System Restore and 'SYSTEM CHECKPOINTS'

[Guest]

I have WIndows XP and system restore is not automatically creating 'SYSTEM
CHECKPOINTS' as it apparently is supposed to do and as my Windows ME does.
Does anyone know why? Is there something I must do to have XP do this
automatically without me having to do it manually?

 

[Bert Kinney]

Hi Gman,

Use the Event Viewer to investigate System Restore service errors. To
do this, follow these steps:

* Go to Start - Run and type eventvwr.msc and press enter.
* Click the Source tab to sort by name, look for "sr" and
"srservice." Double-click each of these services, and evaluate the
event description for any indication of the cause of the problem. Make
note of the Description, EventID and Source of these Event Properties
that show an Error or Warning, and post them here.

System Restore fails to create an automatic restore point
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/body_srauto.html

 

[Guest]

Hi, Bert,

Thanks for the info. I can create restore points manually and can get the
task schedule feature to pop up the restore box when I want, such as at start
up or log in. Also, I can restore successfully. I checked the event viewer
and there is nothing there except that restore points were created by the
system when I installed a couple of software programs in the last few days.

You indicate that automatic restore points will not be created if the system
is not idle. Does the system decide to create an automatic check point at a
p[articular time or after a certain amount of idle time?

The other odd thing I noted with restore is that when one is typing in a
name for a restore point, but maybe wants to change something or correct
spelling, the cursor cannot highlight anything to delete, copy, etc. Not a
big deal, just a tad annoying due to inconsistent behavior between features /
programs and use of cursor.

I download a couple of the scripts that were listed, but I am not familiar
with scripts. What do I do now that I have downloaded and saved them to a
folder? LOL

Great website, BTW. Thanks for your help.

gman

 

[Bert Kinney]

Hi,

Hi, Bert,

Thanks for the info. I can create restore points
manually and can get the task schedule feature to pop up
the restore box when I want, such as at start up or log
in. Also, I can restore successfully. I checked the
event viewer and there is nothing there except that
restore points were created by the system when I
installed a couple of software programs in the last few days.

You indicate that automatic restore points will not be
created if the system is not idle. Does the system
decide to create an automatic check point at a
p[articular time or after a certain amount of idle time?

System Restore by default creates an automatic restore point every 24
hours and only when there is sufficient system idle time. If the
system is in use all the time it is turned on, or if there is a
application running that causes no idle time, automatic restore points
will not be created. Screen savers, stand by, or hibernation can also
prevent automatic restore points.

The other odd thing I noted with restore is that when one
is typing in a name for a restore point, but maybe wants
to change something or correct spelling, the cursor
cannot highlight anything to delete, copy, etc. Not a
big deal, just a tad annoying due to inconsistent
behavior between features / programs and use of cursor.

I would suggest ruling out virus and spyware infection.
Virus and Spyware removal and prevention
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/spyware.html

I download a couple of the scripts that were listed, but
I am not familiar with scripts. What do I do now that I
have downloaded and saved them to a folder? LOL

Download the XPSystemRestorePointFrequency.vbs script and remove it
from it's zip file to the desktop. Double click to run it. It will
show the number of hours the system is set to create restore points,
and allow you to change it.

 

[Guest]

Hi, Bert,

Just wanted to inform you that the goofy Restore has now begun to create
automatic restore points without me having done a thing (been very busy and
wanted to wait until I had time to concentrate on problem). Can't understand
why, unless it has something to do with having a password. I did not have a
password before, but the Task Scheduler would not run a System Restore
scheduled task unless I had a password. So, I created one. It appears that
the automatic restore points began being generated around that time. I do
not have any restore task scheduled as it didn't perform the operation
without the restore window popping up and asking me to create a restore
point. Didn't want that; just wanted it to do it without me knowing.

Anyway, I'm getting the points now, but I wanted to report this to you and,
again, thank you for your assistance.

gman

Hi,

Hi, Bert,

Thanks for the info. I can create restore points
manually and can get the task schedule feature to pop up
the restore box when I want, such as at start up or log
in. Also, I can restore successfully. I checked the
event viewer and there is nothing there except that
restore points were created by the system when I
installed a couple of software programs in the last few days.

You indicate that automatic restore points will not be
created if the system is not idle. Does the system
decide to create an automatic check point at a
p[articular time or after a certain amount of idle time?

System Restore by default creates an automatic restore point every 24
hours and only when there is sufficient system idle time. If the
system is in use all the time it is turned on, or if there is a
application running that causes no idle time, automatic restore points
will not be created. Screen savers, stand by, or hibernation can also
prevent automatic restore points.

The other odd thing I noted with restore is that when one
is typing in a name for a restore point, but maybe wants
to change something or correct spelling, the cursor
cannot highlight anything to delete, copy, etc. Not a
big deal, just a tad annoying due to inconsistent
behavior between features / programs and use of cursor.

I would suggest ruling out virus and spyware infection.
Virus and Spyware removal and prevention
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/spyware.html

I download a couple of the scripts that were listed, but
I am not familiar with scripts. What do I do now that I
have downloaded and saved them to a folder? LOL

Download the XPSystemRestorePointFrequency.vbs script and remove it
from it's zip file to the desktop. Double click to run it. It will
show the number of hours the system is set to create restore points,
and allow you to change it.

Great website, BTW. Thanks for your help.

 

[Bert Kinney]

Hi Gman,

Thanks for the feedback. One question, what exactly did you password
protect?


--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/

Hi, Bert,

Just wanted to inform you that the goofy Restore has now
begun to create automatic restore points without me
having done a thing (been very busy and wanted to wait
until I had time to concentrate on problem). Can't
understand why, unless it has something to do with having
a password. I did not have a password before, but the
Task Scheduler would not run a System Restore scheduled
task unless I had a password. So, I created one. It
appears that the automatic restore points began being
generated around that time. I do not have any restore
task scheduled as it didn't perform the operation without
the restore window popping up and asking me to create a
restore point. Didn't want that; just wanted it to do it
without me knowing.

Anyway, I'm getting the points now, but I wanted to
report this to you and, again, thank you for your
assistance.

gman

Hi,

Hi, Bert,

Thanks for the info. I can create restore points
manually and can get the task schedule feature to pop up
the restore box when I want, such as at start up or log
in. Also, I can restore successfully. I checked the
event viewer and there is nothing there except that
restore points were created by the system when I
installed a couple of software programs in the last few
days.

You indicate that automatic restore points will not be
created if the system is not idle. Does the system
decide to create an automatic check point at a
p[articular time or after a certain amount of idle time?

System Restore by default creates an automatic restore
point every 24 hours and only when there is sufficient
system idle time. If the system is in use all the time
it is turned on, or if there is a application running
that causes no idle time, automatic restore points will
not be created. Screen savers, stand by, or hibernation
can also prevent automatic restore points.

The other odd thing I noted with restore is that when
one
is typing in a name for a restore point, but maybe wants
to change something or correct spelling, the cursor
cannot highlight anything to delete, copy, etc. Not a
big deal, just a tad annoying due to inconsistent
behavior between features / programs and use of cursor.

I would suggest ruling out virus and spyware infection.
Virus and Spyware removal and prevention
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/spyware.html

I download a couple of the scripts that were listed, but
I am not familiar with scripts. What do I do now that I
have downloaded and saved them to a folder? LOL

Download the XPSystemRestorePointFrequency.vbs script
and remove it from it's zip file to the desktop. Double
click to run it. It will show the number of hours the
system is set to create restore points, and allow you to
change it.

Great website, BTW. Thanks for your help.


:
Hi Gman,

Use the Event Viewer to investigate System Restore
service errors. To do this, follow these steps:

* Go to Start - Run and type eventvwr.msc and press
enter.
* Click the Source tab to sort by name, look for
"sr" and "srservice." Double-click each of these
services, and evaluate the event description for any
indication of the cause of the problem. Make note of
the Description, EventID and Source of these Event
Properties that show an Error or Warning, and post
them here.

System Restore fails to create an automatic restore
point
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/body_srauto.html

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/


gman wrote:
I have WIndows XP and system restore is not
automatically creating 'SYSTEM CHECKPOINTS' as it
apparently is supposed to do and as my Windows ME
does.
Does anyone know why? Is there something I must do to
have XP do this automatically without me having to do
it manually?

 

[Guest]

Hey, Bert.

When I was trying to SET UP the automatic System Restore feature to create
restore points automatically (such as when I logged in), XP would not let me
do it because it would ask for a password, which I didn't have. So, I
created one, which I now must type in every time I turn on the computer.
Once I did that, I could use the feature. I still don't understand why I had
to do this. Maybe it has something to do with Administrator rights. I am
not connected to a network.

Microsoft says XP is supposed to be better than ME, but I just do not find
that to be the case. I never run out of system resources with ME, and I have
a ton more stuff on that hard drive and using resources. The only single
thing I find more efficient about XP is the download speed for dialup
internet. It is definitely faster than ME, but that might be a funtion of IE
6 as I have IE 5.5 on my ME drive.

I guess I prefer things to be kept as simple as possible as that is, more
often than not, more efficient and less frustrating for the average home
user. Administrator rights? My Lord, how silly for most people, it seems.

Thanks for your imput as always.

gman

Hi Gman,

Thanks for the feedback. One question, what exactly did you password
protect?


--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/

Hi, Bert,

Just wanted to inform you that the goofy Restore has now
begun to create automatic restore points without me
having done a thing (been very busy and wanted to wait
until I had time to concentrate on problem). Can't
understand why, unless it has something to do with having
a password. I did not have a password before, but the
Task Scheduler would not run a System Restore scheduled
task unless I had a password. So, I created one. It
appears that the automatic restore points began being
generated around that time. I do not have any restore
task scheduled as it didn't perform the operation without
the restore window popping up and asking me to create a
restore point. Didn't want that; just wanted it to do it
without me knowing.

Anyway, I'm getting the points now, but I wanted to
report this to you and, again, thank you for your
assistance.

gman

Hi,

gman wrote:
Hi, Bert,

Thanks for the info. I can create restore points
manually and can get the task schedule feature to pop up
the restore box when I want, such as at start up or log
in. Also, I can restore successfully. I checked the
event viewer and there is nothing there except that
restore points were created by the system when I
installed a couple of software programs in the last few
days.

You indicate that automatic restore points will not be
created if the system is not idle. Does the system
decide to create an automatic check point at a
p[articular time or after a certain amount of idle time?

System Restore by default creates an automatic restore
point every 24 hours and only when there is sufficient
system idle time. If the system is in use all the time
it is turned on, or if there is a application running
that causes no idle time, automatic restore points will
not be created. Screen savers, stand by, or hibernation
can also prevent automatic restore points.

The other odd thing I noted with restore is that when
one
is typing in a name for a restore point, but maybe wants
to change something or correct spelling, the cursor
cannot highlight anything to delete, copy, etc. Not a
big deal, just a tad annoying due to inconsistent
behavior between features / programs and use of cursor.

I would suggest ruling out virus and spyware infection.
Virus and Spyware removal and prevention
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/spyware.html

I download a couple of the scripts that were listed, but
I am not familiar with scripts. What do I do now that I
have downloaded and saved them to a folder? LOL

Download the XPSystemRestorePointFrequency.vbs script
and remove it from it's zip file to the desktop. Double
click to run it. It will show the number of hours the
system is set to create restore points, and allow you to
change it.

Great website, BTW. Thanks for your help.


:
Hi Gman,

Use the Event Viewer to investigate System Restore
service errors. To do this, follow these steps:

* Go to Start - Run and type eventvwr.msc and press
enter.
* Click the Source tab to sort by name, look for
"sr" and "srservice." Double-click each of these
services, and evaluate the event description for any
indication of the cause of the problem. Make note of
the Description, EventID and Source of these Event
Properties that show an Error or Warning, and post
them here.

System Restore fails to create an automatic restore
point
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/body_srauto.html

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/


gman wrote:
I have WIndows XP and system restore is not
automatically creating 'SYSTEM CHECKPOINTS' as it
apparently is supposed to do and as my Windows ME
does.
Does anyone know why? Is there something I must do to
have XP do this automatically without me having to do
it manually?

 

[Bert Kinney]

One more question Gman, when you say "I was trying to SET UP the
automatic System Restore
feature" are you referring to setting up SR in Scheduled Tasks?

As far as System Recourses go, my experience is just the opposite.
Run Process Explorer and take a look at all the running processes and
if any one of them is taking up more cpu time than normal.
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml

You will also want to look at the Startup Tab in msconfig and see what
application are starting. Some apps may be able to be removed from the
Startup Tab.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/

Hey, Bert.

When I was trying to SET UP the automatic System Restore
feature to create restore points automatically (such as
when I logged in), XP would not let me do it because it
would ask for a password, which I didn't have. So, I
created one, which I now must type in every time I turn
on the computer. Once I did that, I could use the
feature. I still don't understand why I had to do this.
Maybe it has something to do with Administrator rights.
I am not connected to a network.

Microsoft says XP is supposed to be better than ME, but I
just do not find that to be the case. I never run out of
system resources with ME, and I have a ton more stuff on
that hard drive and using resources. The only single
thing I find more efficient about XP is the download
speed for dialup internet. It is definitely faster than
ME, but that might be a funtion of IE 6 as I have IE 5.5
on my ME drive.

I guess I prefer things to be kept as simple as possible
as that is, more often than not, more efficient and less
frustrating for the average home user. Administrator
rights? My Lord, how silly for most people, it seems.

Thanks for your imput as always.

gman

Hi Gman,

Thanks for the feedback. One question, what exactly did
you password protect?


--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/

Hi, Bert,

Just wanted to inform you that the goofy Restore has now
begun to create automatic restore points without me
having done a thing (been very busy and wanted to wait
until I had time to concentrate on problem). Can't
understand why, unless it has something to do with
having a password. I did not have a password before,
but the Task Scheduler would not run a System Restore
scheduled task unless I had a password. So, I created
one. It appears that the automatic restore points
began being generated around that time. I do not have
any restore task scheduled as it didn't perform the
operation without the restore window popping up and
asking me to create a restore point. Didn't want that;
just wanted it to do it without me knowing.

Anyway, I'm getting the points now, but I wanted to
report this to you and, again, thank you for your
assistance.

gman

:

Hi,

gman wrote:
Hi, Bert,

Thanks for the info. I can create restore points
manually and can get the task schedule feature to pop
up the restore box when I want, such as at start up
or log in. Also, I can restore successfully. I
checked the event viewer and there is nothing there
except that restore points were created by the system
when I installed a couple of software programs in the
last few days.

You indicate that automatic restore points will not be
created if the system is not idle. Does the system
decide to create an automatic check point at a
p[articular time or after a certain amount of idle
time?

System Restore by default creates an automatic restore
point every 24 hours and only when there is sufficient
system idle time. If the system is in use all the time
it is turned on, or if there is a application running
that causes no idle time, automatic restore points will
not be created. Screen savers, stand by, or hibernation
can also prevent automatic restore points.

The other odd thing I noted with restore is that when
one
is typing in a name for a restore point, but maybe
wants to change something or correct spelling, the
cursor cannot highlight anything to delete, copy,
etc. Not a big deal, just a tad annoying due to
inconsistent behavior between features / programs and
use of cursor.

I would suggest ruling out virus and spyware infection.
Virus and Spyware removal and prevention
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/spyware.html

I download a couple of the scripts that were listed,
but I am not familiar with scripts. What do I do now
that I have downloaded and saved them to a folder?
LOL

Download the XPSystemRestorePointFrequency.vbs script
and remove it from it's zip file to the desktop. Double
click to run it. It will show the number of hours the
system is set to create restore points, and allow you
to change it.

Great website, BTW. Thanks for your help.


:
Hi Gman,

Use the Event Viewer to investigate System Restore
service errors. To do this, follow these steps:

* Go to Start - Run and type eventvwr.msc and
press enter.
* Click the Source tab to sort by name, look for
"sr" and "srservice." Double-click each of these
services, and evaluate the event description for any
indication of the cause of the problem. Make note of
the Description, EventID and Source of these Event
Properties that show an Error or Warning, and post
them here.

System Restore fails to create an automatic restore
point
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/body_srauto.html

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/


gman wrote:
I have WIndows XP and system restore is not
automatically creating 'SYSTEM CHECKPOINTS' as it
apparently is supposed to do and as my Windows ME
does.
Does anyone know why? Is there something I must do
to have XP do this automatically without me having
to do it manually?

 

[Guest]

Hey, Bert.

Yes, in Scheduled Tasks using the Scheduled Task Wizard. It would not allow
me to use the feature (create a schedule for Restore) unless I created myself
a password (to identify myself as a person with administrator rights, if I
remember correctly). I didn't have a log in password before (as I was the
only one using my computer), but that didn't stop me from using XP. So, as I
said, I created a password, which I must type in now to get past that Windows
screen (I think it is the User Screen) right before the desktop appears.

Sorry, but I am not one to remember all the exact names for the different
features.

I have aStartup Manager program that I downloaded for ME and used it to shut
down so stuff. I need to do the same with XP. I looked at msconfig and it
seemed to me that there were a lot of processes running relative to ME. I
thought that odd as I have less installed by far on XP drive than the ME
drive. Xp drive is rather barren acutally, other than Office, a couple of
image editors, firewall, dictionary, scanner software and battery backup
monitoring software.

Thanks again for you help.

gman

One more question Gman, when you say "I was trying to SET UP the
automatic System Restore
feature" are you referring to setting up SR in Scheduled Tasks?

As far as System Recourses go, my experience is just the opposite.
Run Process Explorer and take a look at all the running processes and
if any one of them is taking up more cpu time than normal.
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml

You will also want to look at the Startup Tab in msconfig and see what
application are starting. Some apps may be able to be removed from the
Startup Tab.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/

Hey, Bert.

When I was trying to SET UP the automatic System Restore
feature to create restore points automatically (such as
when I logged in), XP would not let me do it because it
would ask for a password, which I didn't have. So, I
created one, which I now must type in every time I turn
on the computer. Once I did that, I could use the
feature. I still don't understand why I had to do this.
Maybe it has something to do with Administrator rights.
I am not connected to a network.

Microsoft says XP is supposed to be better than ME, but I
just do not find that to be the case. I never run out of
system resources with ME, and I have a ton more stuff on
that hard drive and using resources. The only single
thing I find more efficient about XP is the download
speed for dialup internet. It is definitely faster than
ME, but that might be a funtion of IE 6 as I have IE 5.5
on my ME drive.

I guess I prefer things to be kept as simple as possible
as that is, more often than not, more efficient and less
frustrating for the average home user. Administrator
rights? My Lord, how silly for most people, it seems.

Thanks for your imput as always.

gman

Hi Gman,

Thanks for the feedback. One question, what exactly did
you password protect?


--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/


gman wrote:
Hi, Bert,

Just wanted to inform you that the goofy Restore has now
begun to create automatic restore points without me
having done a thing (been very busy and wanted to wait
until I had time to concentrate on problem). Can't
understand why, unless it has something to do with
having a password. I did not have a password before,
but the Task Scheduler would not run a System Restore
scheduled task unless I had a password. So, I created
one. It appears that the automatic restore points
began being generated around that time. I do not have
any restore task scheduled as it didn't perform the
operation without the restore window popping up and
asking me to create a restore point. Didn't want that;
just wanted it to do it without me knowing.

Anyway, I'm getting the points now, but I wanted to
report this to you and, again, thank you for your
assistance.

gman

:

Hi,

gman wrote:
Hi, Bert,

Thanks for the info. I can create restore points
manually and can get the task schedule feature to pop
up the restore box when I want, such as at start up
or log in. Also, I can restore successfully. I
checked the event viewer and there is nothing there
except that restore points were created by the system
when I installed a couple of software programs in the
last few days.

You indicate that automatic restore points will not be
created if the system is not idle. Does the system
decide to create an automatic check point at a
p[articular time or after a certain amount of idle
time?

System Restore by default creates an automatic restore
point every 24 hours and only when there is sufficient
system idle time. If the system is in use all the time
it is turned on, or if there is a application running
that causes no idle time, automatic restore points will
not be created. Screen savers, stand by, or hibernation
can also prevent automatic restore points.

The other odd thing I noted with restore is that when
one
is typing in a name for a restore point, but maybe
wants to change something or correct spelling, the
cursor cannot highlight anything to delete, copy,
etc. Not a big deal, just a tad annoying due to
inconsistent behavior between features / programs and
use of cursor.

I would suggest ruling out virus and spyware infection.
Virus and Spyware removal and prevention
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/spyware.html

I download a couple of the scripts that were listed,
but I am not familiar with scripts. What do I do now
that I have downloaded and saved them to a folder?
LOL

Download the XPSystemRestorePointFrequency.vbs script
and remove it from it's zip file to the desktop. Double
click to run it. It will show the number of hours the
system is set to create restore points, and allow you
to change it.

Great website, BTW. Thanks for your help.


:
Hi Gman,

Use the Event Viewer to investigate System Restore
service errors. To do this, follow these steps:

* Go to Start - Run and type eventvwr.msc and
press enter.
* Click the Source tab to sort by name, look for
"sr" and "srservice." Double-click each of these
services, and evaluate the event description for any
indication of the cause of the problem. Make note of
the Description, EventID and Source of these Event
Properties that show an Error or Warning, and post
them here.

System Restore fails to create an automatic restore
point
http://home.earthlink.net/~mvp_bert/html/body_srauto.html

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://dts-l.org/


gman wrote:
I have WIndows XP and system restore is not
automatically creating 'SYSTEM CHECKPOINTS' as it
apparently is supposed to do and as my Windows ME
does.
Does anyone know why? Is there something I must do
to have XP do this automatically without me having
to do it manually?