task manager anomaly

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Tom Hall

64-bit Vista Home Premium

I've noticed that task manager does not appear to show me all the processes
that are actually running. The number of processes as displayed on the
program's status bar is invariably larger than the number of processes
actually shown.

Is there some way to reveal ALL the processes that Vista says is running?

Tom
 
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Bill Daggett

Tom Hall said:
64-bit Vista Home Premium

I've noticed that task manager does not appear to show me all the processes
that are actually running. The number of processes as displayed on the
program's status bar is invariably larger than the number of processes
actually shown.

Is there some way to reveal ALL the processes that Vista says is running?
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Tick the box "Show processes from all users".
 
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Bill Daggett

Rick Rogers said:
And keep in mind that things like svchost.exe can compromise a number of
processes within a thread.
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Comprise. "Compromise" plays into the hands of the trolls :)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Comprise. "Compromise" plays into the hands of the trolls :)
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OK, here's a compromise (I had to use that word!): the OP could try Process
Explorer, a free program downloadable from Microsoft, which is *very*
thorough.
 
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Tom Hall

OK, here's a compromise (I had to use that word!): the OP could try Process
Explorer, a free program downloadable from Microsoft, which is *very*
thorough.
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Quite right - and thank you for reminding me about this, because I used it
on my XP machine for years.

The only problem now is, the .chm file that comes with the program is not
usable. Is there a way of converting the .chm to a format that 64-bit Vista
Home Premium can read?


Tom
 
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DaveD

I get the same message when trying to reinstall it on my system.
Perhaps you already have it. (Scan for winhlp32.exe to find out.)

After replying to your email, I did some checking and found that the .chm
files are opened by hh.exe, not by winhlp32.exe

According to MS, hh.exe is included with Vista.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb757030.aspx

I'm afraid that's all I know.

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Tom Hall

I get the same message when trying to reinstall it on my system.
Perhaps you already have it. (Scan for winhlp32.exe to find out.)

After replying to your email, I did some checking and found that the .chm
files are opened by hh.exe, not by winhlp32.exe

According to MS, hh.exe is included with Vista.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb757030.aspx

I'm afraid that's all I know.
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Yes, I've found hh.exe here - in several places actually - but its presence
doesn't seem to affect the unreadability of the chm file.

Actually, I should probably amend that statement. Technically, the file IS
actually opened, but all that is displayed is a window that says
"navigation to the web page was cancelled", "what you can do is: retype the
address".

Interesting that such a problem should occur with a Microsoft program on a
Microsoft operating system... :)


Tom
 
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DaveD

hmmm... sounds like a security issue.
Have you fiddled with the IE security settings?
(I have IE8 installed, but don't use it - I'm a Firefox man, and the
settings for IE are the defaults.)

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Tom Hall

Found the solution. In File Properties I clicked on the Unblock button and
now the file's contents are displayed.



hmmm... sounds like a security issue.
Have you fiddled with the IE security settings?
(I have IE8 installed, but don't use it - I'm a Firefox man, and the
settings for IE are the defaults.)

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Tom
 
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DaveD

Congratulations. We both learned a new trick!
I wonder if it was blocked by Defender or the firewall?
There might be a global setting you could change.

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Dave-UK

DaveD said:
Congratulations. We both learned a new trick!
I wonder if it was blocked by Defender or the firewall?
There might be a global setting you could change.

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I have found that many files, (especially exe,zip,etc.) downloaded
from the internet are ' blocked' by Vista.
As the OP stated there is an 'Unblock' button on the properties tab.
If you do not click the Unblock button you get a warning box about 'possibly
unsafe file from the internet' appearing when you run the file.

The data is added as an alternate data stream to the file. You can see this using a small
utility from Nirsoft:

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/alternate_data_streams.html

(The 3 files in this zip package will be 'Blocked'.)

If you use AlternateStreamView.exe to delete the data stream from a file the
Unblock button will be removed from the properties tab.
 
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Bill Daggett

Dave-UK said:
I have found that many files, (especially exe,zip,etc.) downloaded
from the internet are ' blocked' by Vista.
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I have yet to find ONE such file.
 
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Dave-UK

Bill Daggett said:
I have yet to find ONE such file.
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Well download the zip file from the link I gave and save it to your Desktop.
It is called alternatestreamview.zip
Right-click the zip file and select 'Properties'.
At the bottom of the General tab you will see a button marked 'Unblock'.
And the text reads:
"This file came from another computer and might be blocked
to help protect this computer".

When you unzip the archive you will have 3 files.
All three will have the 'Unblock' button as above, even the text file.
 
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Tom Hall

Congratulations. We both learned a new trick!
I wonder if it was blocked by Defender or the firewall?
There might be a global setting you could change.
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I think it's a Vista "feature". I find that Winzip is MUCH slower unzipping
files that have not been unblocked. I have UAC turned off.


Tom
 

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