Systemn Mechanic 7 Professional sucks!

M

mginat

I posted below in response to someone who said never to use registry
cleaners that are advertised on google etc. I'm curious to know if
anyone has anything good to say about Sys Mechanic 7. I'm not usually
one to complain but this experience has really ticked me off.

"I puchased this piece of garbage from Best Buy, hoping to resolve
some problems I was having with the underperforming HP desktop I
bought last December. I thought the AMD dual core processor would be
an improvement over my 2 yr old laptop. I saw no difference, in fact
the laptop is more reliable.
According to the advertising on the cover Iolo's product has one many
awards and is also a virus protector and firewall. I had to turn off
the firewall, now the virus protector gives me an error message at
startup. I turned on the windows firewall and every now and then get a
message that I have no firewall on.
How do these people get away with it? I will never buy anything from
Best Buy again after this, nor HP.
One hilarious feature of this program, it tells you that you have a
critical error in that there are some files to clean up. First of all
that should not be a critical error, they are just Internet Cache
files etc. Second, if you click on "remove" it starts removing, then
gets to say 39% done and the program hangs ROFL! One time I had to do
a hard reboot to get the computer to start up again, sometimes you
click on the System Mechanic icon and nothing happens. In that case I
had to reinstall the program, probably losing one of the 3 licences it
comes with. Oh and by the way after reanalyzing the computer those few
hundred megabytes come back again as a critical problem to resolve.
Of course I contacted technical help and they sent me a link to their
FAQS etc. which I had already looked at. Then I had to email them
again and am still waiting for a response.
I blame the people who give these programs awards, and then Best Buy
and others for not looking into it. You can't return opened software
so they should make sure they are not selling dud programs like Sys
Mechanic 7."
 
G

Guest

I can appreciate your frustration, but this is not a windows XP operating
system issue, I'm sure there are review areas available on amazon.com or
somewhere else you can post your opinion/experiences with software
 
M

Mike G

I have been using SM 5.0 (the free version) on two computers now for 4
months. Luckly I have not had any problems with it. Perhaps it is fluff or
not, but the program finds a lot of registry entries that are not valid. I
do notice that some programs that I remove from the add/remove section in
the control panel, leaves a lot of registry entries as if they were still
there. The program allows me to delete them. I also have been trying a
program called cleanup (freeware) search google for it, that really is not a
memory hog, and can clean (flush) almost everything.
 
R

Rock

Mike G said:
I have been using SM 5.0 (the free version) on two computers now for 4
months. Luckly I have not had any problems with it. Perhaps it is fluff
or not, but the program finds a lot of registry entries that are not valid.
I do notice that some programs that I remove from the add/remove section in
the control panel, leaves a lot of registry entries as if they were still
there. The program allows me to delete them. I also have been trying a
program called cleanup (freeware) search google for it, that really is not
a memory hog, and can clean (flush) almost everything.

It is snake oil. Unused entries in the registry don't cause a problem. The
registry is not accessed sequentially so it's not a size issue either. If a
particular entry is causing a problem that should be removed, but there is
no benefit otherwise in "cleaning" the registry, and much opportunity for
damage. Sometimes the problems are not immediately evident, either, making
it even harder to track back. The bottom line, there is no need to run a
registry cleaner. They can cause more harm than good.
 
G

Guest

HI I purchased system 6 and my computer is always slow. I turn on and sit
and wait for mechanic to run. It can take for ever. They never answer a
question but expect you to read threw hundreds of faq's . I had the program
only a few months and they sent me a notice that I needed to purchase system
7. I wrote three times asking them to waive the cost of the new seven as I
only had use fior a few months. They never once answered my letters. You
could say I think they suck as well. My xp with pentium 4 runs slower than
the 486 it replaced. I will never by from hp again or the Staples store. With
so little service from microsoft I am not sure I want to deal with them again
either. No pone wants to offer service.
 
M

mginat

It is snake oil. Unused entries in the registry don't cause a problem. The
registry is not accessed sequentially so it's not a size issue either. If a
particular entry is causing a problem that should be removed, but there is
no benefit otherwise in "cleaning" the registry, and much opportunity for
damage. Sometimes the problems are not immediately evident, either, making
it even harder to track back. The bottom line, there is no need to run a
registry cleaner. They can cause more harm than good.

Thanks foryour input, I believe you that it doesn't hurt to leave
unused entries, but I thought logically speaking it would be good to
compact the registry to make it less cumbersome, no?
 
M

mginat

HI I purchased system 6 and my computer is always slow. I turn on and sit
and wait for mechanic to run. It can take for ever. They never answer a
question but expect you to read threw hundreds of faq's . I had the program
only a few months and they sent me a notice that I needed to purchase system
7. I wrote three times asking them to waive the cost of the new seven as I
only had use fior a few months. They never once answered my letters. You
could say I think they suck as well. My xp with pentium 4 runs slower than
the 486 it replaced. I will never by from hp again or the Staples store. With
so little service from microsoft I am not sure I want to deal with them again
either. No pone wants to offer service.






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Looks like you'll be wasting your money to upgrade
 
M

mginat

I can appreciate your frustration, but this is not a windows XP operating
system issue, I'm sure there are review areas available on amazon.com or
somewhere else you can post your opinion/experiences with software






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sorry - if it's just a xp issue, can I then ask you, is there ANY
point whatsoever to either clean the registry or compact it?
Thanks
 
M

mginat

I have been using SM 5.0 (the free version) on two computers now for 4
months. Luckly I have not had any problems with it. Perhaps it is fluff or
not, but the program finds a lot of registry entries that are not valid. I
do notice that some programs that I remove from the add/remove section in
the control panel, leaves a lot of registry entries as if they were still
there. The program allows me to delete them. I also have been trying a
program called cleanup (freeware) search google for it, that really is not a
memory hog, and can clean (flush) almost everything.







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Thanks
 
R

Rock

Thanks foryour input, I believe you that it doesn't hurt to leave
unused entries, but I thought logically speaking it would be good to
compact the registry to make it less cumbersome, no?

There is no direct info to suggest compacting the registry causes any
performance improvement. There is a utility called NTRegOpt by the author
of ERUNT that compacts the registry by removing empty space, but not by
removing actual entries. It can reduce the size, how much is dependent on
how much has been deleted from the registry over time. I haven't seen any
negative effect from this compaction, but then again, other than a reduction
in size, there is no direct benefit.

There is also no benefit by removing unused entries. Again the registry is
not accessed sequentially, removing a few hundred entries out of the many
thousands that are there will have no impact. If a particular entry is
causing a problem then removing that can help but it can just as much be an
entry that's being used as one orphaned by program removal.

Registry cleaners can be harmful. They are a snake oil remedy. It can make
the user feel good because they cleaned the registry, when in fact it
accomplishes little, if anything. It is a placebo that on the negative side
can cause problems.
 
M

mginat

There is no direct info to suggest compacting the registry causes any
performance improvement. There is a utility called NTRegOpt by the author
of ERUNT that compacts the registry by removing empty space, but not by
removing actual entries. It can reduce the size, how much is dependent on
how much has been deleted from the registry over time. I haven't seen any
negative effect from this compaction, but then again, other than a reduction
in size, there is no direct benefit.

There is also no benefit by removing unused entries. Again the registry is
not accessed sequentially, removing a few hundred entries out of the many
thousands that are there will have no impact. If a particular entry is
causing a problem then removing that can help but it can just as much be an
entry that's being used as one orphaned by program removal.

Registry cleaners can be harmful. They are a snake oil remedy. It can make
the user feel good because they cleaned the registry, when in fact it
accomplishes little, if anything. It is a placebo that on the negative side
can cause problems.

wow that's amazing considering all the products out there, how do they
get away with it?
 
M

mginat

There is no direct info to suggest compacting the registry causes any
performance improvement. There is a utility called NTRegOpt by the author
of ERUNT that compacts the registry by removing empty space, but not by
removing actual entries. It can reduce the size, how much is dependent on
how much has been deleted from the registry over time. I haven't seen any
negative effect from this compaction, but then again, other than a reduction
in size, there is no direct benefit.

There is also no benefit by removing unused entries. Again the registry is
not accessed sequentially, removing a few hundred entries out of the many
thousands that are there will have no impact. If a particular entry is
causing a problem then removing that can help but it can just as much be an
entry that's being used as one orphaned by program removal.

Registry cleaners can be harmful. They are a snake oil remedy. It can make
the user feel good because they cleaned the registry, when in fact it
accomplishes little, if anything. It is a placebo that on the negative side
can cause problems.

thanks again
 
B

Bob I

wow that's amazing considering all the products out there, how do they
get away with it?

Unless they are really blatant and use patently false advertising, no
one really does much about it. Occasionally they will get sued and have
to provide refunds. Look around at all the semi bogus claims for many
useless products out there, and read the fine print. Weight loss
products, gas mileage improvers, skin care preparations, the list of
things that part the money from the masses based on a warm fuzzy feeling
seems endless.
 

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