Standby problem

[Frank Booth Snr]

I have Windows 98SE (probably irrelevant) & Microstar 6340 mobo. The
timed standby option doesn't work when set under Power management in
Control Panel. There are no other set options eg <shut off monitor after
x mins> etc.

when I click Start/Shutdown/Standby> option, the PC tries to go into
Standby mode, but quickly goes back to desktop. Repeated attempts do the
same thing. The ACPI option in BIOS is enabled and APM disabled.

Any suggestions, please?

 

[Paul]

I have Windows 98SE (probably irrelevant) & Microstar 6340 mobo. The
timed standby option doesn't work when set under Power management in
Control Panel. There are no other set options eg <shut off monitor after
x mins> etc.

when I click Start/Shutdown/Standby> option, the PC tries to go into
Standby mode, but quickly goes back to desktop. Repeated attempts do the
same thing. The ACPI option in BIOS is enabled and APM disabled.

Any suggestions, please?

1) ACPI setting in the BIOS is something other than "S1 only" ?

2) HAL (hardware abstraction layer) of the installed OS is
ACPI ready ? The fact that you have a "Standby" option in
the menu is probably enough proof of that. You can also
look at the properties of "Computer" in Device Manager
to see what was installed.

3) Your most likely tool is this one:

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/products/Oemtest/v1.1/WOSTest/Tools/Acpi/dumppo.exe

This tool runs from a DOS prompt. (A Command Prompt window)

Typing "dumppo cap" should tell you how the computer
is set up and what states the OS is prepared to support.

Dumppo can also be used to do an "administrative override".
The "dumppo admin" command allows you to repair the ACPI
states supported, assuming that the right HAL has been
installed. But, again, that should be pretty apparent
from what dumppo shows. (It won't show any system states
as supported, if an ACPI HAL hasn't been installed.)

When you run "dumppo cap", if you see a LEGACY DRIVER DETECTED
message, that could be the driver preventing S3 sleep from
working. In this Google entry, you can see the author of the
posting got his ACPI states back, after the legacy driver
"hardlock" is removed from the system.

http://groups.google.ca/group/fr.comp.os.ms-windows.winnt/msg/2ec985cb8c5e8fac?dmode=source

Anyway, try out dumppo.exe and tell us what you see. It is
a tiny download and will only take about 3 seconds even on
dialup.

dumppo options:

 CAP = Capabilities
  PS = Power Supply
  BS = Battery Supply
  ADMIN = Administration
  AC = AC Power Settings
  DC = DC Power Settings
  AC MAXSLEEP=Sx
  AC MINSLEEP=Sx
  where x is the ACPI value (1 & 3)

Some other users having fun with Dumppo here:

"dumppo admin /ac minsleep=S3"
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?p=1825058&postcount=31

Paul

 

[CBFalconer]

.... snip ...

3) Your most likely tool is this one:

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/products/Oemtest/v1.1/WOSTest/Tools/Acpi/dumppo.exe

This tool runs from a DOS prompt. (A Command Prompt window)

Typing "dumppo cap" should tell you how the computer
is set up and what states the OS is prepared to support.

Dumppo can also be used to do an "administrative override".
The "dumppo admin" command allows you to repair the ACPI
states supported, assuming that the right HAL has been
installed. But, again, that should be pretty apparent
from what dumppo shows. (It won't show any system states
as supported, if an ACPI HAL hasn't been installed.)

When you run "dumppo cap", if you see a LEGACY DRIVER DETECTED
message, that could be the driver preventing S3 sleep from
working. In this Google entry, you can see the author of the
posting got his ACPI states back, after the legacy driver
"hardlock" is removed from the system.

The only response to that URL is "425 - Can't open data connection"
via Firefox.

--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without
formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to
deny him the judgement of his peers, is in the highest degree
odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government
whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943

 

[Paul]

The only response to that URL is "425 - Can't open data connection"
via Firefox.

It does work. Trust me

I don't know exactly what is up with the Microsoft server.
I've had occasions when I re-verify that link I quote
above, only to be kicked by the Microsoft server. Then
other times it works fine.

All I can suggest, is throwing every FTP client you can
think of, at it.

Hmmm. I just tested it now, by doing a text based FTP session.
I can log into ftp.microsoft.com as anonymous. I can
CD to the directory listed above. But I can neither do a
"get" or a "dir" without the session just sitting there.
Perhaps that accounts for the 425 response.

OK. Here is how you do it. The secret is "passive".

*******
ftp ftp.microsoft.com
Connected to ftp.microsoft.com.
220 Microsoft FTP Service
Name (ftp.microsoft.com:expunged): anonymous
331 Anonymous access allowed, send identity (e-mail name) as password.
Password: (e-mail address removed)
230-Welcome to ftp.microsoft.com. Please also visit
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads.
230 Anonymous user logged in.
Remote system type is Windows_NT.
ftp> cd /products/Oemtest/v1.1/WOSTest/Tools/Acpi
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> passive
Passive mode: off; fallback to active mode: off.
ftp> dir
500 'EPRT |1|***.***.*.***|59666|': command not understood
[***.***.*.*** is my IP addr]
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
....
-r-xr-xr-x 1 owner group 13072 Jul 17 1998 dumppo.exe
....
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> binary
200 Type set to I.
ftp> get dumppo.exe
local: dumppo.exe remote: dumppo.exe
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for dumppo.exe(13072 bytes).
226 Transfer complete.
13072 bytes received in 00:00 (37.87 KB/s)
ftp> quit
221 Thank you for visiting ftp.microsoft.com.
*******

Paul

 

[CBFalconer]

The only response to that URL is "425 - Can't open data connection"
via Firefox.

It does work. Trust me

I don't know exactly what is up with the Microsoft server.
I've had occasions when I re-verify that link I quote
above, only to be kicked by the Microsoft server. Then
other times it works fine.

All I can suggest, is throwing every FTP client you can
think of, at it.

Hmmm. I just tested it now, by doing a text based FTP session.
I can log into ftp.microsoft.com as anonymous. I can
CD to the directory listed above. But I can neither do a
"get" or a "dir" without the session just sitting there.
Perhaps that accounts for the 425 response.

OK. Here is how you do it. The secret is "passive".

*******
ftp ftp.microsoft.com
Connected to ftp.microsoft.com.
220 Microsoft FTP Service
Name (ftp.microsoft.com:expunged): anonymous
331 Anonymous access allowed, send identity (e-mail name) as password.
Password: (e-mail address removed)
230-Welcome to ftp.microsoft.com. Please also visit
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads.
230 Anonymous user logged in.
Remote system type is Windows_NT.
ftp> cd /products/Oemtest/v1.1/WOSTest/Tools/Acpi
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> passive
Passive mode: off; fallback to active mode: off.
ftp> dir
500 'EPRT |1|***.***.*.***|59666|': command not understood
[***.***.*.*** is my IP addr]
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
...
-r-xr-xr-x 1 owner group 13072 Jul 17 1998 dumppo.exe
...
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> binary
200 Type set to I.
ftp> get dumppo.exe
local: dumppo.exe remote: dumppo.exe
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for dumppo.exe(13072 bytes).
226 Transfer complete.
13072 bytes received in 00:00 (37.87 KB/s)
ftp> quit
221 Thank you for visiting ftp.microsoft.com.
*******

That worked fine, thanks. Now it says "linked to missing
NTDLL.DLL:atol". This may be connected with the fact that this is
a W98 system, and I am wondering why it occasionally fails to shut
down the CRT after the time-out.

--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without
formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to
deny him the judgement of his peers, is in the highest degree
odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government
whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943