Correct - IE6 does not support many CSS1 or CSS2 elements (or Html elements)
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| > Now if we could just get rid of it (from all users) we wouldn't be wasting
| > our trying to make it behave (-;
|
| We sure don't disagree on that one.
|
| > Supports, to me, means render consistently in browser according to the W3C
| > Guidelines without taking any corrective action
|
| So in that sense, then, you would say that IE6 does not support CSS, right?
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| --
| Murray
|
| | > We can agree to disagree (-;
| >
| > Supports, to me, means render consistently in browser according to the W3C
| > Guidelines without taking any corrective action
| >
| > Sure you can "force" it to try to "behave" better if you add CSS (as you
| > had to)
| >
| > Now if we could just get rid of it (from all users) we wouldn't be wasting
| > our trying to make it behave (-;
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | > | Don't you hate it when you rant, and then discover that you're wrong? I
| > do!
| > |
| > | But first, to say that NN4x doesn't support table backgrounds *is*
| > wrong, or
| > | misleading at best. Take a look here *with NN4x* -
| > |
| > |
http://www.murraytestsite.com/tablebackground.html - a simple
| > demonstration
| > | that NN4x does support them.
| > |
| > | Then look here -
| > |
| > |
http://www.murraytestsite.com/tablebackground2.html - a disturbingly
| > simple
| > | demonstration that NN4x does not support them in any way you'd expect.
| > |
| > | What is clear is that NN4x CAN support the background image in a table,
| > but
| > | you have to whack it with a 2x4 first. Among the many things that NN4x
| > | absolutely does NOT support is the CSS for controlling background
| > repeating,
| > | which is why you see the background begin to title in that first link.
| > |
| > | So - I owe you an apology. But, it is still true that NN4x does support
| > | table background images! 8)
| > |
| > | --
| > | Murray
| > |
| > | | > | > That means it does not support it, it renders it incorrectly (as cell
| > | > tiled vs as table untiled)
| > | > - table backgrounds should never be rendered as individual cell
| > | > backgrounds
| > | >
| > | > If it supported it, it would not tile it into the cells (and chop it
| > up
| > | > due to repeats)
| > | > To say it supports it if you apply it as a cell bk does not make it
| > | > support it, that just masks the rendering error or puts it where
| > | > it is supported - only in cells in NN4x
| > | >
| > | > Did you look at the sample page link
| > | > - no table backgrounds used but NN4x tiles into the cell w/o a bk
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | <sigh>
| > | > |
| > | > | NN4x DOES support table backgrounds. Try it. However, that
| > background
| > | > is
| > | > | inherited (incorrectly) into each cell. This is simple to fix. Put
| > the
| > | > | background on an outer, single cell table. Nest your content in an
| > | > inner
| > | > | table. Or use the simple fix you described in your previous post of
| > | > | explicit transparent GIF images in the cells to prevent the table's
| > | > | background from inheriting.
| > | > |
| > | > | There is no problem with individual cell backgrounds in NN4x.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Murray
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > No I meant cell backgrounds for the tiling issue
| > | > | > Suggest you look at
http://www.frankkimmel.com/default0.htm in
| > NN4x
| > | > for an
| > | > | > example of NN tiling cell backgrounds when they are not
| > | > | > applied to all cells
| > | > | > And NN4x does not support table backgrounds
| > | > | > --
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > NN4x does not support table backgrounds (only cell
| > backgrounds)
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | While your workaround is mostly correct, this statement is not.
| > | > NN4x
| > | > | > does
| > | > | > | support table backgrounds (but only in the way you would expect
| > if
| > | > your
| > | > | > | table is a single cell).
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > If you use cell backgrounds in NN 4x it will tile into all
| > other
| > | > cells
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I'm sure you meant to say "If you use table backgrounds in
| > NN...",
| > | > | > right?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Try this -
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Create a single cell table, and apply the background to the
| > table.
| > | > Now
| > | > | > nest
| > | > | > | a new table in that single cell. You can have as many cells as
| > you
| > | > want
| > | > | > in
| > | > | > | that new table and they do not inherit the parent's background
| > | > image,
| > | > | > right?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | That's a good workaround.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | Murray
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | | > | > | > | > FYI
| > | > | > | > NN4x does not support table backgrounds (only cell
| > backgrounds)
| > | > | > | > If you use cell backgrounds in NN 4x it will tile into all
| > other
| > | > cells
| > | > | > | > - unless you use a transparent .gif as a cell background in
| > the
| > | > other
| > | > | > | > cells you don't want a background in
| > | > | > | > This applies to nested tables too, so if you create a 1 cell
| > table
| > | > | > (and
| > | > | > | > apply a cell background to get the same effect as a table
| > | > | > | > background in NN4), apply transparent .gifs to all the cells
| > in
| > | > the
| > | > | > nested
| > | > | > | > table or you may get background tiling
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > | >
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I am working on site using FP2003. I used back ground images
| > for
| > | > | > some
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | cell layouts and no content in the cell for some.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | 1) What is the significance of using a spacer.gif. say a 1x1
| > in
| > | > the
| > | > | > cell
| > | > | > | > or
| > | > | > | > | table that has the background image?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | 2) Does the spacer have to be the size of the cell or table?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | 3) Also I can't figure out why my second image from the top
| > is
| > | > | > starting
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | repeat a few pixels on a Apple IE 5.2. On Safari and PC IE6
| > it
| > | > looks
| > | > | > | > fine.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | 4) What would keep a user from seeing the formatting based
| > on a
| > | > | > sytle
| > | > | > | > sheet?
| > | > | > | > | I spoke with one person that is on a PC IE6 and they do not
| > see
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > formated
| > | > | > | > | text correctly it appears to them as the courier font? I do
| > see
| > | > it
| > | > | > | > | correctly on 2 different systems.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | The test page is
www.frankkimmel.com/default0.htm
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