sytem restore problem

[Guest]

I have a Vista dual boot computer with Vista installed on its own hard drive.
I've noticed that whenever I access "system restore and look for the restore
points, there is only that day's restore point available. As far as I can
tell, the older restore points are being deleted. Any help?

 

[jim]

You ran into the VISTA- XP dual boot notorious problem.
Microsoft is stupid and left this HUGE bug .. although many people
notified them....

whenever you log into XP, XP thinks the vista restore points are deleted by
XP
because they think its something that is corrupted... the only way around
this
is to get TRAYS for the hard disks so you can slide them in and out so they
are never on at the same time....

or if you are very good with a soldering iron and electronics you can do
this with a switch so you wont need hard disk removable trays

 

[Michael Jennings]

When you dual boot Vista and XP, each time you boot XP it will destroy
Vista's restore points unless you hide the Vista partition from XP. What
I have done about this is to turn off system restore in Vista. I suppose it
would be possible to unplug the Vista drive before booting XP, but the
sensible thing would be to use a boot manager to hide Vista from XP
if you want Vista system restore and other backup features to work.

 

[Guest]

thanks guys, are they going to fix it?

When you dual boot Vista and XP, each time you boot XP it will destroy
Vista's restore points unless you hide the Vista partition from XP. What
I have done about this is to turn off system restore in Vista. I suppose it
would be possible to unplug the Vista drive before booting XP, but the
sensible thing would be to use a boot manager to hide Vista from XP
if you want Vista system restore and other backup features to work.

 

[jim]

No... they will not.. because they say that Vista is a one desktop OS per
machine
OS...

frankly they dont care....

there is a solution if you have vista ultimate to encrypt your whole vista
drive..
but I wouldnt do it

 

[Guest]

Hello Bummerman,

Have you explored the below URL? If not, visit that Vista Site and locate
BitLocker, Encrypted File System, Help and how to, and the Top Ten Tips &
Tricks.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/accessibility.mspx

If your Vista Version provides BitLocker, for enhanced Security activate
BitLocker, the benefits are too many for now expressing.

Typically, for known reasons, dual booting XP and Vista presents many not
desired conflicts.

Dual / multi booting *all* previous versions of Windows was very simple
until the introduction of Vista.

Vista's advanced state-of-the-art technology, never before experienced by
the computing industry is intended as a solo OS. For some computer users, it
will be several years before they fully comprehend Windows Vista because they
remain living in history wrongly believing Windows Vista is historic legacy
Microsoft Windows.

Respectfully,

 

[jim]

BEWARE Jonathan is misleading you...!!!
if your hard disk crashes you have no way to access the encrypted
information...
and everything will be lost!!!!
bitlocker is very dangerous in some situations and should not be used
without extreme caution!!!

 

[johnm]

No... they will not.. because they say that Vista is a one desktop OS per
machine
OS...

frankly they dont care....

The best part about it is, they really didn't HAVE to break it in the first
place.
I've seen it posted here over and over that dual-booting XP & Vista "breaks"
System Restore, but I have not seen one single =logical= explanation as to
why.
"It just does" is all you're gonna read here - even the zombies can't answer
this one.

Just more gun-to-the-temple "persuasion" by MS to choose one.. or perhaps
more to the point, -force- you to phase XP out.
IOW, and as usual, Microsoft imposing their will by -removing- user options.

 

[Michael Jennings]

Jonathan Schwartz 2 seems a lot like FireWall 2.
Same manner of speech, attitude and accuracy.

Encrypting a laptop thwarts data theft in case of loss -
useful if you're carrying the VA client database in it
and a burglar takes it from your bedroom, for instance.

 

[Guest]

thanks for the interest, I will switcjh it over to just Vista as soon as
possible considering driver availability and all that stuff, Right now The xp
side is where my important data is

 

[Michael Jennings]

That's where I'm at, because WinMail isn't ready to replace OE.
I don't expect a quick resolution, so I'm resigned to dual booting.
Since I use BootItNG to manage the boot and make images,
I could also use it to hide the Vista partition from XP, but then
I wouldn't be able to get to any files in Vista from XP. I feel that
access is more important than Vista's convenient backup features.
In case of bad trouble, I can restore a BootItNG partition image.

 

[Bert Kinney]

Hi,

There's no plans on correcting the dual boot problem at this point. You will
find a couple of workarounds on the following page.

Dual Booting Windows Vista & Windows XP:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org