Starting Up Problem

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Subject: Re: Shutting Down/Starting Up Problems
From: "Dennis Lazo" <[email protected]> Sent:
8/28/2004 9:20:39 AM




snip,

your problem may have nothing to do with sp2. computers
nowadays do allow
electricity to get in even when you have not pushed the
power button on.
you can probably check with your computer manufacturer why
you are noticing
the surge.

however, you can use a surge protector or a volate
regulator if you want to
make sure that your computer won't be fed electricity
that's beyond its
capacity.

hope this helps.
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Update on this problem:

After I installed SP2 my machine started acting up -
startup problems. I always shut down windows and then
turn off my surge suppressor. When I want to turn the PC
back on I turn on the surge suppressor and press the on
button on the PC and everything works. Now that SP2 is
installed the startup is messed up. When you turn the
surge suppressor on the PC goes thru a quick surge and
then goes dead before you even press the power button on
the PC to turn it on. I tried different plugs and
different surge suppressors thinking that was the problem
but that didn't work. After I uninstalled SP2 the
machine startup went back to normal. What is in SP2 that
would cause such a thing and is there something or someway
to fix it so I can use SP2?

Thanks for any help - I am clueless on this one

 

[Manda Luyong]

This has nothing to do with SP2 at all. The situation exist even before you
turn on the PC.

 

[Snip]

Your response was not valid with my quesiton - if you
would have read the posting you would have seen that by
uninstalling SP2 the surge stopped - my question was what
is in SP2 that would cause this?

 

[Manda Luyong]

I have read your post completely. And I will repeat, this has nothing to do
with SP2. If there is a power surge before you even hit the power button on
the PC itself, then it is a hardware issue. Most new computer does that and
it is by design.

 

[Snip]

You say "Most new computer does that and it is by design" -
if you believe that then why did it work fine (no power
surge) prior to SP2 installation and after SP2 removal and
not while SP2 was installed. Makes no sense!

 

[Guest]

I have just installed XP SP2 on my Dell Dimension computer and am now getting
the same type of POWER PROBLEMS.... I cannot gt my machine to boot properly
now. Hard drive, Floppy or CD,,,, no go. Power problem is intermittent, will
start up part way sometime, other times nothing. This computer was fine
before this install (which I just did this morning). My company has already
been warned about putting this SP on Dell notebooks will cause SEVERE
problems and many have been documented already. This looks to be a big
problem up coming for MS.........

 

[w_tom]

This problem starts with insufficient basic knowledge about
how a computer works. Included is some wild speculation that
a power 'surges' on and that a surge protector does something
about this. First the surge protector: it does nothing -
remains completely inert - until AC mains voltage exceeds the
let-through voltage. Read the box. Where, pray tell, is the
330 volts coming from when you power on a computer?

Second, power up has nothing to do with Windows. Power up
is completely controlled by the BIOS and hardware controller
on motherboard. SP2 does not even exist yet while this power
up is ongoing.

Apparently you don't understand when BIOS executes verses
when Windows XP eventually boots and takes charge. I suspect
you are confusing a driver problem or some equivalent Windows
problem with a power up problem. This problem occurs long
after the computer has powered up and booted. Therefore the
original post with its warning is seriously flawed - totally
misrepresents the problem - because you don't even know what
the BIOS and surge protector does. Without that basic
knowledge, then your warning loses all credibility.

Did you even visit the event logs to learn why shutdown
might have been happening? Did you first review device
manager?

Extreme details of every screen message, what LEDs flash
when, and even the step by step boot execution with
corresponding messages would have provided useful
information. Currently you have flailed at wind mills.
Others have posted correctly that SP2 has no effect on power
up AND that there is no power surge when power button is
pressed. Using that information, please provide better
details before hyping a conclusion.