SP2 from MSDN?

[Robert Moir]

Nope. I do not have and never will have SP2 installed.

So how are you in a position to have such a detailed opinion about it? I
mean, aren't you kind of firing blind to talk about such things without any
first hand knowledge?

Incidentally, FTP *still* works here. Hasn't rotted away yet. And the only
documentation I can find for FTP being dropped relates to its use as a
software install point. Can you help me find the documentation that shows
that support for FTP is being dropped and FTP will never work again?

 

[Testy]

As I have stated elsewhere I have Beats tested SP2 for several months for
several of my clients. The major on which supplies custom software to major
companies throughout N.A. has decided to NOT support SP 2 and has advised
all its clients to stay with SP1 or to switch to Linux which will be fully
supported. I never make statements I cannot back up but don't think I need
to state my credentials with every OPINION I post.
I believe we are ALL still entitled to have our OWN opinions, correct?

Testy

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Then your system most likely has a problem and will possibly have more
problems related to unsafe computing.
Most users need Service Pack 2 because most users are interested in
protecting their computer.

Also you contradict yourself:
"I do not have and never will have SP2 installed."
With that statement you are not qualified to make any judgments
against something you have not and will never use.

"I have Beats tested SP2 for several months for several of my
clients."
Unless you are saying testing is not using.

 

[Testy]

I do not NOW have....is that better?

I thought it should have been obvious from my comments that I DID have it at
one time, but reading comprehension seems to be at a minimum in these
newsgroups.

I personally did not have any "problems" with SP2 I just had to disable
most of its "features" it serves no useful function to me or my clients,
which by the way are approaching 4 MILLION machine hours virus, spyware and
hacker free!!!


Testy

 

[Brian S. Bergin]

Sure:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2chngs.mspx

somewhere near the end of page 6.

Go back and actually read the article. The section is referring to
the Windows Installer NOT actual Windows. FTP is a MAJOR part of the
Internet and not even arrogant Microsoft would even dream of no longer
supporting it.

Sincerely,
Brian S. Bergin
Terabyte Computers, Inc.

 

[Brian S. Bergin]

Nope. I do not have and never will have SP2 installed.

Testy

Testy,

Buddy, you do have something wrong. You misread the article you
posted and now you're bashing SP2 in general. Can I ask why you even
bothered with the ßeta? Anyway, I guess you're stuck with XP SP1 and
will never upgrade to Longhorn as you have to know it will be built on
the lessons learned with XP SP2.

Sincerely,
Brian S. Bergin
Terabyte Computers, Inc.

 

[Brian S. Bergin]

As I have stated elsewhere I have Beats tested SP2 for several months for
several of my clients. The major on which supplies custom software to major
companies throughout N.A. has decided to NOT support SP 2 and has advised
all its clients to stay with SP1 or to switch to Linux which will be fully
supported. I never make statements I cannot back up but don't think I need
to state my credentials with every OPINION I post.

People have sung the Linux song to extreme. Linux has just as many or
more faults as Windows has but since about 95% LESS people in the
world run Linux than Windows they haven't been beaten up by the
hackers as yet. At least since you'll be moving on to Linux we won't
have to hear your opinions next time around.

I believe we are ALL still entitled to have our OWN opinions, correct?

Not when you haven't bothered to read what you're basing your opinions
on. You MISread one article and have canned SP2 forever.

Sincerely,
Brian S. Bergin
Terabyte Computers, Inc.

 

[Brian S. Bergin]

I personally did not have any "problems" with SP2 I just had to disable
most of its "features" it serves no useful function to me or my clients,
which by the way are approaching 4 MILLION machine hours virus, spyware and
hacker free!!!

It only takes one to ruin your entire day...

Sincerely,
Brian S. Bergin
Terabyte Computers, Inc.

 

[Robert Comer]

Supported and works are two very different things.

FTP does indeed work, but you have to tell the firewall to let it pass.

- Bob Comer

 

[Testy]

Because it was my job to do so.

Testy

Testy,

Buddy, you do have something wrong. You misread the article you
posted and now you're bashing SP2 in general. Can I ask why you even
bothered with the ßeta? Anyway, I guess you're stuck with XP SP1 and
will never upgrade to Longhorn as you have to know it will be built on
the lessons learned with XP SP2.

Sincerely,
Brian S. Bergin
Terabyte Computers, Inc.

 

[Brian S. Bergin]

Getting rid of FTP might be a tiny first step in that direction.

NO ONE IS GETTING RID OF FTP. Don't listen to this guy who didn't
bother to read the ENTIRE article.

Sincerely,
Brian S. Bergin
Terabyte Computers, Inc.

 

[Testy]

You obviously have not read any of my reason and are basing YOUR opinions
on one little misreading by me. I am not overly fond of Linux it is my
clients who are moving this way, I just follow the money.

Testy

 

[Robert Comer]

If they do, then I for one will stop posting.

You aren't the only one.

How so? I don't believe Usenet runs on FTP?

Control?.

I don't believe that MS is trying to kill FTP anyway, it's used far to much
to kill, so I won't be worrying about it.

- Bob Comer

 

[Testy]

Exactly that is why my clients are deliriously happy with my services.

Testy

 

[David Candy]

But they usually give ways to turn off the new security features. It just requires configuration.

 

[Testy]

Of course but I don't want the hassle of having to turn off everything they
think I need. There are NO features in their useful to me personally.
Besides My employers are not supporting it.

Many other Professionals feel the same way
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1631669,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594

Testy

But they usually give ways to turn off the new security features. It just
requires configuration.

 

[David Candy]

I agree MS shouldn't make such changes. The only security problems are the users. They need changing.

But programmers will write XP specific stuff so future programs won't work.

If you remember MS guaranteed that from XP onwards there WOULD BE NO changes of functionality in Service Packs, only bug fixes. They LIED.

 

[Testy]

MS lied? Next you will be telling me politicians lie too

Testy

I agree MS shouldn't make such changes. The only security problems are the
users. They need changing.

But programmers will write XP specific stuff so future programs won't work.

If you remember MS guaranteed that from XP onwards there WOULD BE NO changes
of functionality in Service Packs, only bug fixes. They LIED.

 

[Robert Moir]

As I have stated elsewhere I have Beats tested SP2 for several months
for several of my clients. The major on which supplies custom
software to major companies throughout N.A. has decided to NOT
support SP 2 and has advised all its clients to stay with SP1 or to
switch to Linux which will be fully supported. I never make
statements I cannot back up but don't think I need to state my
credentials with every OPINION I post.

That is all I'm asking you to do. Back something up. You made a claim, I
disputed it, you jumped all over me and claimed to have documentation
proving your point. I've been unable to find your evidence based on
guesswork, and the physical evidence in front of me suggests you are wrong.
At this time I believe its customary to either prove or conceed your point.

I believe we are ALL still entitled to have our OWN opinions, correct?

Quite. I'm just asking you to provide the information you used to arrive at
yours.

 

[Testy]

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1631669,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594

Testy