sp2 to sp1

[Steve N.]

Well one thing I intend to do is set up the scenario - I'm curious.

The scenario of an SP1 repair install over SP2? I just did it yesterday,
so did Torgeir. Niether of us had any problems, but go right ahead, the
more the merrier. It actually went very quickly and there wasn't a need
to re-activate either.

Steve

 

[lucyfer]

Have you ever tried? I don't aggree with you base on my experience.

 

[David Candy]

Come on Carey defend yourself. I can teach you how to swear if you don't know how. I can teach you to be really abusive. I can show you threads by your namesake (who interviewed Doug Knox on some yankee computer radio show with ads on baldness and weight loss) on how to conduct a strategic offensive. I can show you how to humilate people without swearing as well by clinically disecting someone with utter psychobabble.

FIGHT!!!! Email me for tips.

 

[Steve N.]

Q: "Does that not imply that whatever baseline version disk you use will take
out all updates & patches released after that version disk ?".

A: Only as long as the "uninstall" files for the Service Packs exist. If the
Service Pack uninstall files do not exist, as in the case of a slipstreamed
version, then the Service Pack cannot be uninstalled.

I have actually tried performing a Repair Install using the original RTM
Windows XP CD or a Windows XP CD with SP1 after having deleted
the SP2 uninstall file directory ( $NTServicePackUinistall$) in Windows Explorer.
The only repair install that will work is with a Windows XP CD with SP2 slipstreamed.

With a new computer that comes preinstalled with Windows XP SP2, the
SP2 uninstall file directory ( $NTServicePackUinistall$) does not exist,
therefore SP2 cannot be uninstalled manually or via a repair install using
a pre-SP2 Windows XP CD.

Are you really that dense? You've got to be lying about actually trying
it because I just did it yesterday and so did Torgeir. Clean install
from an XP Pro SP2 CD, then a repair install from an XP Pro SP1 CD. No
errors, period. Not even a re-activation required. The box is now
running XP Pro SP1.

Steve

 

[Ted Zieglar]

I can see why you are a "Self-anointed Moderator". Who else would?

Ted Zieglar

 

[Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)]

Have you ever tried? I don't aggree with you base on my
experience.

Hi,

Yes, I have tried it, and it works fine (read the rest of the posts
in this thread).

But note that you *must* boot on the WinXP SP1 CD, you can not insert
the WinXP SP1 CD on a running WinXP SP2 installation and select
"Install Windows XP", that will give you the error message "Setup
cannot continue because the version of Windows on your computer is
newer than the version on the CD."

 

[Steve N.]

Come on Carey defend yourself. I can teach you how to swear if you
don't know how. I can teach you to be really abusive. I can show you
threads by your namesake (who interviewed Doug Knox on some yankee
computer radio show with ads on baldness and weight loss) on how to
conduct a strategic offensive. I can show you how to humilate people
without swearing as well by clinically disecting someone with utter
psychobabble.

FIGHT!!!! Email me for tips.

ROFLMAO! You're too much David!

Steve

 

[kurttrail]

Come on Carey defend yourself. I can teach you how to swear if you
don't know how. I can teach you to be really abusive. I can show you
threads by your namesake (who interviewed Doug Knox on some yankee
computer radio show with ads on baldness and weight loss) on how to
conduct a strategic offensive. I can show you how to humilate people
without swearing as well by clinically disecting someone with utter
psychobabble.

FIGHT!!!! Email me for tips.

Yes, but can you teach him how to copy and paste it, David?! ;-)

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[kurttrail]

I can see why you are a "Self-anointed Moderator". Who else would?

LOL! I have that in my sig to make fun of myself, so if you are gonna
try to make of me, why don't you try to think up something original.

I just love it when morons like you abandon everything in a thread to
come after me!

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[kurttrail]

Have you ever tried? I don't aggree with you base on my experience.

Go back to HELL. Torgeir tried just yesterday. And so did Steve. And
so did R. McCarty.

All three are well known as being quite technically knowledgable, and
are men of integrity, and even if I don't always agree with them on
matters of opinion, I respect them.

You, who knows you but other disreputable demons?!

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[Steve N.]

Yes, but can you teach him how to copy and paste it, David?! ;-)

LOL!

Do you really think he needs any help with that?

Steve

 

[Steve N.]

Go back to HELL. Torgeir tried just yesterday. And so did Steve. And
so did R. McCarty.

I must have missed R's report, I'll have to look for it.

I can attest that I not only tried but suceeded and it went rather
quickly, too. No errors, no problems, no re-activation. As a matter of
fact, I actually went the extra mile and did it twice, once with an
upgraded to SP2 XP Pro install and once with a clean install of SP2 XP
Pro and it worked in both cases exactly the same.

All three are well known as being quite technically knowledgable, and
are men of integrity, and even if I don't always agree with them on
matters of opinion, I respect them.

You, who knows you but other disreputable demons?!

This is one reason why I hate crossposting, the devil always shows up
sooner or later.

Thanks for the respect and compliments Kurt, I assure you it is mutual.
If we always agreed conversations would likely get even more boring
around here.

Steve

 

[Steve N.]

I must have missed R's report, I'll have to look for it.

Doh! Brain-fart. I even replied to him. Nevermind.

Steve

 

[kurttrail]

Doh! Brain-fart. I even replied to him. Nevermind.

LOL! At least brain-farts don't smell. Just too bad they hardly ever
happen in private!

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[Dilip]

Not according to Carey. He categorically denied that it would work.


"Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation?"

One would presume that the OP already had access to the SP1 CD, if he was
asking whether is could help in downgrading to SP2 to SP1.

Ah, but in the reply to Jupiter's post, the OP says this
The dell pc came pre-installed with sp2.

So it's a pretty new piece, and he wouldn't have the SP1 SS disk...

I don't see that as a relevant question in this thread. But I doubt an
OEM would supply any CD media that it is not required to supply.

I realize that it may be off topic, but it is related; I hope you vouch for
it ;-) My point is that it will not be easy.

LOL! At least most of us know it.

No surprises there for any of the regulars, I'm sure. It seems to be
perfectly succinct that Carey's misinformed and ill-researched posts are,
and have been deleterious, not only to the OP, but also to the rest of the
group. Thanks to all who have posted their empirical data. Original posts
are greatly appreciated.

 

[Star Fleet Admiral Q]

Carey,
You're full of it, we do this every day with PC's that are delivered
with SP2 installed at the factory. We pop in the SP1 CD, do the repair
install, and install all hotfixes applying to SP1 except the SP2 update.
There are no "UNINSTALL" files as the CD's accompanying the PC's has SP2
slipstreamed in - that's why MS always says to reinstall "hotfixes" and
"service packs" as applicable after a "REPAIR" install - it brings the OS
back down to the baseline found on the CD and/or image.

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[Star Fleet Admiral Q]

Maybe Steve N could be a little nicer, but Carey does have a habit of
spouting off about things he is totally incorrect about, and then trying to
make the ones who are correcting him look foolish. I knew a guy in
high-school like that one, after he got his butt kicked a few times in
college, he quit doing it - strange how that works (not saying we should
kick Carey's butt either), just Carey needs to focus more on "QUALITY" than
"QUANTITY".

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[Steve N.]

Maybe Steve N could be a little nicer, but Carey does have a habit of
spouting off about things he is totally incorrect about, and then trying to
make the ones who are correcting him look foolish. I knew a guy in
high-school like that one, after he got his butt kicked a few times in
college, he quit doing it - strange how that works (not saying we should
kick Carey's butt either), just Carey needs to focus more on "QUALITY" than
"QUANTITY".

Carey doesn't pay attention to "nice". But don't take my word for it,
take his.

-Steve


Carey Frisch [MVP] Oct 10 2004, 3:59 pm
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
From: "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:59:52 -0500
Local: Sun,Oct 10 2004 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: You give MVPs a bad name

Steve wrote:

"

Look, Carey, I'm not really trying to attack you personally, but
dog-gone it, you have got some really bad habits and I and others have
tried in various ways to point them out to you. Are you really so dense
and/or egotistical to summarily dismiss such criticisms without
considering that some of them may actually have valid points that you
might be able to learn something from and (heaven forbid!) actually
IMPROVE your performance here? Come on! Nobody can possibly be that
arrogantly egotistical to believe they are as perfect as you apparently
believe yourself to be. No one is above reproach, not even you.
I dare you to be honest

.."

My reply:

Indeed, many of the criticisms of my contributions to the Microsoft
newsgroups
do not fall on deaf ears. I sometimes get a bit cranky, edgy,
defensive, etc., put then
I reflect back and do my best to make adjustments. And believe it or
not, it was
some of the harshest and/or sarcastic criticisms that made me take note!
I am also
a Taurus, and as a stubborn "bull", I'm a bit slow to readjust.
Apparently, I was
nominated twice for an MVP award a few years ago, but never got it. I made
some significant adjustments and finally earned the award, but it took a lot
of determined effort. Now that I have earned the award, it is incumbent
upon me
to become even more proficient and accurate with my posts, and to
reflect a positive
attitude toward Microsoft and Microsoft products (although I'm not at
all pressured
to do so). So, there you have it.

 

[kurttrail]

Ah, but in the reply to Jupiter's post, the OP says this
The dell pc came pre-installed with sp2.

So it's a pretty new piece, and he wouldn't have the SP1 SS disk...

And if you read futher in his reply to Juppy, it sounds like a work PC
where they probably do have access to an earily XP install CD.

"All pre-sp2 pcs work fine."

I realize that it may be off topic, but it is related; I hope you
vouch for it ;-) My point is that it will not be easy.

And I definitely agree with your point, but I still doubt it is relevant
to this particular situation.

No surprises there for any of the regulars, I'm sure. It seems to be
perfectly succinct that Carey's misinformed and ill-researched posts
are, and have been deleterious, not only to the OP, but also to the
rest of the group. Thanks to all who have posted their empirical
data. Original posts are greatly appreciated.

Yep, they definitely are! Take care, Dilip!

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[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

If the original OP has a follow-up question, I will respond.
I do not respond to trolls.

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:

| Steve N. wrote:
|
| > kurttrail wrote:
| >
| >> lucyfer wrote:
| >>
| >>> Have you ever tried? I don't aggree with you base on my experience.
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> Go back to HELL. Torgeir tried just yesterday. And so did Steve.
| >> And so did R. McCarty.
| >
| >
| > I must have missed R's report, I'll have to look for it.
|
| Doh! Brain-fart. I even replied to him. Nevermind.
|
| Steve
|
| >
| > I can attest that I not only tried but suceeded and it went rather
| > quickly, too. No errors, no problems, no re-activation. As a matter of
| > fact, I actually went the extra mile and did it twice, once with an
| > upgraded to SP2 XP Pro install and once with a clean install of SP2 XP
| > Pro and it worked in both cases exactly the same.
| >
| >>
| >> All three are well known as being quite technically knowledgable, and
| >> are men of integrity, and even if I don't always agree with them on
| >> matters of opinion, I respect them.
| >>
| >> You, who knows you but other disreputable demons?!
| >>
| >
| > This is one reason why I hate crossposting, the devil always shows up
| > sooner or later.
| >
| > Thanks for the respect and compliments Kurt, I assure you it is mutual.
| > If we always agreed conversations would likely get even more boring
| > around here.
| >
| > Steve