works
and you want the extra features, you can always get the System Scheduler
Professional later.

Good luck!
Keep having fun!

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

Based on various postings found in Google Groups, schtasks.exe is not
distributed w/ the OEM versions of Win XP. This might explain why we
were not able to find it on the Win XP CDs or in my case anywhere on
the C: drive including the i386 folder. Are you familiar with the
System Scheduler available from Splinterware Software Solutions
(http://www.splinterware.com)? Looks like a nice free alternative.

Peter


Wesley Vogel said:
Peter;

Yeah, if you do not have a real XP CD, Dell probably installed an
i386 file. You use that for sfc instead of the CD.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for "hanging" in there w/ me to try and resolve this problem.
I have a copy of the DLL in the C:\I386 folder which Dell made
available from the initial Win XP install. When I tried to fire off
the calculator with a Scheduled Task, nothing happened. No msg in
the scheduler log either. I will try the sfc later this week and
post the results here. The registry settings for the Setup is
already pointing to the C: drive, so maybe it won't ask for the CD.

Peter


Peter;

1) Interesting. I can't find schtasks.exe or schtasks.ex_ on
either of my Home or Pro CDs.
The underscore _ denotes that this is a compressed file.
schtasks.exe is on my machine @ C:\WINDOWS\system32
It should be part of both Home and Pro. Hmm..............


2) I have an MS KB Article that says:
[[Dllname was loaded, but the DllRegisterServer or
DllUnregisterServer entry point was not found.
Dllname is not a .dll or .ocx file. For example, typing regsvr32
wjview.exe generates this error message.]]

This does us no good at all.
I checked another source and it says [[schedsvc.dll
DLLSelfRegister: No]] That may have something to do with trying to
register it. ============

Try this:

Start | Run | Type: sfc /scannow |OK
Have your XP CD ready to stick in your CD drive
Reboot when done.

This offers some explanation for the command above.
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

===========

If that doesn't work, we can try to expand SCHEDSVC.DL_
from your XP CD.
==========

Just curious. Schedule Calculator to run in five
minutes, set for One time only, does it open??

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Two problems when trying to use your suggestions.

1) I did not find schtasks.exe on my PC anywhere - did a full C:
drive search.
2) When I tried to register schedsvc.dll, I got an error message
that stated "Schedsvc.dll was loaded, but the DLLRegisterServer
entry point was not found. This file can not be registered.".

Does this message mean that the version of the task scheduler on
my PC is corrupt?

Peter


Peter;

See if this helps. You may be able to see if Schedule Tasks is
working. schtasks.exe = Schedule Tasks

Start | Run | Type: cmd | OK |
When Command Prompt opens |
Type: schtasks.exe /? | ENTER
Try some of the commands.
========

schedsvc.dll = Task Scheduler Engine
This command will try to register schedsvc.dll

Start | Run | Type:

regsvr32 schedsvc.dll

OK

There should be a popup message telling sucess or failure for
whatever reason.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for your reply. I have tried using the Task Scheduler
when my account has a password and without and get the same
result. The McAfee tasks are scheduled by McAfee itself, but
the weekly scan never runs. Their support staff suggested
applying a password to the account, but that has not fixed the
problem. Is there any method to refresh the Task Scheduler
without reloading XP?

Peter


Peter;

I had XP Home SP1 with no password and Kelly's tweak worked for
me.

Task Scheduler Does Not Run Tasks When "Run As" User Account
Has No Password

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311119#appliesto

AT Tasks Cannot Be Viewed Using the Task Scheduler Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;220149

Maybe you should try to schedule the McAfee tasks with Mcafee
itself and don't use Task Scheduler. Just a thought. :blush:)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

As I stated in my original posting, the tweak from Kelly's
site worked (to allow task scheduling without account
passwords) for a machine without SP1 but not one that has the
SP1 installed. At least that is my experience.

Any others?

Peter

Peter;

Look here:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Scroll down to:
67. Run Scheduled Tasks w/o PW Home

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
I am running XP Home SP1 on a new Dell 4600. I have McAfee
VirusScan running on it. The scheduled virus definition
updates appear to be checked periodically by McAfee using the
Task Scheduler and that task runs fine. When I try to setup a
weekly virus scan using my account and password, the task
never runs. Likewise when I go through the Add Task Wizard to
add a disk cleanup task or use the at command to manually add
the cleanup task, they never run. I have tried stopping and
starting the scheduler to no avail. The scheduler log shows
no entries for either the McAfee weekly scan or my Disk
Cleanup task only the automatic virus update check. Ideally
I would like to run my machine without a password since I
have an older Dell 4500 running XP Home (without SP1) and it
runs the Disk Cleanup just fine (no account password). I
have used Kelly's registry edit to disable the
"limitblankpassworduse" on both machines.

What is involved in getting the Scheduler to run on the SP1
machine?

Thanks for any help,
Peter
 
P

Peter Crickman

Wes,

One last note - I tried the System Scheduler app and it was able to schedule
a Disk Cleanup task without nary a problem. I guess it will fill my needs
until I find a solution to the Windows Task Scheduler.

Peter



Peter Crickman said:
Wes.

I ran the sfc tool and the results unfortunately are the same with the Task
Scheduler. I downloaded the eval copy of Pro version of the System
Scheduler to give it a try. Thanks so much for your help. I will try to
contact Dell Support for further help, but I suspect that they won't have
any solution either.

Peter

Wesley Vogel said:
Hi Peter;

I knew that you get screwed with OEM, but I find out all the time how much
you get screwed. Hmm....

No I am not familar with System Scheduler, but I looked at the link you
included.

[[For anyone used to using MSTask, AT or WinAT, System Scheduler is an ideal
and easy to use replacement, with more flexibility and features.]]

If the System Scheduler Free Version works at all, I'd say it would be worth
downloading, installing and giving it a try. Hey it's free. If it works
and you want the extra features, you can always get the System Scheduler
Professional later.

Good luck!
Keep having fun!

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

Based on various postings found in Google Groups, schtasks.exe is not
distributed w/ the OEM versions of Win XP. This might explain why we
were not able to find it on the Win XP CDs or in my case anywhere on
the C: drive including the i386 folder. Are you familiar with the
System Scheduler available from Splinterware Software Solutions
(http://www.splinterware.com)? Looks like a nice free alternative.

Peter


Peter;

Yeah, if you do not have a real XP CD, Dell probably installed an
i386 file. You use that for sfc instead of the CD.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for "hanging" in there w/ me to try and resolve this problem.
I have a copy of the DLL in the C:\I386 folder which Dell made
available from the initial Win XP install. When I tried to fire off
the calculator with a Scheduled Task, nothing happened. No msg in
the scheduler log either. I will try the sfc later this week and
post the results here. The registry settings for the Setup is
already pointing to the C: drive, so maybe it won't ask for the CD.

Peter


Peter;

1) Interesting. I can't find schtasks.exe or schtasks.ex_ on
either of my Home or Pro CDs.
The underscore _ denotes that this is a compressed file.
schtasks.exe is on my machine @ C:\WINDOWS\system32
It should be part of both Home and Pro. Hmm..............


2) I have an MS KB Article that says:
[[Dllname was loaded, but the DllRegisterServer or
DllUnregisterServer entry point was not found.
Dllname is not a .dll or .ocx file. For example, typing regsvr32
wjview.exe generates this error message.]]

This does us no good at all.
I checked another source and it says [[schedsvc.dll
DLLSelfRegister: No]] That may have something to do with trying to
register it. ============

Try this:

Start | Run | Type: sfc /scannow |OK
Have your XP CD ready to stick in your CD drive
Reboot when done.

This offers some explanation for the command above.
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

===========

If that doesn't work, we can try to expand SCHEDSVC.DL_
from your XP CD.
==========

Just curious. Schedule Calculator to run in five
minutes, set for One time only, does it open??

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Two problems when trying to use your suggestions.

1) I did not find schtasks.exe on my PC anywhere - did a full C:
drive search.
2) When I tried to register schedsvc.dll, I got an error message
that stated "Schedsvc.dll was loaded, but the DLLRegisterServer
entry point was not found. This file can not be registered.".

Does this message mean that the version of the task scheduler on
my PC is corrupt?

Peter


Peter;

See if this helps. You may be able to see if Schedule Tasks is
working. schtasks.exe = Schedule Tasks

Start | Run | Type: cmd | OK |
When Command Prompt opens |
Type: schtasks.exe /? | ENTER
Try some of the commands.
========

schedsvc.dll = Task Scheduler Engine
This command will try to register schedsvc.dll

Start | Run | Type:

regsvr32 schedsvc.dll

OK

There should be a popup message telling sucess or failure for
whatever reason.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for your reply. I have tried using the Task Scheduler
when my account has a password and without and get the same
result. The McAfee tasks are scheduled by McAfee itself, but
the weekly scan never runs. Their support staff suggested
applying a password to the account, but that has not fixed the
problem. Is there any method to refresh the Task Scheduler
without reloading XP?

Peter


Peter;

I had XP Home SP1 with no password and Kelly's tweak worked for
me.

Task Scheduler Does Not Run Tasks When "Run As" User Account
Has No Password


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311119#appliesto

AT Tasks Cannot Be Viewed Using the Task Scheduler Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;220149

Maybe you should try to schedule the McAfee tasks with Mcafee
itself and don't use Task Scheduler. Just a thought. :blush:)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

As I stated in my original posting, the tweak from Kelly's
site worked (to allow task scheduling without account
passwords) for a machine without SP1 but not one that has the
SP1 installed. At least that is my experience.

Any others?

Peter

Peter;

Look here:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Scroll down to:
67. Run Scheduled Tasks w/o PW Home

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
I am running XP Home SP1 on a new Dell 4600. I have McAfee
VirusScan running on it. The scheduled virus definition
updates appear to be checked periodically by McAfee using the
Task Scheduler and that task runs fine. When I try to setup a
weekly virus scan using my account and password, the task
never runs. Likewise when I go through the Add Task Wizard to
add a disk cleanup task or use the at command to manually add
the cleanup task, they never run. I have tried stopping and
starting the scheduler to no avail. The scheduler log shows
no entries for either the McAfee weekly scan or my Disk
Cleanup task only the automatic virus update check. Ideally
I would like to run my machine without a password since I
have an older Dell 4500 running XP Home (without SP1) and it
runs the Disk Cleanup just fine (no account password). I
have used Kelly's registry edit to disable the
"limitblankpassworduse" on both machines.

What is involved in getting the Scheduler to run on the SP1
machine?

Thanks for any help,
Peter
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Peter;

Well, we gave it the old college try.
Probably something simple that we overlooked.

Keep having fun!

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes.

I ran the sfc tool and the results unfortunately are the same with
the Task Scheduler. I downloaded the eval copy of Pro version of the
System Scheduler to give it a try. Thanks so much for your help. I
will try to contact Dell Support for further help, but I suspect that
they won't have any solution either.

Peter

Wesley Vogel said:
Hi Peter;

I knew that you get screwed with OEM, but I find out all the time
how much you get screwed. Hmm....

No I am not familar with System Scheduler, but I looked at the link
you included.

[[For anyone used to using MSTask, AT or WinAT, System Scheduler is
an ideal and easy to use replacement, with more flexibility and
features.]]

If the System Scheduler Free Version works at all, I'd say it would
be worth downloading, installing and giving it a try. Hey it's
free. If it works and you want the extra features, you can always
get the System Scheduler Professional later.

Good luck!
Keep having fun!

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

Based on various postings found in Google Groups, schtasks.exe is
not distributed w/ the OEM versions of Win XP. This might explain
why we were not able to find it on the Win XP CDs or in my case
anywhere on the C: drive including the i386 folder. Are you
familiar with the System Scheduler available from Splinterware
Software Solutions (http://www.splinterware.com)? Looks like a
nice free alternative.

Peter


Peter;

Yeah, if you do not have a real XP CD, Dell probably installed an
i386 file. You use that for sfc instead of the CD.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for "hanging" in there w/ me to try and resolve this
problem. I have a copy of the DLL in the C:\I386 folder which
Dell made available from the initial Win XP install. When I
tried to fire off the calculator with a Scheduled Task, nothing
happened. No msg in the scheduler log either. I will try the
sfc later this week and post the results here. The registry
settings for the Setup is already pointing to the C: drive, so
maybe it won't ask for the CD.

Peter


Peter;

1) Interesting. I can't find schtasks.exe or schtasks.ex_ on
either of my Home or Pro CDs.
The underscore _ denotes that this is a compressed file.
schtasks.exe is on my machine @ C:\WINDOWS\system32
It should be part of both Home and Pro. Hmm..............


2) I have an MS KB Article that says:
[[Dllname was loaded, but the DllRegisterServer or
DllUnregisterServer entry point was not found.
Dllname is not a .dll or .ocx file. For example, typing regsvr32
wjview.exe generates this error message.]]

This does us no good at all.
I checked another source and it says [[schedsvc.dll
DLLSelfRegister: No]] That may have something to do with trying
to register it. ============

Try this:

Start | Run | Type: sfc /scannow |OK
Have your XP CD ready to stick in your CD drive
Reboot when done.

This offers some explanation for the command above.
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

===========

If that doesn't work, we can try to expand SCHEDSVC.DL_
from your XP CD.
==========

Just curious. Schedule Calculator to run in five
minutes, set for One time only, does it open??

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Two problems when trying to use your suggestions.

1) I did not find schtasks.exe on my PC anywhere - did a full C:
drive search.
2) When I tried to register schedsvc.dll, I got an error message
that stated "Schedsvc.dll was loaded, but the DLLRegisterServer
entry point was not found. This file can not be registered.".

Does this message mean that the version of the task scheduler on
my PC is corrupt?

Peter


Peter;

See if this helps. You may be able to see if Schedule Tasks is
working. schtasks.exe = Schedule Tasks

Start | Run | Type: cmd | OK |
When Command Prompt opens |
Type: schtasks.exe /? | ENTER
Try some of the commands.
========

schedsvc.dll = Task Scheduler Engine
This command will try to register schedsvc.dll

Start | Run | Type:

regsvr32 schedsvc.dll

OK

There should be a popup message telling sucess or failure for
whatever reason.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for your reply. I have tried using the Task Scheduler
when my account has a password and without and get the same
result. The McAfee tasks are scheduled by McAfee itself, but
the weekly scan never runs. Their support staff suggested
applying a password to the account, but that has not fixed the
problem. Is there any method to refresh the Task Scheduler
without reloading XP?

Peter


Peter;

I had XP Home SP1 with no password and Kelly's tweak worked
for me.

Task Scheduler Does Not Run Tasks When "Run As" User Account
Has No Password


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311119#appliesto

AT Tasks Cannot Be Viewed Using the Task Scheduler Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;220149

Maybe you should try to schedule the McAfee tasks with Mcafee
itself and don't use Task Scheduler. Just a thought. :blush:)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and
pecked:
Wes,

As I stated in my original posting, the tweak from Kelly's
site worked (to allow task scheduling without account
passwords) for a machine without SP1 but not one that has
the SP1 installed. At least that is my experience.

Any others?

Peter

Peter;

Look here:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Scroll down to:
67. Run Scheduled Tasks w/o PW Home

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and
pecked:
I am running XP Home SP1 on a new Dell 4600. I have McAfee
VirusScan running on it. The scheduled virus definition
updates appear to be checked periodically by McAfee using
the Task Scheduler and that task runs fine. When I try to
setup a weekly virus scan using my account and password,
the task never runs. Likewise when I go through the Add
Task Wizard to add a disk cleanup task or use the at
command to manually add the cleanup task, they never run.
I have tried stopping and starting the scheduler to no
avail. The scheduler log shows no entries for either the
McAfee weekly scan or my Disk Cleanup task only the
automatic virus update check. Ideally I would like to run
my machine without a password since I have an older Dell
4500 running XP Home (without SP1) and it runs the Disk
Cleanup just fine (no account password). I have used
Kelly's registry edit to disable the
"limitblankpassworduse" on both machines.

What is involved in getting the Scheduler to run on the SP1
machine?

Thanks for any help,
Peter
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Peter;

Super!

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In
Peter Crickman said:
Wes,

One last note - I tried the System Scheduler app and it was able to
schedule a Disk Cleanup task without nary a problem. I guess it will
fill my needs until I find a solution to the Windows Task Scheduler.

Peter



Peter Crickman said:
Wes.

I ran the sfc tool and the results unfortunately are the same with
the Task Scheduler. I downloaded the eval copy of Pro version of
the System Scheduler to give it a try. Thanks so much for your
help. I will try to contact Dell Support for further help, but I
suspect that they won't have any solution either.

Peter

Wesley Vogel said:
Hi Peter;

I knew that you get screwed with OEM, but I find out all the time
how much you get screwed. Hmm....

No I am not familar with System Scheduler, but I looked at the link
you included.

[[For anyone used to using MSTask, AT or WinAT, System Scheduler is
an ideal and easy to use replacement, with more flexibility and
features.]]

If the System Scheduler Free Version works at all, I'd say it would
be worth downloading, installing and giving it a try. Hey it's
free. If it works and you want the extra features, you can always
get the System Scheduler Professional later.

Good luck!
Keep having fun!

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Based on various postings found in Google Groups, schtasks.exe is
not distributed w/ the OEM versions of Win XP. This might explain
why we were not able to find it on the Win XP CDs or in my case
anywhere on the C: drive including the i386 folder. Are you
familiar with the System Scheduler available from Splinterware
Software Solutions (http://www.splinterware.com)? Looks like a
nice free alternative.

Peter


Peter;

Yeah, if you do not have a real XP CD, Dell probably installed an
i386 file. You use that for sfc instead of the CD.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for "hanging" in there w/ me to try and resolve this
problem. I have a copy of the DLL in the C:\I386 folder which
Dell made available from the initial Win XP install. When I
tried to fire off the calculator with a Scheduled Task, nothing
happened. No msg in the scheduler log either. I will try the
sfc later this week and post the results here. The registry
settings for the Setup is already pointing to the C: drive, so
maybe it won't ask for the CD.

Peter


Peter;

1) Interesting. I can't find schtasks.exe or schtasks.ex_ on
either of my Home or Pro CDs.
The underscore _ denotes that this is a compressed file.
schtasks.exe is on my machine @ C:\WINDOWS\system32
It should be part of both Home and Pro. Hmm..............


2) I have an MS KB Article that says:
[[Dllname was loaded, but the DllRegisterServer or
DllUnregisterServer entry point was not found.
Dllname is not a .dll or .ocx file. For example, typing
regsvr32 wjview.exe generates this error message.]]

This does us no good at all.
I checked another source and it says [[schedsvc.dll
DLLSelfRegister: No]] That may have something to do with trying
to register it. ============

Try this:

Start | Run | Type: sfc /scannow |OK
Have your XP CD ready to stick in your CD drive
Reboot when done.

This offers some explanation for the command above.
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

===========

If that doesn't work, we can try to expand SCHEDSVC.DL_
from your XP CD.
==========

Just curious. Schedule Calculator to run in five
minutes, set for One time only, does it open??

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Two problems when trying to use your suggestions.

1) I did not find schtasks.exe on my PC anywhere - did a full
C: drive search.
2) When I tried to register schedsvc.dll, I got an error
message that stated "Schedsvc.dll was loaded, but the
DLLRegisterServer entry point was not found. This file can
not be registered.".

Does this message mean that the version of the task scheduler
on my PC is corrupt?

Peter


Peter;

See if this helps. You may be able to see if Schedule Tasks
is working. schtasks.exe = Schedule Tasks

Start | Run | Type: cmd | OK |
When Command Prompt opens |
Type: schtasks.exe /? | ENTER
Try some of the commands.
========

schedsvc.dll = Task Scheduler Engine
This command will try to register schedsvc.dll

Start | Run | Type:

regsvr32 schedsvc.dll

OK

There should be a popup message telling sucess or failure for
whatever reason.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes,

Thanks for your reply. I have tried using the Task Scheduler
when my account has a password and without and get the same
result. The McAfee tasks are scheduled by McAfee itself, but
the weekly scan never runs. Their support staff suggested
applying a password to the account, but that has not fixed
the problem. Is there any method to refresh the Task
Scheduler without reloading XP?

Peter


Peter;

I had XP Home SP1 with no password and Kelly's tweak worked
for me.

Task Scheduler Does Not Run Tasks When "Run As" User Account
Has No Password


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;311119#appliesto

AT Tasks Cannot Be Viewed Using the Task Scheduler Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;220149

Maybe you should try to schedule the McAfee tasks with
Mcafee itself and don't use Task Scheduler. Just a
thought. :blush:)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and
pecked:
Wes,

As I stated in my original posting, the tweak from Kelly's
site worked (to allow task scheduling without account
passwords) for a machine without SP1 but not one that has
the SP1 installed. At least that is my experience.

Any others?

Peter

Peter;

Look here:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Scroll down to:
67. Run Scheduled Tasks w/o PW Home

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In Peter Crickman <[email protected]> hunted and
pecked:
I am running XP Home SP1 on a new Dell 4600. I have
McAfee VirusScan running on it. The scheduled virus
definition updates appear to be checked periodically by
McAfee using the Task Scheduler and that task runs fine.
When I try to setup a weekly virus scan using my account
and password, the task never runs. Likewise when I go
through the Add Task Wizard to add a disk cleanup task or
use the at command to manually add the cleanup task, they
never run. I have tried stopping and starting the
scheduler to no avail. The scheduler log shows no
entries for either the McAfee weekly scan or my Disk
Cleanup task only the automatic virus update check.
Ideally I would like to run my machine without a password
since I have an older Dell 4500 running XP Home (without
SP1) and it runs the Disk Cleanup just fine (no account
password). I have used Kelly's registry edit to disable
the "limitblankpassworduse" on both machines.

What is involved in getting the Scheduler to run on the
SP1 machine?

Thanks for any help,
Peter
 
A

AK

Peter:

I and others have had this problem and so far no-one seems to have come up
with a solution.

Kelly's tweak only works when there isn't a problem and you want to use an
account without having a password. I spent hours on the phone and by e-mail
with Microsoft, and they couldn't help either.

I think you're out of luck, which is a real nuisance since, like you, I want
to use task scheduler to update anti-virus files etc. and have to remember
to do it manually.

Rgds

Alan
 

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