sp2 to sp1

[John]

Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I would
like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

John;
Did SP-2 come installed on the computer or was SP-2 part of the installation
CD?
Perform a Repair Installation with a pre SP-2 CD should do it.
But you may have problems with the Product Key, Activation etc depending on
the versions involved.

Why do you want to downgrade the security of your computer?
Eventually you will need SP-2.

 

[kurttrail]

Hi

Is there anyway to bring down an sp2 machine to sp1? Possibly by
reinstalling from xp sp1 cd on top of a sp2 installation? Ideally I
would like to retain all apps during the process if possible.

Thanks

Regards

WARNING! BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING, BACK UP EVERYTHING!

Okay, What did I just say?

BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING, BACK UP EVERYTHING!

Is that clear?

One more time!

BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING, BACK UP EVERYTHING!

You can try to do a repair install with the SP1 CD.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

But remember:

BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING, BACK UP EVERYTHING!

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[S.Sengupta]

How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875350

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

 

[lucyfer]

This depends on whether your SP2 is a part of your installation. CD just as
Jupiter said.

 

[John]

The dell pc came pre-installed with sp2. I am having problem with one access
app which uses internet transfer control to post to a web site and it does
not work with sp2. All pre-sp2 pcs work fine. I have worked with an ISA
server MS guy (as all pcs are behind and sbs2003/Isa 2000 server) and he
thinks somehow sp2 is prohibiting the itc from sending user credentials to
ISA server hence ISA server responds by 407 Proxy authentication required.
Have spent a lot of time on both pc and server settings. Don't know what to
do except downgrade the pc to sp1.

Thanks

Regards

 

[John]

Would any of these method required re-installing apps?

Thanks

Regards

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

If SP2 is included with your new Dell PC, it cannot be uninstalled
or removed. Therefore, you cannot downgrade your system to SP1.

Using programs and hardware with Service Pack 2 (SP2)
http://support.microsoft.com/xpsp2swhw

Some programs 'seem' to stop working after you install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842242

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| The dell pc came pre-installed with sp2. I am having problem with one access
| app which uses internet transfer control to post to a web site and it does
| not work with sp2. All pre-sp2 pcs work fine. I have worked with an ISA
| server MS guy (as all pcs are behind and sbs2003/Isa 2000 server) and he
| thinks somehow sp2 is prohibiting the itc from sending user credentials to
| ISA server hence ISA server responds by 407 Proxy authentication required.
| Have spent a lot of time on both pc and server settings. Don't know what to
| do except downgrade the pc to sp1.
|
| Thanks
|
| Regards

 

[lucyfer]

Hi John,

I noticed that your SP2 is pre-installed ,so cannot be removed separatedly.

 

[John]

I have got a couple of new pcs coming in the same configuration. If I
repair-install with sp1 before installing any app, would that work?
Obviously I can always completely wipe off and start with sp1 on a pc but
whatever is quickest.

Regards

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

No. There are no SP2 uninstall files with a preinstalled SP2 installation.
An attempted Repair Install using a SP1 Windows XP CD will fail because
SP2 would have to be uninstalled first.

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| I have got a couple of new pcs coming in the same configuration. If I
| repair-install with sp1 before installing any app, would that work?
| Obviously I can always completely wipe off and start with sp1 on a pc but
| whatever is quickest.
|
| Regards

 

[Torgeir Bakken \(MVP\)]

No. There are no SP2 uninstall files with a preinstalled SP2
installation. An attempted Repair Install using a SP1 Windows XP CD
will fail because SP2 would have to be uninstalled first.

Hi,

Carey, that is wrong, a Repair Install with a SP1 Windows XP CD will
actually remove SP2.

From
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

<quote>
Please note that a Repair Install from the Original install XP CD
will remove SP1/SP2 and service packs will need to be reapplied.
</quote>

 

[kurttrail]

Hi,

Carey, that is wrong, a Repair Install with a SP1 Windows XP CD will
actually remove SP2.

From
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

<quote>
Please note that a Repair Install from the Original install XP CD
will remove SP1/SP2 and service packs will need to be reapplied.
</quote>

Thanks Torgeir!

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[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Hello Torgeir -

SP2 cannot be removed if the original SP2 uninstall files do not exist,
such as the case with a preinstalled Windows XP installation with SP2
already slipstreamed in at the factory.

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| Hi,
|
| Carey, that is wrong, a Repair Install with a SP1 Windows XP CD will
| actually remove SP2.
|
| From
| http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
|
| <quote>
| Please note that a Repair Install from the Original install XP CD
| will remove SP1/SP2 and service packs will need to be reapplied.
| </quote>
|
|
| --
| torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
| Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
| the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
| http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx

 

[R. McCarty]

I think the point of contention is that if you perform a "Repair" install
with any earlier XP version disk, you will remove whatever SP level
existed. But you are right that embedded or Slipstreamed disks do
not have a SP roll-back capability.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

If you attempt to perform a Repair Install using a Windows XP SP1 CD,
you will get an error message that the SP2 files cannot be removed and
the Repair Install will fail and subsequently abort.

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| I think the point of contention is that if you perform a "Repair" install
| with any earlier XP version disk, you will remove whatever SP level
| existed. But you are right that embedded or Slipstreamed disks do
| not have a SP roll-back capability.

 

[kurttrail]

If you attempt to perform a Repair Install using a Windows XP SP1 CD,
you will get an error message that the SP2 files cannot be removed and
the Repair Install will fail and subsequently abort.

Please somebody, ask him if he has tried this himself? He won't see
this post of mine.

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[R. McCarty]

If necessary, I'll do a Repair on a Slipstreamed SP2 XP VPC. But
I've never seen a repair install do any type of vision checking. Why
else would all documentation on Repair install make mention of the
need to reapply Hotfixes and Service Packs after completion. Does
that not imply that whatever baseline version disk you use will take
out all updates & patches released after that version disk ?

 

[kurttrail]

If necessary, I'll do a Repair on a Slipstreamed SP2 XP VPC. But
I've never seen a repair install do any type of vision checking. Why
else would all documentation on Repair install make mention of the
need to reapply Hotfixes and Service Packs after completion. Does
that not imply that whatever baseline version disk you use will take
out all updates & patches released after that version disk ?

Last time I tried it was with a SP1 install and a RTM CD, and the repair
install did the "downgrade" with no problems. I would assume it would
work the same with a SP2 install and a SP1 or RTM CD.

My problem with Carey is that he often spouts info that he has heard,
and has never tried himself.

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[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Q: "Does that not imply that whatever baseline version disk you use will take
out all updates & patches released after that version disk ?".

A: Only as long as the "uninstall" files for the Service Packs exist. If the
Service Pack uninstall files do not exist, as in the case of a slipstreamed
version, then the Service Pack cannot be uninstalled.

I have actually tried performing a Repair Install using the original RTM
Windows XP CD or a Windows XP CD with SP1 after having deleted
the SP2 uninstall file directory ( $NTServicePackUinistall$) in Windows Explorer.
The only repair install that will work is with a Windows XP CD with SP2 slipstreamed.

With a new computer that comes preinstalled with Windows XP SP2, the
SP2 uninstall file directory ( $NTServicePackUinistall$) does not exist,
therefore SP2 cannot be uninstalled manually or via a repair install using
a pre-SP2 Windows XP CD.

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"R. McCarty" wrote:

| If necessary, I'll do a Repair on a Slipstreamed SP2 XP VPC. But
| I've never seen a repair install do any type of vision checking. Why
| else would all documentation on Repair install make mention of the
| need to reapply Hotfixes and Service Packs after completion. Does
| that not imply that whatever baseline version disk you use will take
| out all updates & patches released after that version disk ?