SP3 download preparations

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Yvonne York

My OS is WinXP SP2 and I have corresponding disk i.e. WinXP with SP2. (I
also have a separate SP2 disk). The OS is updated religiously and is current
with all patches, hotfixes etc..

I intend to download SP3 when it becomes available from the official
Microsoft website.

What preparation (if any) have to be performed prior downloading/installing
SP3 in order to keep my OS running smoothly; I read somewhere that various
hotfixes should be uninstalled/removed...

TIA.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

The patches you refer to were for the beta and RC so that Windows Update
would offer the pre-release versions of SP3 to the tester. You should not
need to do anything when SP3 becomes available on WU tomorrow. It will not
be a mandatory offering for some time but you should see its availability
when you visit WU.
 
M

Mark L. Ferguson

Aside from normal clean up operations, like disk cleanup, and defrag, you
might test your System Restore to see if it is working correctly. If SP3
fails, there will be a restore point created to go back to.

Here are some troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails to
restore: http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html

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Gerry

Diana

Are SP3 CDs to be made freely available as they were for SP2? How do you
get a CD?



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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Hello

The link below will provide you with General Requirements, Before you
install SP3
and Installing SP3:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsxp/cc164204.aspx

Diana [MSFT]
Diana Smith [MSFT] <[email protected]>
CSS Security Team

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.



Yvonne York said:
My OS is WinXP SP2 and I have corresponding disk i.e. WinXP with
SP2. (I also have a separate SP2 disk). The OS is updated
religiously and is current with all patches, hotfixes etc..

I intend to download SP3 when it becomes available from the official
Microsoft website.

What preparation (if any) have to be performed prior
downloading/installing SP3 in order to keep my OS running smoothly;
I read somewhere that various hotfixes should be
uninstalled/removed...

TIA.
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P

Patrick Keenan

Gerry said:
Diana

Are SP3 CDs to be made freely available as they were for SP2? How do you
get a CD?
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When SP3 is released, they will be available; as to freely, in many if not
most cases shipping has *not* been free. Plus, there is a shipping delay of
perhaps up to six weeks.

When it's released, you will be able to download the whole thing and burn it
to CD, which will give you the same result, for perhaps a couple of dollars
and a few hours of waiting.


HTH
-pk


<snippage>
 
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Gerry

Patrick

Thanks for your thoughts. I am in no hurry. I prefer to read the
problems others encounter first. With SP2 there was initially no
charge -that came later. Perhaps the Accountants woke up to the very
considerable costs their colleagues had incurred.

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Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Nonny

Thanks for your thoughts. I am in no hurry. I prefer to read the
problems others encounter first. With SP2 there was initially no
charge -that came later. Perhaps the Accountants woke up to the very
considerable costs their colleagues had incurred.
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I have it installed here and it works fine. If you image your drive
before installing, you can check it for yourself without having to
wait.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

See these tips of MVP Jupiter Jones (most will apply to WinXP SP3):
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp.htm. Ditto for most of what you'll find
in these subforums: http://aumha.net/index.php?c=16

Here are a few things you can do that should help you avoid most problems:

1. Make absolutely sure the machine's free of any hijackware, Trojan, or
virus infections before installing SP3.

2. Run Disk Cleanup then run a Defrag session before installing SP3.

3. Disable all real-time protections (anti-virus; anti-spyware; third-party
firewall) before installing SP3.

4. Reboot twice after installing SP3.
 
Y

Yvonne York

Thank you Colin Barnhorst, Diana, Patrick Keenan, Nonny, JS, Mark L.
Ferguson and PA Bear for a most informative/educational response. I shall be
guided accordingly.
With best regards,
Yvonne.
 
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JS

You're welcome.

JS

Yvonne York said:
Thank you Colin Barnhorst, Diana, Patrick Keenan, Nonny, JS, Mark L.
Ferguson and PA Bear for a most informative/educational response. I shall
be guided accordingly.
With best regards,
Yvonne.
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ANONYMOUS

Gerry said:
Patrick

Thanks for your thoughts. I am in no hurry. I prefer to read the
problems others encounter first. With SP2 there was initially no
charge -that came later. Perhaps the Accountants woke up to the very
considerable costs their colleagues had incurred.
Click to expand...

There was initially no charge for SP2 CDs because MS wanted everyone to
install it [whether they needed it or not] because they thought spyware
writers and hackers would not succeed to penetrate anybody's system with
new version of firewall ON by default!! Otherwise there wasn't any other
reasons for it!

Sceptics might say because the development of SP2 was partly funded by CIA
and FBI to have any say in tracking and keeping tabs on terrorists and
money launderers. I don't buy this theory though!
 
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Gerry

Microsoft were suffering an extremly bad press before SP2 because their
operating system was so vulnerable to exploitation by malware. They had
to put very considerable resources over the next 4 years to eliminate
these weaknesses in the operating system. That is not to say the
weaknesses should not have been there in the first place. However, they
had to take action and they did. It is foolish to criticise them for
trying to put matters right, which is how I interpret your post.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Gerry said:
Patrick

Thanks for your thoughts. I am in no hurry. I prefer to read the
problems others encounter first. With SP2 there was initially no
charge -that came later. Perhaps the Accountants woke up to the very
considerable costs their colleagues had incurred.
Click to expand...

There was initially no charge for SP2 CDs because MS wanted everyone
to install it [whether they needed it or not] because they thought
spyware writers and hackers would not succeed to penetrate anybody's
system with new version of firewall ON by default!! Otherwise there
wasn't any other reasons for it!

Sceptics might say because the development of SP2 was partly funded
by CIA and FBI to have any say in tracking and keeping tabs on
terrorists and money launderers. I don't buy this theory though!
Click to expand...
 
T

Tecknomage

Reminder to everyone on WinXP SP3, the REAL release is not out yet.

If you read the download page notes carefully, there is a statement
that the final release will be through Win Updates just like any
previous SP.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

Your assumptions based on that page are faulty. SP3 final is out. It is
just not offered on Windows Updates yet but will be when the filters are in
place to insure that users of some software packages do not install SP3
prematurely.
 
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Gerry

As an aside I wonder whether the web sites that provided copies of SP3
are liable for damages to the commercial outlets that installed SP3 when
they shouldn't have done!



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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Shenan Stanley

Gerry said:
As an aside I wonder whether the web sites that provided copies of
SP3 are liable for damages to the commercial outlets that installed
SP3 when they shouldn't have done!
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I'd say no - after all they had to seek out the download, manually start the
download and manually start the installation. All choices they made. If
they did not understand the possible consequences - too bad, so sad. Plus -
they should just revert back to backups.
 
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Gerry

Shenan

These sites are almost certain to be breaching the laws of copyright by
distibutiing copies of software contrary to the terms imposed by
Microsoft when they obtained the software. I am sure Microsoft could
stop the distribution if they wanted to.

Obtaining damages might be difficult for a commercial outlet because of
the number of complicated issues that would arise. These include the
absence of consideration for the transfer of software. A commercial
outlet might be expected to know that the software was not being
distributed through a Microsoft authorised dealer. A purchaser would be
expected to mitigate any loss. The software fails to install properly so
the loss is quickly remedied as you say by reverting to back ups.

My original point was, however, to draw out the complications that can
arise if you download software from an unauthorised source. Fools rush
in where angels fear to tread!

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Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Colin Barnhorst

So tell Microsoft.

Gerry said:
Shenan

These sites are almost certain to be breaching the laws of copyright by
distibutiing copies of software contrary to the terms imposed by Microsoft
when they obtained the software. I am sure Microsoft could stop the
distribution if they wanted to.

Obtaining damages might be difficult for a commercial outlet because of
the number of complicated issues that would arise. These include the
absence of consideration for the transfer of software. A commercial outlet
might be expected to know that the software was not being distributed
through a Microsoft authorised dealer. A purchaser would be expected to
mitigate any loss. The software fails to install properly so the loss is
quickly remedied as you say by reverting to back ups.

My original point was, however, to draw out the complications that can
arise if you download software from an unauthorised source. Fools rush in
where angels fear to tread!

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Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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