survalance cameras

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Des

Hi I was looking at this

TL-SC3171G
http://www.tp-link.com/lk/products/details/?model=TL-SC3171G#app

The way this is installed and used is a bit vague do I need software to runon my PC to allow me to watch? My PC has a wireless adapter on my PC TL-WN821N. Also I am supposed to be able to watch it on an iPhone does the camera have its own website? Can this be watched on any mobile phone with internet capability?

This is a grey area for me.
 
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SC Tom

Des said:
Hi I was looking at this

TL-SC3171G
http://www.tp-link.com/lk/products/details/?model=TL-SC3171G#app

The way this is installed and used is a bit vague do I need software to
run on my PC to allow me to watch? My PC has a wireless adapter on my PC
TL-WN821N. Also I am supposed to be able to watch it on an iPhone does the
camera have its own website? Can this be watched on any mobile phone with
internet capability?

This is a grey area for me.

If you'll read the user manual available here
<http://www.tp-link.com/lk/support/download/?model=TL-SC3171G&version=V1#tbl_doc>
you'll see that there is a software CD included with the camera.
 
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Paul

Des said:
Hi I was looking at this

TL-SC3171G
http://www.tp-link.com/lk/products/details/?model=TL-SC3171G#app

The way this is installed and used is a bit vague do I need software to
run on my PC to allow me to watch? My PC has a wireless adapter on my
PC TL-WN821N. Also I am supposed to be able to watch it on an iPhone
does the camera have its own website? Can this be watched on any
mobile phone with internet capability?

This is a grey area for me.

You can see, via the user manual, it has a web server inside.

http://www.tp-link.com/resources/software/201111814222213.pdf

http://192.168.1.100

I'm the kind of person, I'd be careful about the software they
offer. But some of it may be unavoidable. For example, if
you connect to the camera with Internet Explorer, the camera
will offer an ActiveX plugin to the computer. (The ActiveX
plugin, is stored inside the camera, and offered to any
authenticated Internet Explorer session.)

Depending on the chosen output format of the camera,
you may need to add a CODEC to your system. But the
CODEC file may be coming from other than TPLink.

I'm just concerned about adding anything to a computer,
which might compromise it.

Within the confines of your own home, I don't see a problem
playing with various viewing options (iPhone). But if you
expect to view the camera remotely, sitting in a Starbucks
drinking your coffee, that would require doing Port Forwarding
on your home router, so that the camera web server can be
seen from Starbucks. And then, your only protection from
hackers, is a username and password. And if hackers send
username/password 24/7/365, eventually they'll break in and
be viewing the camera output themselves. And then you'll need
to push the reset button on the camera, and start all over again.
(That is, if they haven't loaded their own firmware into it etc.)

And considering the data limits on phones (megabytes per month),
you wouldn't need to look at too much of that kind of video,
before exceeding the limit.

So I'd be a little careful, about how you set up viewing
outside the home. But inside your home, on your own LAN behind
the router, you can do what you like. (No Port Forwarding, means
no hackers knocking at the door.)

The camera may have other options, beside real time video.
It may be able to take snapshots. And maybe you could have
your home computer, email a snapshot to the iPhone. So there
may be other protocol options available, with some significant
setup work. And that's why you read that manual, to get some
ideas.

Paul
 
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Flasherly

Hi I was looking at this

TL-SC3171Ghttp://www.tp-link.com/lk/products/details/?model=TL-SC3171G#app

The way this is installed and used is a bit vague do I need software to run on my PC to allow me to watch? My PC has a wireless adapter on my PC TL-WN821N. Also I am supposed to be able to watch it on an iPhone does the camera have its own website? Can this be watched on any mobile phone with internet capability?

This is a grey area for me.

Great stuff if into surveillance. Same as a PC aftermarket, values to
be reaped from running a crux of the world's businesses on automated
systems. Did you know that, on average in the private field, the cost
of computer systems is driven at three- to fivefold budget increase,
over equipment life, by IT support, and that they're really all a
bunch of unofficial cat-herders making between $70-200K/US yearly.
Same reason it's vague, because of positioning in an aftermarket --
which could be leftover gear the included specialist didn't use when
he just finished a suite of cameras for the new $2M/US security system
in a Las Vegas gambling-hall contract. Could ask them if they know
him, though.
 
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RayLopez99

Good company (Cisco owned, though I think they spun it off this year).
You can see, via the user manual, it has a web server inside.



http://www.tp-link.com/resources/software/201111814222213.pdf

Yes. I've installed many a similar system for home security. As you know you can also FTP a series of snapshots, often motion activated, to a website for storage.
http://192.168.1.100



I'm the kind of person, I'd be careful about the software they

offer. But some of it may be unavoidable. For example, if

you connect to the camera with Internet Explorer, the camera

will offer an ActiveX plugin to the computer. (The ActiveX

plugin, is stored inside the camera, and offered to any

authenticated Internet Explorer session.)

Yes, true.
I'm just concerned about adding anything to a computer,

which might compromise it.



Within the confines of your own home, I don't see a problem

playing with various viewing options (iPhone). But if you

expect to view the camera remotely, sitting in a Starbucks

drinking your coffee, that would require doing Port Forwarding

on your home router, so that the camera web server can be

seen from Starbucks. And then, your only protection from

hackers, is a username and password. And if hackers send

username/password 24/7/365, eventually they'll break in and

be viewing the camera output themselves. And then you'll need

to push the reset button on the camera, and start all over again.

(That is, if they haven't loaded their own firmware into it etc.)

Yes, true. But most hackers prefer a soft target where the user has set "PASSWORD" or "123456" as the password. I doubt they will spend time and money trying to crack an eight to ten digit mixed case password just to watch images of the outside of your house. But if it's a bedroom camera to a beautiful girl...maybe that will make a difference, though these days you can get that for free at free porn sites anyway.
And considering the data limits on phones (megabytes per month),

you wouldn't need to look at too much of that kind of video,

before exceeding the limit.

Right. I see you are talking about video, I agree. For photos, especiallymotion activated photos at night, you'll not have much bandwidth to waste.

The camera may have other options, beside real time video.

It may be able to take snapshots. And maybe you could have

your home computer, email a snapshot to the iPhone. So there

may be other protocol options available, with some significant

setup work. And that's why you read that manual, to get some

ideas.

It's not hard to do, anybody can do it, but there's a learning curve.

RL
 
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Paul

RayLopez99 said:
Good company (Cisco owned, though I think they spun it off this year).

According to this, TPLink is Chinese, and "privately held".
End users like them, because they copy reference designs, and
sell them for less money than the competition. You get what
you pay for. (I've bought some of their products.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tplink

Cisco wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Purely for
legal exposure (suddenly getting sued, as soon as the
company was bought). You might be thinking of the
purchase of Linksys years ago.

Paul
 
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RayLopez99

Great stuff if into surveillance. Same as a PC aftermarket, values to

be reaped from running a crux of the world's businesses on automated

systems. Did you know that, on average in the private field, the cost

of computer systems is driven at three- to fivefold budget increase,

over equipment life, by IT support, and that they're really all a

bunch of unofficial cat-herders making between $70-200K/US yearly.

Same reason it's vague, because of positioning in an aftermarket --

which could be leftover gear the included specialist didn't use when

he just finished a suite of cameras for the new $2M/US security system

in a Las Vegas gambling-hall contract. Could ask them if they know

him, though.

Well economists say whatever productivity increases we've had in the USA and UK over the last 20 years were due to 'puters, so let's not be too down on IT guys--though I admit some of them come across as DeVry community college graduates rather than real C.Sci. software/hardware graduates.

RL
 
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Flasherly

Well economists say whatever productivity increases we've had in the USA and UK over the last 20 years were due to 'puters, so let's not be too downon IT guys--though I admit some of them come across as DeVry community college graduates rather than real C.Sci. software/hardware graduates.

RL

Not really fair, one's I know were entry at $35K, but with other
considerations to say the least -- actually, heads too, so not so sure
what's it's topping to, probably in the "private" entry point of
$75K;- and, latter is dated material for this dog eat dog economy.
Nothing particularly upscale roundabouts C.Sci. Depts. either where
I'm coming from -- strictly one tight-lipped bureaucratic office of
Official Cat Herders. When I say that, it's with a mind to even worse
environments than I can imagine. People, a good many, anyway, know to
turn the things on, punch some keys just like they're told to,
tantamount to no more than spelling out any other derogatory 4-letter
word resembling work. They're certainly not there to make IT a happy
lot, as IT is well-aware. In fact, the first quote I saw affixed to
an electronic signature, in a forum, was probably from IT: "Users are
to be kept in the dark, and never, ever, watered." (A spin off an 80's
Hollywood film - Goonies). Far from it -- I've sold enough computers
to people who come back trying to milk me for everything they can in
the way of support for never having to lift a finger or ever learning
anything. "Oh. I assumed, only quite naturally you see, that your
generosity in selling me my very first astounding computer, wholesale
on parts-cost, as well included a free service contract. Forever and
ever."

-
Doc Holliday: [taunting a card player who believes Holliday is
cheating him] Why Ed does this mean we're not friends anymore? You
know Ed, if I thought you weren't my friend... I just don't think I
could bear it! -Tombstone (1993)
 

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