Vista Activation transfer

[GeraldF]

Does Vista have a method of verifying activation status
when activation has been transfered to another computer?

I recently built a new system and activated my Retail
Vista License on that machine. Interestingly, the "old"
machine no longer will finish booting it "hangs" shortly
after starting and a network connection never occurs. Is
there some "deactivation" scheme to prevent a user from
running more than one copy of the program?

Not complaining just wanted to know.

 

[Not Me]

No, you will almost surely have to do a phone activation.

 

[Brian Cryer]

Does Vista have a method of verifying activation status
when activation has been transfered to another computer?

I recently built a new system and activated my Retail
Vista License on that machine. Interestingly, the "old"
machine no longer will finish booting it "hangs" shortly
after starting and a network connection never occurs. Is
there some "deactivation" scheme to prevent a user from
running more than one copy of the program?

No idea, but a question for you - is your old machine connected to a LAN on
which your new machine is located? I used to use some software which
complained if it detected another instance on the LAN. It might be that
Microsoft are being clever and doing something similar. Just a guess.

In any event (as you already know) you will need to put a different
operating system or a second instance of Vista on your old pc.

 

[Mike Brannigan]

Does Vista have a method of verifying activation status
when activation has been transfered to another computer?

I recently built a new system and activated my Retail
Vista License on that machine. Interestingly, the "old"
machine no longer will finish booting it "hangs" shortly
after starting and a network connection never occurs. Is
there some "deactivation" scheme to prevent a user from
running more than one copy of the program?

Not complaining just wanted to know.

No - you will have to activate the second install probably by telephone.
Any issues you have with the previous machine are not related to Windows
Product Activation.
Irrespective of your issues with the first machine as you now have your
licensed transferred to eh second machine you MUST remove that licensed copy
of Windows on the first machine and replace it with another properly
licensed operating system or buy a second license for your second PC.

 

[Alias]

No - you will have to activate the second install probably by telephone.

Why? The OP said he activated it already.

Any issues you have with the previous machine are not related to Windows
Product Activation.
Irrespective of your issues with the first machine as you now have your
licensed transferred to eh second machine you MUST remove that licensed
copy of Windows on the first machine and replace it with another
properly licensed operating system or buy a second license for your
second PC.

"Must"? You mean "should", don't you?

Alias

 

[smbdymf]

Why? The OP said he activated it already.

I can't believe your that stupid

"Must"? You mean "should", don't you?

OK, I correct myself, you are that stupid.

 

[John Barnett MVP]

There is no deactivation procedure. You have already activated the copy on
your new machine so that is now the official machine for your copy of Vista.
You should, however, remove the copy of Vista from your old machine.

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[Alias]

I can't believe your that stupid

Having a reading comprehension problem? The OP wrote, and I quote:

"I recently built a new system and activated my Retail Vista License on
that machine."

Oops, you're stupid.

OK, I correct myself, you are that stupid.

You're the stupid one that bends over and takes it up the ass every time
Microsoft asks you to, not me, chum. What's worse, you think you "must"
do it. LOL!

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

OK, I correct myself, you are that stupid.

The only one stupid here is you. (At least as long as Frank or
SpankyClown don't join the conversation.)

Why? Because you call people stupid, yet you are unable to articulate
why you believe they are stupid.

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Kurt
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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[kurttrail]

Why? The OP said he activated it already.


"Must"? You mean "should", don't you?

Alias

No, he meant must. He just regurgitates anything that comes out of MS's
marketing hell. He's just following orders.

Please ignore the virtual concentration camp that is PA. There is
nothing to see here folks, just move along.

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[Frank]

The only one stupid here is you. (At least as long as Frank or
SpankyClown don't join the conversation.)

Why? Because you call people stupid, yet you are unable to articulate
why you believe they are stupid.

hehehe...and all you need do is open your mouth...LOL!
Frank

 

[kurttrail]

hehehe...and all you need do is open your mouth...LOL!
Frank

When have you seen me open my mouth? Does MS Mail visualize your
delusions for you as your read this group?

Now that would be something innovative MS could add to its OS!

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[GeraldF]

There is no deactivation procedure. You have already activated the copy on
your new machine so that is now the official machine for your copy of Vista.
You should, however, remove the copy of Vista from your old machine.

Thanks,

For some reason the old system somehow picked this time
to hang on network startup. I plan on installing Windows
XP and giving the computer to my college daughter, but
it has an Nvidia Sata Controller and I remembered having
a nightmare getting XP installed on it originally, as
the original XP had trouble with nvidea drivers.

The Vista install was easy. If the problem was just an
activation issue we would purchase a new copy and
activate Vista, but it appears to be a system problem.

It's funny, because the only thing changed was the case
and one hard drive. It has the same power supply,
motheboard, memory, C drive and DVD. I can't figure out
why now it seems to hang on installing the network.

 

[Donald McDaniel]

Does Vista have a method of verifying activation status
when activation has been transfered to another computer?

I recently built a new system and activated my Retail
Vista License on that machine. Interestingly, the "old"
machine no longer will finish booting it "hangs" shortly
after starting and a network connection never occurs. Is
there some "deactivation" scheme to prevent a user from
running more than one copy of the program?

Not complaining just wanted to know.

There IS only ONE way to "deactivate" your installation of Vista on your
OLD machine:
_Delete_ it, or _replace_ it with a LICENSED copy of any Windows OS you
desire.

Why? Simple: When you installed your Retail Vista license on the NEW
machine, your rights to use it on the OLD machine were transferred to
the NEW machine. This means that the copy on the OLD machine is NO
LONGER LICENSED!!

ALL Microsoft consumer licenses are for use on a SINGLE MACHINE ONLY!!
If you used the SAME license you installed on the OLD machine to install
it on the NEW machine, your OLD machine is no longer licensed for use.
PERIOD.

If you KEPT the old installation, and also installed it on your NEW
machine, using it on your OLD machine is a BREACH of the License terms.

NOTE 1:
It appears that you have been listening to people who don't know what
they are talking about.
While it USED to be OK to install a Retail copy of _Microsoft_ _Office_
on both your Desktop and your Laptop, it has _NEVER_ been legal to do
this with the _Operating_ _System_ itself. MANY folks are STILL
confusing the EULAs of Windows and Office. They ARE different, I assure
you.
Office=may only be installed and activated on ONE MACHINE at a time.
Windows=may only be installed and activated on ONE Machine at a time.

NOTE 2:
It is NO LONGER legal to install Office on both your desktop and your
laptop. It MUST be installed on ONE or the OTHER, but NOT both.

 

[Donald McDaniel]

No idea, but a question for you - is your old machine connected to a
LAN on which your new machine is located? I used to use some software
which complained if it detected another instance on the LAN. It might
be that Microsoft are being clever and doing something similar. Just a
guess.

Maybe. They are doing their best to make sure users abide by their
EULA.

In any event (as you already know) you will need to put a different
operating system or a second instance of Vista on your old pc.

I MUST correct this:
You say
"...a second instance of Vista..."

Change the words "second instance" to "DIFFERENT LICENSE", and I will
agree, as will MIcrosoft.
Otherwise, you are DEAD wrong.

After all, it is not impossible to install a "second instance" of Vista
using your CURRENT license (of course, such an instance would NOT be
licensed by Microsoft.) It is even possible to activate that instance,
IF you are willing to LIE BIGTIME to the Activation tech.

The second instance would be completely ILLEGAL (not just according to
your license, but according to LAW, and you would be culpable of ROBBING
Microsoft (i.e., you will become a software pirate/thief.)

 

[Donald McDaniel]

I can't believe your that stupid

He means EXACTLY what he said. If you transfer a license, you are
REQUIRED to uninstall the OS from the first machine. This is NOT a
"voluntary" thing, friend. IT is MANDATORY, if you are to correctly
transfer the license

OK, I correct myself, you are that stupid.

Perhaps you should READ your Vista license (EULA) one more time, and
THIS time, read it ALL a little more carefully.

Is Mr. Brannigan "Stupid" or "knows what he is talking about"?
Personally, I believe he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about.

While I won't call you "stupid", I WILL call you "very ignorant" about
Microsoft licensing.

 

[kurttrail]

Maybe. They are doing their best to make sure users abide by their EULA.


I MUST correct this:
You say
"...a second instance of Vista..."

Change the words "second instance" to "DIFFERENT LICENSE", and I will
agree, as will MIcrosoft.
Otherwise, you are DEAD wrong.

After all, it is not impossible to install a "second instance" of Vista
using your CURRENT license (of course, such an instance would NOT be
licensed by Microsoft.) It is even possible to activate that instance,
IF you are willing to LIE BIGTIME to the Activation tech.

The second instance would be completely ILLEGAL (not just according to
your license, but according to LAW, and you would be culpable of ROBBING
Microsoft (i.e., you will become a software pirate/thief.)

Um, like what private home user has ever been charged with theft or
piracy, nevermind convicted, for installing software on a second
computer? What law is being violated?

Are you trying to troll me, because it worked, if that was your
intention, Donald. ;-)

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Kurt
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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[kurttrail]

He means EXACTLY what he said. If you transfer a license, you are
REQUIRED to uninstall the OS from the first machine. This is NOT a
"voluntary" thing, friend. IT is MANDATORY, if you are to correctly
transfer the license

See, I tie my shoes differently than most people, so I'm quite used to
doing things in ways most people don't.

So sue me.

Perhaps you should READ your Vista license (EULA) one more time, and
THIS time, read it ALL a little more carefully.

Is Mr. Brannigan "Stupid" or "knows what he is talking about"?
Personally, I believe he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about.

While I won't call you "stupid", I WILL call you "very ignorant" about
Microsoft licensing.

So what? MS's licensing nonsense has no business in the privacy of my
own home.

If a shampoo manufacturer put a shrinkwrap license on its bottle stating
that the end user can only use the product to wash hair on your scalp,
what real legal recourse do they have if you use it on your pubes?

None. Same as MS.

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Kurt
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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[Donald McDaniel]

I can't believe your that stupid

OK, I correct myself, you are that stupid.

While I won't call you "stupid", I WILL call you "truth-challenged" and
"ignorant of Microsoft Licensing terms."
Removing (i.e., "deleting") the first "instance" of Vista when
transferring the license to a different machine is MANDATORY, not "a
SUGGESTION" or "VOLUNTARY." You can't leave a SINGLE BIT of the OS on
the original machine. This is true for ALL distros of Vista, whether
OEM, or Retail.

If one FAILS to remove it from the FIRST MACHINE, the SECOND
installation will be ILLEGAL and UNLICENSED, even if he WERE able to
Activate the second instance. Don't believe me? Read the section in
your Microsoft EULA which refers specifically to TRANSFERING the license
from one machine to another.

Microsoft consumer OSes are licensed for a SINGLE installation on a
SINGLE MACHINE at a time, and NEVER for two or more installations using
the same CD key.

Mr. Brannigan, knows EXACTLY what he is talking about. I advise you to
listen to the man, rather than calling him "Stupid", which he most
definitely IS NOT.

 

[Donald McDaniel]

There is no deactivation procedure. You have already activated the
copy on your new machine so that is now the official machine for your
copy of Vista. You should, however, remove the copy of Vista from your
old machine.

John, you should know better!
The watch word here is NOT "should", it is "MUST", since it is REQUIRED
if he wants his second instance to be a LEGAL one.

To transfer a license for ANY Windows OS onto a SECOND machine while it
is still on the first one, the EULA REQUIRES that the FIRST instance
MUST be COMPLETELY REMOVED (i.e., "deleted").

I can see why you call yourself an "associate expert". You simply
aren't "expert" enough to be a REAL one, apparently.