Stolen Vista PC

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My wife's notebook running Vista was recently stolen and I was wondering if
there is a way to remotely "deactivate" the license key for the PC so that
the Windows Vista installation on the PC will not be associated with
us...Could it be deactivated so it will not operate?
 
????? said:
My wife's notebook running Vista was recently stolen and I was wondering
if
there is a way to remotely "deactivate" the license key for the PC so that
the Windows Vista installation on the PC will not be associated with
us...Could it be deactivated so it will not operate?


Unless you subscribed to a 3rd party service, such as one that disables the
machine etc when you report it stolen, there isn't much you can do.
IMO the biggest problem you have is personal information being on the drive
& getting into the wrong hands.

I make a point of always encrypting laptop computers...and most desktops for
that matter & Bitlocker makes that very easy for those new to hard disk
encryption.

I never "register" windows either, just activate it.
 
On 6/4/2007 2:01 PM On a whim, ????? pounded out on the keyboard
My wife's notebook running Vista was recently stolen and I was wondering if
there is a way to remotely "deactivate" the license key for the PC so that
the Windows Vista installation on the PC will not be associated with
us...Could it be deactivated so it will not operate?

Remotely? I doubt it. You could call the manufacturer and have them
list it stolen. A Service Code could possibly be traced if the thief let
the auto-update from the manufacturer connect (like Dell's alert).

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Terry R.

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????? said:
My wife's notebook running Vista was recently stolen and I was wondering
if
there is a way to remotely "deactivate" the license key for the PC so that
the Windows Vista installation on the PC will not be associated with
us...Could it be deactivated so it will not operate?

No. In fact there really is no way to "de-activate" a key. the best that can
be done is to re-activate on another system providing the version of Vista
is not an OEM. You still need access to the system to do that though.
 
My wife's notebook running Vista was recently stolen and I was wondering if
there is a way to remotely "deactivate" the license key for the PC so that
the Windows Vista installation on the PC will not be associated with
us...Could it be deactivated so it will not operate?

i thought the activatoin is associated with hardware only?
 
i thought the activatoin is associated with hardware only?

It is. The only way that a system can be tracked back to an individual is by
the information contained on the hard drive or the manufacturers serial
number on the computer. Activation does not collect and store any personal
information.
 
If you still have the key, post it far and wide on the internet, along with
the version of Windows it's for.

If enough people use it, THEN they'll deactivate it.

Micro$oft could easily implement some sort of tracking, or at least
disabling, of stolen computers, but until they lose a couple hundred dollars
out of their profit of billions, they won't bother.

It won't get your laptop back, but at least you can deny them use of the OS
that came with it. Better than nothing.

Who knows? If this starts a trend, perhaps Microsoft will pay attention to
their customers for once. People will name their children after you if you
can swing that! heh

CS
 
CS

Give us a break and try to have at least one coherent thought before
posting!

What has the installed operating system have to do with being responsible
for a lost computer? Maybe McAfee and Norton should share the
responsibility, if their software was on that system.

<sheesh>
 
Ronnie Vernon MVP said:
CS

Give us a break and try to have at least one coherent thought before
posting!

What has the installed operating system have to do with being responsible
for a lost computer? Maybe McAfee and Norton should share the
responsibility, if their software was on that system.

<sheesh>

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

Perhaps if you put as much effort into reading posts as you do thinking up
highly impressive titles to put on your newsgroup posts you would find
things easier to comprehend.

However, in the interest of public service, I will try to make my posts
easier to understand. Please, read slowly and carefully.

Microsoft has implimented an activation scheme to keep people from copying
and using their latest Windows OS. Should two (possibly more) computers log
on to the internet to activate the OS using the same key, Microsoft can and
will refuse to activate OS's attempting to use that key.

Still with me?

This being the case, it would be a very minor effort to refuse to activate
that key, and even remove the activation of the OS, for other
transgressions, such as a stolen computer, on which only that key will work.

This would have the effect of reducing the value of the stolen item, so that
1) thieves would realize a smaller profit from selling it, 2) thieves would
be unable to use it without aquiring another OS, creating more effort on
their part, and 3) making the item in question a less attractive target.

Granted, this wouldn't be as nifty as having the thieves go to prison,
having the computer returned to it's rightful owner, and a shower of fresh
roses cascading over a waterfall.

It would be better than the present system, where the thieves, as well as
those who receive the stolen goods, continue to benefit from patches, fixes,
and upgrades, as well as continued full use of the product they aquired
illegally.

Certainly, it would cost Microsoft a little extra to add the code and the
resources to make this system work, but since crooks are typically lazy, and
thus are unlikely to have the desire to install and learn linux, DR DOS,
Unix, or some other funky OS, they're desire to steal something they can't
use or easily sell may very well be reduced to a point where we see a
decrease in theft of computers, most notably laptops.

Even if it didn't work as well as I describe, Microsoft would be able to use
this system in their sales brochures, possibly increasing their profit.

There are systems very much like this in other areas, such as cell phones
and modern police radios. If either of these get stolen, the cell phone
company or dispatcher/repeater operator, respectively, can disable said item
remotely, making it nothing more than a chunk of useless hardware.

Since Microsoft doesn't worry about theft and loss, unless it's theft and
loss from Microsoft, they haven't bothered to emplace a system such as this.

This is why I suggested the OP post the Windows key around the internet.
Let everybody have it. After all, he (or his friend) paid for it. Other
people will use it, either through piracy or because they lost their's, and
eventually Microsoft will kill it, so that the thieves will at least be
inconvenienced to some extent.

The idea here is that, while it won't make a profound change in lifestyle to
the crooked souls, it would, at a minimum, reduce their ill-gotten gains by
some degree, which is better than nothing.

As for Mcafee and Norton, I'd be pleased as punch if they would remember
their software is meant to be used as a utility, so that other work may be
performed on computers. Seems they believe the only reason people buy
computers is to run their bloated, try-to-do-everything-but-nothing-well
software.

More to the point, Microsoft's software is required for the vast majority of
PC users, while Mcafee's and Norton's is most certainly not.

Was that coherent enough for you, or should I send some pictures, graphs,
and a Powerpoint presentation?

;-)

CS
 
LOL. I guess you are lost in your coherent thinking.

You think a thief that steals a computer steals it for the Operating System or what is installed in a computer. Think again. It has been shown that a person that steals a laptop\notebook usually sells it for money with a cleaned up HD. Not all but the majority .
 
"Micro$oft could easily implement some sort of tracking,"
NO, absolutely NOT.
And I doubt it will ever happen.
This is a horrible idea at best.
The people that are concerned about privacy would be all over
Microsoft for this invasion of privacy.

If you want that feature, there are 3rd party products for just that
purpose.
 
LOL. I guess you are lost in your coherent thinking.

You think a thief that steals a computer steals it for the Operating System
or what is installed in a computer. Think again. It has been shown that a
person that steals a laptop\notebook usually sells it for money with a
cleaned up HD. Not all but the majority .
~~~~~~~~~~~
Thieves clean up the HD? I'd like to see where this is shown. The whole
point of being a thief is the benefits package, which is primaraly the
chance to be lazy. Even private sellers of computers rarely clean up their
drives.

CS
 
Jupiter Jones said:
"Micro$oft could easily implement some sort of tracking,"
NO, absolutely NOT.
And I doubt it will ever happen.
This is a horrible idea at best.
The people that are concerned about privacy would be all over Microsoft
for this invasion of privacy.

You don't think they do tracking now? heh

Ok, the tracking part wouldn't be a great hit, but having it as an option,
for those of us who already know there's no such thing as privacy anymore,
wouldn't be much of a killjoy, and the rest of the issues I mention stand.
They could still kill the OS remotely for reasons other than Them loosing
money.
If you want that feature, there are 3rd party products for just that
purpose.

True. I wish I knew how well they worked.

CS
 
Perhaps if you put as much effort into reading posts as you do thinking up
highly impressive titles to put on your newsgroup posts you would find
things easier to comprehend.

However, in the interest of public service, I will try to make my posts
easier to understand. Please, read slowly and carefully.

Microsoft has implimented an activation scheme to keep people from copying
and using their latest Windows OS. Should two (possibly more) computers
log on to the internet to activate the OS using the same key, Microsoft
can and will refuse to activate OS's attempting to use that key.

Still with me?


NOPE. You can very easily activate the same key on two or more different
machines. IF they did what you suggest then every home builder would never
be able to scrap an old machine and build a new machine with their MS
operating system.

This being the case, it would be a very minor effort to refuse to activate
that key, and even remove the activation of the OS, for other
transgressions, such as a stolen computer, on which only that key will
work.


That's what they make BIOS passwords for. In a PROPERLY configured laptop
the original owner would create a BOOT password.

<snip rant>

Try not to blame MS for your lack of knowledge.

Have A Nice Day :)

D
 
CS

Thank you for proving my point.

Your so far into slamming Microsft, at every opportunity, that your thinking
is getting muddled. You need to write your reply and then think about it for
at least 60 seconds before posting.
 
And on most laptops or desktops, I can reset that in a matter of minutes.
But it is better than nothing.
 
Ronnie Vernon MVP said:
CS

Thank you for proving my point.

Your so far into slamming Microsft, at every opportunity, that your
thinking is getting muddled. You need to write your reply and then think
about it for at least 60 seconds before posting.

Good advice. I must bear this in mind as well. And so must everybody.

Right! 60 seconds are UP!
 
And on most laptops or desktops, I can reset that in a matter of minutes.
But it is better than nothing.

For all you road warriors and others that lug around a laptop with
sensitive content if you are worried about the contents of your
computer ever falling into the wrong hands there are at least a couple
companies I'm aware of that offer a means to deactivate meaning wipe
out the contents of your stolen computer remotely.

One such service is Zapeze, which allows you to remotely delete
EVERYTHING from a lost or stolen computer.

It is a subscription service that uses their server which you can log
into which can remotely "zap" your stolen computer once the thief
connects to the Internet. If they don't, tough luck. Still better than
nothing.

http://www.zapeze.com/sales/moreinfo
 
CS

Thank you for proving my point.

Your so far into slamming Microsft, at every opportunity, that your thinking
is getting muddled. You need to write your reply and then think about it for
at least 60 seconds before posting.


Hello... you like most MVPs and fanboys suffer from the inverse
practice where you constantly and blindly defend Microsoft's
boneheaded practices no matter what. I find both groups amusing to
watch.
 
I can assure you that there are ways to track down a computer that activates
itself ... lol

MS does not use it.... but there are ways... as long as you have a way to
discriminate the computer
from all the rest in the world as activation does with the hash, there is a
way to find that computer.

Of course there is one element missing, the connection of that hash with the
individual person who originally had that laptop... but there are ways..
believe me.

Did you know that they can track your location at any point in the world via
your cell phone, even if its closed?
Did you know also that they can even record your voice even if the cell
phone is closed?
No?

You dont even know who can do this, or why they would want to do this,
right?

you are naive... if you were not, you would like vista in the first place.
 

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