still playing sounds in web page

B

Beemer Biker

Even though I have turned off "Playing sounds in webpage" I still get audio.
Both IE6 with latest updates and IE7 fail to stop auto from playing. For
example www.espn.com

Firefox does not have this problem. Bring up firefox to the above url I see
a large white area "real audio is required". OK, maybe that is what is
doing the playing. I did upgrade flash.ocx to the latest because I kept
getting faults in IE6 (and IE 7) The faults disappeared when I upgraded to
real audio 9. I reported this last week on this news group.

So I had to get real audio upgrade to fix program faults in explorer? That
then fix causes audio to be played when I dont want it? Can microsoft fix
this problem where explorer has:

===from=======

TOOLS - OPTIONS - ADVANCED - Multimedia
[ ] Play sounds in web pages


===to=======

TOOLS - OPTIONS - ADVANCED - Multimedia
[ ] Play sounds in web pages
[ ] Really dont play sounds in web pages.

Alternately, maybe there is a config for real audio where I can tell it not
to play any sounds?
 
R

Robert Aldwinckle

Beemer Biker said:
Even though I have turned off "Playing sounds in webpage" I still get audio.
Both IE6 with latest updates and IE7 fail to stop auto from playing. For
example www.espn.com

Firefox does not have this problem. Bring up firefox to the above url I see
a large white area "real audio is required". OK, maybe that is what is
doing the playing. I did upgrade flash.ocx to the latest because I kept
getting faults in IE6 (and IE 7) The faults disappeared when I upgraded to
real audio 9. I reported this last week on this news group.

So I had to get real audio upgrade to fix program faults in explorer? That
then fix causes audio to be played when I dont want it? Can microsoft fix
this problem where explorer has:

===from=======

TOOLS - OPTIONS - ADVANCED - Multimedia
[ ] Play sounds in web pages


===to=======

TOOLS - OPTIONS - ADVANCED - Multimedia
[ ] Play sounds in web pages
[ ] Really dont play sounds in web pages.

Alternately, maybe there is a config for real audio where I can tell it not
to play any sounds?



Why not ask Real Audio? They seem to want to do things their way.
Or why not just use the mute command in your sound card control?

BTW I have no idea what you are doing with the example site.
ESPN is soundless for me, even with the option checked.


To demonstrate what the option seems only to be designed for
we need to find a site which uses the <bgsound> HTML tag...

http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/sounds/_BGSOUND.html

(Live search for
bgsound
)

Clicking on the [this page] link (which leads to bgsoundtest.html)
proves that the option can indeed enable or disable sounds
made by that means.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---
 
B

Beemer Biker

Hi Robert! Thanks for responding ...

Robert Aldwinckle said:
Beemer Biker said:
Even though I have turned off "Playing sounds in webpage" I still get
audio.
Both IE6 with latest updates and IE7 fail to stop auto from playing. For
example www.espn.com

Firefox does not have this problem. Bring up firefox to the above url I
see
a large white area "real audio is required". OK, maybe that is what is
doing the playing. I did upgrade flash.ocx to the latest because I kept
getting faults in IE6 (and IE 7) The faults disappeared when I upgraded
to
real audio 9. I reported this last week on this news group.

So I had to get real audio upgrade to fix program faults in explorer?
That
then fix causes audio to be played when I dont want it? Can microsoft fix
this problem where explorer has:

===from=======

TOOLS - OPTIONS - ADVANCED - Multimedia
[ ] Play sounds in web pages


===to=======

TOOLS - OPTIONS - ADVANCED - Multimedia
[ ] Play sounds in web pages
[ ] Really dont play sounds in web pages.

Alternately, maybe there is a config for real audio where I can tell it
not
to play any sounds?



Why not ask Real Audio? They seem to want to do things their way.

I do not blame Real Audio, they are just using the toys and free training
that Microsoft provided them. I can download firefox with or without
googles toolbar. I use google frequently but do now want their toolbar.
Firefox runs just fine without that toolbar (or any active-x for that
matter). Microsofts IE seems to need that virus transfer protocol.
Or why not just use the mute command in your sound card control?

I certainly can and do. It is nice that option is available. Can you
imagine what it would be like if you had to get permission to adjust the
volume or mute the sound on a device you thought you owned. Imaging paying
$75 USD for a "home" product and find you only licensed it and the real
owner can sit back and decide what it can do and it won't.
BTW I have no idea what you are doing with the example site.
ESPN is soundless for me, even with the option checked.

Strange, I truely would like to have it shut up. I just went there again so
see if it was still up. I got launched directly into a sales movie.
Probably recognized a cookie and it was time to pitch something. I closed
it (IE7) and brought it back up and it didnt try to play that movie. I
probable could have clicked on "skip" or some such bull but I get
satisfaction out of closing the window and reopening it.

Anyway, I have XP with SP2 now, also office 2003. I upgraded from WIN2K and
office 2000 last month when it was suggested in a similary newsgroup
http://tinyurl.com/lnxy2 that the problem was win2k and not explorer. My
company suggested putting in office 2003 at same time.

Indeed, when I upgraded to XP audio no longer played when the mouse moved
over a "rollover" window. It was very aggrevating to move the mouse out of
IE, then around, underneath, then back up to click on something I was
interested in. Moving directly across the windows triggered all sorts of
crap. Some people put up with crap like that, others want to do something
about it.
To demonstrate what the option seems only to be designed for
we need to find a site which uses the <bgsound> HTML tag...

http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/sounds/_BGSOUND.html

(Live search for
bgsound
)

Clicking on the [this page] link (which leads to bgsoundtest.html)
proves that the option can indeed enable or disable sounds
made by that means.

yes, there some web site authors who have integrity. Others get paid only
if they can prove you were there and received the info the sponsor wants to
promote.
HTH

Robert Aldwinckle

Just want to share something with you ... I tried using firefox to run what
I thought was some mundane tasks on our intranet where I work. When Firefox
failed, I contacted our headshead and complained that firefox would not work
but IE would. This is what they said quoting:
From xxx:

Several years back Executive Management agreed that applications developed
by Financial Data Systems would be developed for compatibility with IE only
running in a Windows environment. That decision was primarily made because
of the extra effort (and therefore cost to overhead) that it takes to
develop platform and browser independent applications. IE was overwhelmingly
the browser used by xxx staff and therefore it was selected as the standard.
By doing this, we not only save overhead dollars, but we can also add
features that are only supported by IE.

I checked into this and actually the staff that developed the stuff was
provided free training and tools by microsoft. There are more people here
who use linux than windows in our department. Currently about %90 of our
products are delivered with enterprise red hat. The "features" our
headshead thought they were supporting actually make their Financial Data
Systems insecure and exploitable.
 

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