Software Compatibility

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Guest

I am thinking of purchasing a new computer with Vista. I have several old
Microsoft Programs (Microsoft Office Professional 2000) and QuickBooks
Professional that I'm hoping will be compatible. I have not needed to
upgrade the softwares before but I'm not sure they will run with Vista. I'd
hate to have to shell out for the computer AND the software at the same time.
Has anyone attempted to run these programs under Vista? Will I need to
uninstall the Microsoft Works that comes with the Vista? Will I need to
install using XP compatibility mode?

Thanks, any help is appreciated.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

I am thinking of purchasing a new computer with Vista. I have several old
Microsoft Programs (Microsoft Office Professional 2000) and QuickBooks
Professional that I'm hoping will be compatible. I have not needed to
upgrade the softwares before but I'm not sure they will run with Vista. I'd
hate to have to shell out for the computer AND the software at the same time.
Has anyone attempted to run these programs under Vista?


I don't know about Quickbooks, especially since you dn't specify a
version, but Office 2000 works, except for a problem with E-mail logon
info being saved in Outlook.

Will I need to
uninstall the Microsoft Works that comes with the Vista?



?? Microsoft Works does *not* come with Vista.

Will I need to
install using XP compatibility mode?


Maybe. It depends on the particular program.
 
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Guest

Ken Blake said:
I don't know about Quickbooks, especially since you dn't specify a
version, but Office 2000 works, except for a problem with E-mail logon
info being saved in Outlook.





?? Microsoft Works does *not* come with Vista.




Maybe. It depends on the particular program.


Sorry, the Quickbooks Pro version is also 2000.

I don't understand about the problem with E-mail logon info being saved in
Outlook.

The Microsoft Works program is offered on the computer I'm considering
purchasing. Microsoft Works 8 is what is pre-loaded.
 
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Dave T.

I don't know about Quickbooks, especially since you dn't specify a
version, but Office 2000 works, except for a problem with E-mail logon
info being saved in Outlook.

Ken,

I read a post in the performance and maintenance forum about installing
apps to Vista with a clean boot. What's your take on this?
 
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Charlie Tame

Dave said:
Ken,

I read a post in the performance and maintenance forum about installing
apps to Vista with a clean boot. What's your take on this?


Do you mean clean boot, install one app, restart, install next app and
so on, even if the installers don't call for it?

If so I would agree, no technical explanation at all but things seem to
go smoother that way.

Definitely would say to do that with anything driver related.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Ken,

I read a post in the performance and maintenance forum about installing
apps to Vista with a clean boot. What's your take on this?



Sorry, I have no experience with it, so I can't comment.
 
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Dave T.

Charlie said:
Do you mean clean boot, install one app, restart, install next app and
so on, even if the installers don't call for it?

If so I would agree, no technical explanation at all but things seem to
go smoother that way.

Definitely would say to do that with anything driver related.

Curious...the poster I speak of claimed that he can and has installed
virtually any old app to Vista using that method, and they all run
problem free.
This is all just for conversation as far as I am concerned. I am that
guy you may have heard of who has been using Vista since May and have
had less problems than I did when I had XP.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Too literal, Ken?


I don't think so at all, Lang. This is someone who is planning to buy
a computer with Vista, and thinks that therefore he will get a copy of
Microsoft Works with it. That's wrong, and if he doesn't understand
that, he may be surprised at what he gets.

Surely it "comes" on some PC's that are delivered with Vista? No?


Certainly. But that's very different from saying that it comes with
Vista. It's the decision of the vendor who sells the computer as to
what he wants to bundle with it. Some computers come with no bundled
software, some come with Microsoft Works, some come with Microsoft
Office, some come with Corel WordPerfect Office, and so on, but none
of this software comes with Vista.

There is a very large number of people who bought a Windows computer
that came with Microsoft Office, then bought a newer computer with a
newer version of Windows, and write to the newsgroups asking why they
can't find Office. They didn't understand that Office is not part of
any version of Windows, and the only reason they had it before is that
it was part of a bundled offering from *their* vendor. Exactly the
same is true of Works and Vista.
 
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Lang Murphy

Ken Blake said:
I don't think so at all, Lang. This is someone who is planning to buy
a computer with Vista, and thinks that therefore he will get a copy of
Microsoft Works with it. That's wrong, and if he doesn't understand
that, he may be surprised at what he gets.




Certainly. But that's very different from saying that it comes with
Vista. It's the decision of the vendor who sells the computer as to
what he wants to bundle with it. Some computers come with no bundled
software, some come with Microsoft Works, some come with Microsoft
Office, some come with Corel WordPerfect Office, and so on, but none
of this software comes with Vista.

There is a very large number of people who bought a Windows computer
that came with Microsoft Office, then bought a newer computer with a
newer version of Windows, and write to the newsgroups asking why they
can't find Office. They didn't understand that Office is not part of
any version of Windows, and the only reason they had it before is that
it was part of a bundled offering from *their* vendor. Exactly the
same is true of Works and Vista.


Yeah, I know all that stuff... I just thought that your reply was a tad on
the literal side without explaining the details as you have above, that's
all...

Peace, bro.

Lang
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Yeah, I know all that stuff... I just thought that your reply was a tad on
the literal side without explaining the details as you have above, that's
all...

Peace, bro.


If you're saying that my reply was perhaps too curt, and I could have
explained it better, I'll grant you that.
 
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larry tandy

goins353 said:
I am thinking of purchasing a new computer with Vista. I have several old
Microsoft Programs (Microsoft Office Professional 2000) and QuickBooks
Professional that I'm hoping will be compatible. I have not needed to
upgrade the softwares before but I'm not sure they will run with Vista. I'd
hate to have to shell out for the computer AND the software at the same time.
Has anyone attempted to run these programs under Vista? Will I need to
uninstall the Microsoft Works that comes with the Vista? Will I need to
install using XP compatibility mode?

Thanks, any help is appreciated.
 
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larry tandy

I have a friend using Windows XP 2002 and if he sends me a word document
attachment I cannot open it with the Vista Home Basic program. Attempts to
get response from Microsoft have been fruitless. I would not have bought the
Vista software had I thought it would be incompatible with other microsoft
software.
 
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David

Well, you have to have a program installed on your computer that will open
..doc files. All Windows versions have been that way. If you don't want to
purchase Microsoft Office, you can try OpenOffice, a free program.

Or, you can try this,
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891090

But with Word Viewer you can't edit a document or create a new one.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

I have a friend using Windows XP 2002 and if he sends me a word document
attachment I cannot open it with the Vista Home Basic program. Attempts to
get response from Microsoft have been fruitless. I would not have bought the
Vista software had I thought it would be incompatible with other microsoft
software.


This has *nothing* to do with your friend's using Windows XP or with
your having bought the Vista software. Vista is *not* incompatible
with other Microsoft software, and can deal with Word documents just
fine.

Vista Home Basic is an operating system. Neither it, nor any other
operating system, can open a Word document file. To open a Word
document file (presumably a .doc file) you need to have installed a
copy of Word, or some compatible program.

If you expected Word to come with Vista, let me make it clear that
*no* version of Windows has ever included Excel, Word, PowerPoint,
Access, or any other significant application software. Such programs
have to be bought, either by themselves or as part of Microsoft
Office.

If your previous computer, running an older version of Windows, came
with one or more such programs, it was because the vendor who sold it
bundled it as part of the package he sold you, not because that
version of Windows came with it. Some, but not all, vendors do the
same with Windows Vista. Yours apparently did not.

If you want Word, you need to buy it, either alone, as part of
Microsoft Office, or, most inexpensively, as part of Microsoft Works
*Suite* (not the regular Works). Alternatively, you can acquire
another less expensive or even free word processor, such as that
included with WordPerfect Office, StarOffice, or OpenOffice (all of
those can open Word files).

And if just want to view your friend's Word files, but not modify them
or create your own, you can download the free Microsoft Word viewer
from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...87-8732-48D5-8689-AB826E7B8FDF&displaylang=en
or http://tinyurl.com/3qlb4

One other point: opening executable attachments (and Word files can
have embedded macros, and are therefore executable) is a very
dangerous practice. You often see advice not to open attachments from
people you don't know. I think that that's one of the most dangerous
pieces of advice you see around, because it implies that it's safe to
do the opposite--open attachments from friends and relatives. But many
viruses spread by sending themselves to everyone in the infected
party's address book, so attachments received from what purports to be
your friend are perhaps the *most* risky to open.

Even if the attachment legitimately comes from a friend, it can
contain a virus. I'm not suggesting that a friend is likely to send
you a virus on purpose, but if the friend is infected without
realizing it, any attachment he sends you is likely to also be
infected.

I never open executable attachments at all, except from a *very* few
trusted sources, and then only when I'm expecting them.
 
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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

You might need to invest in a new version of QuickBooks, at least version
2007 or later, some persons have had luck with Office 2000 on Vista. Its not
certified for Windows Vista, so it is not guaranteed that it will work
properly, just make sure you install the latest Service Pack for it. You
won't have to uninstall Microsoft Works they coexist just fine.
 

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