Slow Start Up

[John R]

With XP Home Edition after the selected wall paper appears the machine goes
very slow with little apparent action. What is going on and can I accelerate
this step in start up (same on a restart)?.

 

[R. McCarty]

Based on my testing from the appearance of the background to
Icons/Toolbars and usable desktop takes ~32-35 seconds. This
doesn't take into account 3rd-Party services and Startup and
Watchdogs that add additional boot time.

The minimal boot cycle time for your PC is starting Safe Mode.
Even this can't really be compared to a normal boot since it uses
generic drivers and no 3rd-Party content is loaded.

Shutdown time can sometimes be improved by downloading &
installing the MS add-on Service "User Profile Hive Cleanup":
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6d-8912-4e18-b570-42470e2f3582&DisplayLang=en

 

[Rock]

With XP Home Edition after the selected wall paper appears the machine
goes very slow with little apparent action. What is going on and can I
accelerate this step in start up (same on a restart)?.

You could do some clean boot troubleshooting to see if a particular program
or 3rd party service is causing the slow response.

Clean Boot Troubleshooting

How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=316434

How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310353

 

[databaseben]

could be a very large kb of a wallpaper.


keeping in mind that there is only so much
room for a humongous wallpaper plus
the images used to compose the desktop.

what are your results if you boot without one?

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

With XP Home Edition after the selected wall paper appears the
machine goes very slow with little apparent action. What is going on
and can I accelerate this step in start up (same on a restart)?.

My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it takes
to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is otherwise
satisfactory, it may not be worth worrying about. Most people start their
computers once a day or even less frequently. In the overall scheme of
things, even a few minutes to start up isn't very important. Personally I
power on my computer when I get up in the morning, then go get my coffee.
When I come back, it's done booting. I don't know how long it took to boot
and I don't care.

However if you do want to address it, it may be because of what programs
start automatically, and you may want to stop some of them from starting
that way. On each program you don't want to start automatically, check its
Options to see if it has the choice not to start (make sure you actually
choose the option not to run it, not just a "don't show icon" option). Many
can easily and best be stopped that way. If that doesn't work, run MSCONFIG
from the Start | Run line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you
don't want to start automatically.

However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of running
the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people tell you, you
should be concerned, not with how *many* of these programs you run, but
*which*. Some of them can hurt performance severely, but others have no
effect on performance.

Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do is
determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what the cost
in performance is of its running all the time. You can get more information
about these at http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it
there, try google searches and ask about specifics here.

Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed
decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of.

 

[Rock]

could be a very large kb of a wallpaper.


keeping in mind that there is only so much
room for a humongous wallpaper plus
the images used to compose the desktop.

what are your results if you boot without one?

"John R"wrote

Interesting. How much room is there, is there a quantification for it or a
limit for it? If so what happens when you reach it?

 

[databaseben]

it all depends on the pc and
the pic....

a 100 megabyte wallpaper would
not be helpful to an average pc....

 

[Gerry Cornell]

John

Anti-virus programmes often do a full system scan on start up. The
operating system checks for updates. Messenger may sign in. Look at
the icons in the notification tray ( bottom right next to time) for
activity.

You can always check the Application and System logs in Event Viewer
for Warning / Error Reports.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer.
Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the
message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event
Viewer.


--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per John R:

With XP Home Edition after the selected wall paper appears the machine goes
very slow with little apparent action. What is going on and can I accelerate
this step in start up (same on a restart)?.

Dunno, but one workaround might be putting the PC into "Sleep" mode instead of
turning it off.

There are different levels of sleep supported by different motherboards.

Mine supports level 3. Power consumption in Sleep3 seems tb zero and wake-up is
only a few seconds at most.

 

[Rock]

it all depends on the pc and
the pic....

a 100 megabyte wallpaper would
not be helpful to an average pc....


"Rock" wrote

I was asking for specifics. Where does this limit to the amount of "room"
come from? Where did you get the information that there is a limit? What
is the limit?

 

[databaseben]

basically,
i only respond to questions
from the o.p.'s and when
it i am in the mood to provide
a little help based on my many
years of experience and education.

i provide a response as
a courtesy to you.

If you some assistance
regarding an issue you are having
then create a new thread and post
your question like others do.

however, it is possible that
your fellow mvp's can provide
you with some assistance as well.

g.l. with your search for easy answers........

 

[Rock]

basically,
i only respond to questions
from the o.p.'s and when
it i am in the mood to provide
a little help based on my many
years of experience and education.

i provide a response as
a courtesy to you.

If you some assistance
regarding an issue you are having
then create a new thread and post
your question like others do.

however, it is possible that
your fellow mvp's can provide
you with some assistance as well.

g.l. with your search for easy answers........

So we have got down to the same result as many of your other posts. When
challenged you can't backup the majority of what you say. You throw out
words/concepts that have no context or meaning for the OP's problem. If
there was any information to backup what you spout, you would provide it.
By the very fact that your responses devolve to this point, proves you are
full of hot air and bull. You are a troll, hardly better than Andrew E.

 

[databaseben]

clearly, you don't understand
that rocks gather no moss when
they do not turn..

if you try rolling with humulity and experience
you might gather some. as mentioned if you
truly have a problem then simply create a
new thread requesting for assistance.

however, it seems you do not have a problem
with "Slow Start Up" or the like. but clearly
there is a problem with your attitude.

you have a your disposal many mvp's
that can teach you some things. Unfortunatly
I am not in the mood to be your mentor and
spend my valuable time with unhelpful rhetoric.

however, you may not beleive this but I am
a nice and helpful guy - really.

it is because there are some MVP's who
have earned my respect, i highly recommend an MVP named Ramesh. He is
highly intelligent and a firm professional

Maybe if you ask him, he can provide you with assistance
in both of the areas you are having issues with.

and if by chance he cannot then maybe he
can point you into the right direction. it is
a character trait among ourselves that
understanding how and where to look for the answers,
is wiser than pretending to know them all.

if nothing above suits you or makes any sense,
then i recommend that you use your own machine and recreate the problem. you
can then backwards engineer the affect and discover the cause and the answer
you
are whining for..

i am confident that you have the skills necessary to
insure a recovery from your controlled experiment.

since it seems there is no further
issues from the o.p., i will unflag this
thread and move on to the next person
who has an earnest problem and seeks
anyone that can provide some helpful information.

good bye.

basically,
i only respond to questions
from the o.p.'s and when
it i am in the mood to provide
a little help based on my many
years of experience and education.

i provide a response as
a courtesy to you.

If you some assistance
regarding an issue you are having
then create a new thread and post
your question like others do.

however, it is possible that
your fellow mvp's can provide
you with some assistance as well.

g.l. with your search for easy answers........

it all depends on the pc and
the pic....

a 100 megabyte wallpaper would
not be helpful to an average pc....




could be a very large kb of a wallpaper.


keeping in mind that there is only so much
room for a humongous wallpaper plus
the images used to compose the desktop.

what are your results if you boot without one?

"John R"wrote

With XP Home Edition after the selected wall paper appears the
machine goes very slow with little apparent action. What is going on
and can I accelerate this step in start up (same on a restart)?.

Interesting. How much room is there, is there a quantification for it
or a limit for it? If so what happens when you reach it?

--
Rock [MVP - User/Shell]

I was asking for specifics. Where does this limit to the amount of
"room" come from? Where did you get the information that there is a
limit? What is the limit?

So we have got down to the same result as many of your other posts. When
challenged you can't backup the majority of what you say. You throw out
words/concepts that have no context or meaning for the OP's problem. If
there was any information to backup what you spout, you would provide it.
By the very fact that your responses devolve to this point, proves you are
full of hot air and bull. You are a troll, hardly better than Andrew E.

 

[Rock]

clearly, you don't understand
that rocks gather no moss when
they do not turn..

if you try rolling with humulity and experience
you might gather some. as mentioned if you
truly have a problem then simply create a
new thread requesting for assistance.

however, it seems you do not have a problem
with "Slow Start Up" or the like. but clearly
there is a problem with your attitude.

you have a your disposal many mvp's
that can teach you some things. Unfortunatly
I am not in the mood to be your mentor and
spend my valuable time with unhelpful rhetoric.

however, you may not beleive this but I am
a nice and helpful guy - really.

it is because there are some MVP's who
have earned my respect, i highly recommend an MVP named Ramesh. He is
highly intelligent and a firm professional

Maybe if you ask him, he can provide you with assistance
in both of the areas you are having issues with.

and if by chance he cannot then maybe he
can point you into the right direction. it is
a character trait among ourselves that
understanding how and where to look for the answers,
is wiser than pretending to know them all.

if nothing above suits you or makes any sense,
then i recommend that you use your own machine and recreate the problem.
you can then backwards engineer the affect and discover the cause and the
answer you
are whining for..

i am confident that you have the skills necessary to
insure a recovery from your controlled experiment.

since it seems there is no further
issues from the o.p., i will unflag this
thread and move on to the next person
who has an earnest problem and seeks
anyone that can provide some helpful information.

good bye.

basically,
i only respond to questions
from the o.p.'s and when
it i am in the mood to provide
a little help based on my many
years of experience and education.

i provide a response as
a courtesy to you.

If you some assistance
regarding an issue you are having
then create a new thread and post
your question like others do.

however, it is possible that
your fellow mvp's can provide
you with some assistance as well.

g.l. with your search for easy answers........





it all depends on the pc and
the pic....

a 100 megabyte wallpaper would
not be helpful to an average pc....




could be a very large kb of a wallpaper.


keeping in mind that there is only so much
room for a humongous wallpaper plus
the images used to compose the desktop.

what are your results if you boot without one?

"John R"wrote

With XP Home Edition after the selected wall paper appears the
machine goes very slow with little apparent action. What is going
on and can I accelerate this step in start up (same on a restart)?.

Interesting. How much room is there, is there a quantification for
it or a limit for it? If so what happens when you reach it?

--
Rock [MVP - User/Shell]

I was asking for specifics. Where does this limit to the amount of
"room" come from? Where did you get the information that there is a
limit? What is the limit?

So we have got down to the same result as many of your other posts. When
challenged you can't backup the majority of what you say. You throw out
words/concepts that have no context or meaning for the OP's problem. If
there was any information to backup what you spout, you would provide it.
By the very fact that your responses devolve to this point, proves you
are full of hot air and bull. You are a troll, hardly better than Andrew
E.

Yes move on to trolling the next person with your useless drivel. And the
legitimate posters in here will continue to debunk the garbage you spill
out.