SP2 from MSDN?

[Robert Moir]

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1631669,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about FTP & Gopher here. I can't find
that word on the website link above. I apologise, I know its probably my
mistake, but I even searched with Firefox's search tool.

FTP still works here, by the way. I keep testing it for you to see if it has
magically rotted away yet, but it is still working. Do you think I should
submit a bug report?

 

[Testy]

I have no idea what you are talking about. So long.


Testy

 

[Robert Moir]

I have no idea what you are talking about. So long.

I'll take that to mean that you don't have any facts to back your position
up.

 

[Testy]

What position and what claims re you talking about?

Testy

 

[Robert Moir]

What position and what claims re you talking about?

Testy

"Have you tried ftp yet? It will not ever work again." - Testy

and when I replied that FTP still works for me (and it still does, by the
way, it hasn't started to "not ever work again" yet)

"Funny MS own website states the FTP and GOPHER are no longer supported in
SP2." - Testy.

Surely you remember your own words from yesterday?


Regards
Rob Moir.

 

[Testy]

I took no "position" I responded to a question with a question and pointed
to an article from MS. It was pointed out that my interpretation of the
article was incorrect. A point to which I have conceded.
It is hard to follow a thread if one does not quote the posts they are
referring to If you wish to continue a personal attack based on outdated
information please go bang your head against another brick wall.

Testy

 

[Robert Moir]

I took no "position" I responded to a question with a question and
pointed to an article from MS. It was pointed out that my
interpretation of the article was incorrect. A point to which I have
conceded.

Fair enough. Thank you.

It is hard to follow a thread if one does not quote the posts they are
referring to If you wish to continue a personal attack based on
outdated information please go bang your head against another brick
wall.

Ok. When have I made a "personal attack"?

 

[Testy]

It was decided by these clients not to be cost effective for them to
re-write their code for these custom applications.

Testy

 

[Eyal Teler]

As I have stated elsewhere I have Beats tested SP2 for several months for
several of my clients. The major on which supplies custom software to major
companies throughout N.A. has decided to NOT support SP 2 and has advised
all its clients to stay with SP1 or to switch to Linux which will be fully
supported.

I'd be interesting to know why this decision was made. Have any of the
problems which must have resulted in this decision been reported to
Microsoft, how were they reported, and what was the response if any?

Eyal

 

[Testy]

No. It would be far to technical for you to understand.

Testy

 

[Eyal Teler]

It was decided by these clients not to be cost effective for them to
re-write their code for these custom applications.

Why? Did they have a bunch of deliberate buffer underruns that would
be prevented by SP2?

Eyal

 

[Testy]

Well, if you think you would be able to understand and know better the over
75 consultants working for several developers that employ hundreds of
programmers and supply custom applications to major corporation and
governments please send me your resume there is a position open that pays
150,000US I am sure you would qualify.


Testy

 

[Eyal Teler]

No. It would be far to technical for you to understand.

Really, that technical, huh.

I'd have said "try me" but I'm sure you have no shred of idea yourself.

Eyal

 

[Eyal Teler]

Well, if you think you would be able to understand and know better the over
75 consultants working for several developers that employ hundreds of
programmers and supply custom applications to major corporation and
governments please send me your resume there is a position open that pays
150,000US I am sure you would qualify.

I'm not saying I know better. I assume they had reasons (and it's also
clear to me now that, as I suspected, you don't know them). What I
wonder is whether they discussed it with Microsoft in any way. I
understand that these people were on the beta, so did Microsoft just
tell them "we don't care about your problem reports"?

BTW, the position isn't relevant (considering that I'm not in the US
and that you haven't given details), but thanks for the offer.

Eyal

 

[Testy]

Of course they were in contact with MS! For security reasons I am not
allowed to provide the information you request. If I did so I would be
subject to prosecution under breech of contract and several international
security laws.
P.S. if you really are that good send your resume I never said the position
was NOT in the U.S.

Testy

 

[Testy]

I am only a small cog in a huge worldwide conglomerate. All actions were
taken at the highest level since several nations security were involved.

Testy

 

[Eyal Teler]

Of course they were in contact with MS! For security reasons I am not
allowed to provide the information you request. If I did so I would be
subject to prosecution under breech of contract and several international
security laws.

Okay, sorry. Pity I can't satisfy my curiosity.

If you're allowed, however, perhaps you could write a detailed
description of the case and e-mail it to one of the higher ups in
Microsoft. As an MVP and beta tester, I've seen feedback go to waste
by inadequate responses, but I've also seen good responses when
feedback reached the right people. I'm sure Microsoft does care about
losing business, so they might try to do something. Too late for SP2,
but maybe in the future... So if you have some time to spare, such a
letter might achieve something.

P.S. if you really are that good send your resume I never said the position
was NOT in the U.S.

I may be misunderstanding the sentence -- is it in the US or not? The
sentence says it is, but I'm not, so...

In any case, not really relevant right now (not sure if at all, since
I still don't know what job you're offering). I'm in YAS mode (Yet
Another Startup). Payment up front is lousy (and usually in the end,
too), but high job satisfaction.

Eyal

 

[Michael J. Carter]

Yeah, it appears that they messed up on the version string.

The only way to tell that you have the final version is if it says
xpsp_sp2_rtm. Notice the date is incorrect as well, since the final build
date was 2004-08-04 not 2004-08-03. It seems they were under the gun to get
the final version out and this just slipped between the cracks. How
unforunate, since it is very confusing.

The correct version string should have been:

Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040804-2180: Service Pack 2

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

2158 refers to time not Build so it is correct..
That is why 2158 follows the date, you not only get the date but the
time.
2158 = 9:58 PM (most likely Pacific time)

 

[Lawrence Groves]

Supported and works are two very different things.

FTP does indeed work, but you have to tell the firewall to let it pass.

Well I installed SP2 this morning and having read all this have just checked
FTP and VPN. Both work fine under SP2, and I haven't made a single change
from the default firewall settings. I haven't specifically allowed this
traffic to pass though anyway.

Loz.

PS. Yes, my firewall is enabled.