SP3 Access denied

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Wally

I have tried everything to get this thing to install with no luck.
- I have turned off Antivirus from the Statup;
- turned off almost everything in Startup that you can run without;
- Run from stand-alone SP3 Download;
- Done everything in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/949377
Still get the error. Log has DoRegistryUpdates failed before access denied.
I have run the subinacl reset script in the above link as well. I really
don't have any idea where to go next. There is way too much software on this
computer for me to attempt a total rebuild.
 
P

Pegasus [MVP]

Wally said:
I have tried everything to get this thing to install with no luck.
- I have turned off Antivirus from the Statup;
- turned off almost everything in Startup that you can run without;
- Run from stand-alone SP3 Download;
- Done everything in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/949377
Still get the error. Log has DoRegistryUpdates failed before access
denied.
I have run the subinacl reset script in the above link as well. I really
don't have any idea where to go next. There is way too much software on
this
computer for me to attempt a total rebuild.

Log on as Administrator, then install the service pack. If this is a WinXP
Home machine, do this from within Safe Mode.

About your installed software: You should plan ahead. Sooner or later you
will, of course, have to re-install some version of Windows. This is why you
should keep a list of every piece of software you install, recording the
following details:
1. Name of software.
2. Where you got it from (e.g. URL).
3. Licence key.
4. Price paid.
5. Where you placed the installation files.
6. Special settings.
7. Remarks

Installing the software directly from the Internet without paying attention
to the above points creates huge problem later on.
 
W

Wally

I am the Administrator. There are 2 users defined and both have
Administrator access.
This is XP Pro.
Yes, I do keep good records, but I am helping a non-profit company upgrade
PC's and this one is a pain. They have not kept good records and don't want
anything deleted "just in case it's necessary for some reason"
Safe Mode will probably not help as the registry is the registry. It
appears that some SACL in the Registry has been changed in some way that even
the reset script doesn't clean it up.
 
W

Wally

Been there done that.

These errors can occur if permissions for one or more registry keys are
restricted in a way that prevents the service pack from updating the keys.
Registry keys can become restricted by certain programs that change the
system access control lists (SACL) in the Registry so that administrator
accounts cannot alter them. The service pack installer runs under an
administrator account (User), and therefore cannot access restricted registry
keys. If Windows XP SP3 cannot update a registry key because it is restricted
by another program, the service pack installation fails.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Error message when you try to install WinXP SP3: "Access is denied" or
“Service Pack installation did not completeâ€
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377

[Possible fix:
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/reset-the-registry-and-the-file-permissions-in-windows-xp/]

How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

The year-long, free unlimited installation and compatibility support for
Windows XP SP3 ended on 14 April 2009. Such support will cost you at least
$159.00 USD/hour now.
 
W

Wally

Already exausted 949377 thanks.

PC Tools Registry scanner shows loads of errors, not sure if I can buy it to
get them fixed. It would be nice if it was free.

Already did all the 950718 stuff. Already did the prerequisite stuff too.

Guess I will pay out of pocket for PC Tools.

PA Bear said:
Error message when you try to install WinXP SP3: "Access is denied" or
“Service Pack installation did not completeâ€
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377

[Possible fix:
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/reset-the-registry-and-the-file-permissions-in-windows-xp/]

How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

The year-long, free unlimited installation and compatibility support for
Windows XP SP3 ended on 14 April 2009. Such support will cost you at least
$159.00 USD/hour now.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

I have tried everything to get this thing to install with no luck.
- I have turned off Antivirus from the Statup;
- turned off almost everything in Startup that you can run without;
- Run from stand-alone SP3 Download;
- Done everything in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/949377
Still get the error. Log has DoRegistryUpdates failed before access
denied.
I have run the subinacl reset script in the above link as well. I really
don't have any idea where to go next. There is way too much software on
this computer for me to attempt a total rebuild.
 
A

Anna

Wally said:
I have tried everything to get this thing to install with no luck.
- I have turned off Antivirus from the Statup;
- turned off almost everything in Startup that you can run without;
- Run from stand-alone SP3 Download;
- Done everything in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/949377
Still get the error. Log has DoRegistryUpdates failed before access
denied.
I have run the subinacl reset script in the above link as well. I really
don't have any idea where to go next. There is way too much software on
this
computer for me to attempt a total rebuild.


Wally said:
I am the Administrator. There are 2 users defined and both have
Administrator access.
This is XP Pro.
Yes, I do keep good records, but I am helping a non-profit company upgrade
PC's and this one is a pain. They have not kept good records and don't
want
anything deleted "just in case it's necessary for some reason"
Safe Mode will probably not help as the registry is the registry. It
appears that some SACL in the Registry has been changed in some way that
even
the reset script doesn't clean it up.


Wally said:
Been there done that.

These errors can occur if permissions for one or more registry keys are
restricted in a way that prevents the service pack from updating the keys.
Registry keys can become restricted by certain programs that change the
system access control lists (SACL) in the Registry so that administrator
accounts cannot alter them. The service pack installer runs under an
administrator account (User), and therefore cannot access restricted
registry
keys. If Windows XP SP3 cannot update a registry key because it is
restricted
by another program, the service pack installation fails.


Wally said:
Already exausted 949377 thanks.

PC Tools Registry scanner shows loads of errors, not sure if I can buy it
to
get them fixed. It would be nice if it was free.

Already did all the 950718 stuff. Already did the prerequisite stuff too.

Guess I will pay out of pocket for PC Tools.



Wally:
Well, before purchasing the PC Tools software, perhaps - just perhaps - the
problem is nothing more than a (mildly) corrupted OS that possibly can be
overcome & return the system to a functional state allowing SP3 to be
installed...

1. Can we assume the *only* problem experienced with the system is the
inability to download/install SP3? That there's *no* problem with the system
(currently containing the XP OS w/SP1 and/or SP2) other than that? The
system currently boots without incident and functions without any problems?

So the basic reason the users desire an SP3 install is to simply maintain an
up-to-date system, right? It's not a situation where there's some existing
current problem that they think might be resolved by installing SP3, right?

2. Assuming that is so...
Have you simply attempted to run the sfc /scannow and/or the chkdsk /r
commands? No luck with either?

3. Assuming those utilities don't correct the situation, have you considered
a Repair install of the OS? I'm assuming, of course, that an appropriate XP
OS installation CD is available to undertake a Repair install of the OS. And
then - hopefully should the Repair install resolve any OS corruption that
might be causing the present problem - attempt another download/install of
SP3.

4. Since, as you've indicated, the organization owning the machine considers
the data on the involved HDD quite important, it would probably be very wise
*at this point* to clone the contents of the drive to another drive or at
the least copy as much and whatever data is important to the owners
(assuming you haven't already done this).
Anna
 
W

Wally

Thank you Anna for the comprehensive reply.
As for answers:

Q1. Yes
Q2. Yes
Q4. Already done. I am taking daily incrimental and monthly full system
backups. I can restore to any recovery point that I have for the last 2
months. (entire images)
Q3. As for performing a repair installation of Windows, I haven't really
tried that. During such an installation, I have ended up in Repair console,
which is no place to be as it's just a CD booted command prompt. The next
step is full install and I think that wipes out the entire registry thereby
wiping out the essential entries to keep the existing programs (without
installation CD's) running. Am I missing something?

I purchased PC TOOLS Registry Magic and SP3 install is currently in it's 1
hour long install to the error (if I get it this time).

Thank you again for the reply, and if a repair install of Windows is
possible, I have an XP Pro CD with SP3 already on it. Unfortunately, I am
attempting the fix during off hours using remote control. I will have to do
my 52 mile round trip to the office to load CDs and watch it work (which is
OK), just can't do it today.
 
W

Wally

Note to all. I have installed PC TOOLS Registry Magic and cleaned up the
Registry, but the problem continues. I have no idea!
 
W

Wally

I am using www.logmein.com. I have 3 computers so far and it goes through
all the IP address mapping done by routers etc. that will not allow Remote
Desktop to operate. It's great! It's FREE (get the free one). Quick ...
easy ... no spam ... reliable and you can reboot remotely with no problems.

John said:
Thank you again for the reply, and if a repair install of Windows is
possible, I have an XP Pro CD with SP3 already on it. Unfortunately, I am
attempting the fix during off hours using remote control. I will have to do
my 52 mile round trip to the office to load CDs and watch it work (which is
OK), just can't do it today.
What are you using for "remote controle" ? I need to do this for an employee's
computer but have never tried it before. Both machines are XP home,
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P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Save your money! If you think your Registry needs to be "cleaned" or
"repaired," read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own
conclusions.
Already exausted 949377 thanks.

PC Tools Registry scanner shows loads of errors, not sure if I can buy it
to
get them fixed. It would be nice if it was free.

Already did all the 950718 stuff. Already did the prerequisite stuff too.

Guess I will pay out of pocket for PC Tools.

PA Bear said:
Error message when you try to install WinXP SP3: "Access is denied" or
“Service Pack installation did not completeâ€
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377

[Possible fix:
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/reset-the-registry-and-the-file-permissions-in-windows-xp/]

How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

The year-long, free unlimited installation and compatibility support for
Windows XP SP3 ended on 14 April 2009. Such support will cost you at
least
$159.00 USD/hour now.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

I have tried everything to get this thing to install with no luck.
- I have turned off Antivirus from the Statup;
- turned off almost everything in Startup that you can run without;
- Run from stand-alone SP3 Download;
- Done everything in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/949377
Still get the error. Log has DoRegistryUpdates failed before access
denied.
I have run the subinacl reset script in the above link as well. I
really
don't have any idea where to go next. There is way too much software on
this computer for me to attempt a total rebuild.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

It's Registry Mechanic & you just blew $30 (but I suppose you've already
come to the same conclusion).
 
B

Big Al - original

The year-long, free unlimited installation and compatibility support for
Windows XP SP3 ended on 14 April 2009. Such support will cost you at
least $159.00 USD/hour now.


Not true -see below

From : Sean 4-6-09
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows Support Professional

"I would like to explain that Microsoft have not determined that when the
SP3 free support will end. Personally, I think that we

will continue to provide free support for several months at least. For the
latest information about free SP3 Support deadline,

please pay more attention to our free SP3 Support link in the below. Thank
you for your understanding."

http://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...92234&acty=ProductList&ctl=productlist&wf=PID

&trl=PID%7eProductList&ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131
 
A

Anna

Wally said:
Thank you Anna for the comprehensive reply.
As for answers:

Q1. Yes
Q2. Yes
Q4. Already done. I am taking daily incrimental and monthly full system
backups. I can restore to any recovery point that I have for the last 2
months. (entire images)
Q3. As for performing a repair installation of Windows, I haven't really
tried that. During such an installation, I have ended up in Repair
console,
which is no place to be as it's just a CD booted command prompt. The next
step is full install and I think that wipes out the entire registry
thereby
wiping out the essential entries to keep the existing programs (without
installation CD's) running. Am I missing something?

I purchased PC TOOLS Registry Magic and SP3 install is currently in it's 1
hour long install to the error (if I get it this time).

Thank you again for the reply, and if a repair install of Windows is
possible, I have an XP Pro CD with SP3 already on it. Unfortunately, I am
attempting the fix during off hours using remote control. I will have to
do
my 52 mile round trip to the office to load CDs and watch it work (which
is
OK), just can't do it today.


Wally:
Yes, re "Q3", you are "missing something".

I think that at this point it is desirable to run a Repair install of the OS
if that option is available. Please don't confuse the Repair install process
with the "repair" process that one can undertake via the Recovery Console
(what you referred to as the "Repair console". It's an entirely different
"kettle of fish".

I'm assuming that the XP OS installation CD you would be using to undertake
the Repair install will allow you to do just that. Obviously I suppose it's
safe to say the machine you're dealing with contains an XP Pro OS (matching
your installation CD - the SP installed is immaterial). Hopefully the
installed OS on that machine is not an OEM-branded system. If it is, the
likelihood is your OS installation CD (as well as theirs) won't permit a
Repair install. In any event, do not the owners of the machine have the XP
OS installation CD?

I take it you're unfamiliar with a Repair install of the OS. Undertaking a
Repair install of the OS is a relatively straightforward process. It would
be roughly akin to making a fresh install of the OS, but in nearly every
case the user's existing programs & user-created data would be retained.
Notice I said "nearly". While it would be a rather rare situation where data
would be lost or corrupted as a result of the Repair install, and as
unlikely as it may be, it *could* happen.

So if there are any programs and/or other data on the present drive that are
absolutely crucial to the owners of the machine and they could not tolerate
their loss, then I would strongly suggest that before undertaking this
Repair install operation that you first either make a "clone" of the
existing HDD (using a disk-imaging or disk-cloning program) or, if that's
not practical, pull off whatever data they want onto some removable media,
e.g., flash drive, USB external HDD, CD, etc.

Again, while it's a relatively rare event that a loss or corruption of data
will occur even when the Repair install is unsuccessful, it *can* happen. So
you should be aware of this.

Here are the basic steps to undertake a Repair install of the XP OS...
1. Boot to your XP installation CD.
2. At the "Welcome to Setup" screen, press your Enter key. Do *not* press
the "R" key.
3. Press the F8 key at the Licensing Agreement screen.
4. The next screen will (hopefully) list your existing XP OS installation
and an option to repair that installation by pressing the "R" key. Do so.
5. The Repair install will proceed. You will need the XP OS Product ID key
so have that handy.

There are a number of websites that contain detailed information on the
Repair install process. As you can see from the above basic steps, it's not
a difficult process and not terribly time-consuming. As I've indicated it's
roughly similar to making a fresh install of the XP OS. If you do a Google
search on "XP repair install", you'll be pointed to many of these websites
that contain step-by-step instructions for undertaking a Repair install.
Here are a few...
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/repair_xp.htm
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=138
http://www.windowsreinstall.com/winxppro/installxpcdrepair/indexfullpage.htm
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315341

Assuming the Repair install is successful, you should use an
A-V-anti-malware program to immediately check out the system for any virus
and/or other malware infestation. Also, you will need to download/install
*all* the MS critical updates since SP3. (I'm assuming that if you undertake
this Repair install of the XP OS and it's successful, you will be doing so
with a XP installation CD that contains SP3 (either yours or theirs).

Understand that even if the problem originates from a corrupted OS, i.e., no
hardware issue is involved, the Repair install is not always successful at
least in terms of correcting the existing problem you're experiencing.

But what I'm curious about is that you indicate that presently there is no
other problem with the system other than this inability to install SP3,
i.e., you've indicated the system properly functions in all respects without
any problems. (I'm assuming the system presently contains SP2).

While it would be desirable to install SP3, all things considered, as long
as the system is being kept up-to-date with MS's critical updates and
there's *absolutely* no other problems with the system and current backups
of the system are maintained, and assuming the Repair install as well as
other processes to install SP3 are unsuccessful, why consider a
fresh-install of the OS at this time? Could not the owners of the machine
live with the present system? Is it that you envision further problems down
the road?
Anna
 
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

Thanks for this. It would appear that the no-charge support period has been
extended (but certainly not indefinitely) beyond the original 14 April 2009
cut-off date.

• US:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• CA:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-ca&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• UK:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-gb&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• AU:
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-au&prid=11273&gprid=522131

• Other: http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=1173 | select
Windows XP | select Windows XP Service Pack 3
 

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