Did you install MS Security Essentials beta or Windows Defender
and is Automatic Updates configured to the Notify Only setting?
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
I do have my Auto Update configured to Notify Only and as far as what
has updated here is a list of my last 2 weeks update history.
Windows XP Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Data Filter (KB
911895)
Windows XP Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Data Filter (KB
911895)
Windows XP Update to .NET Fk 3.5 SP1 for .NET Fk Assist 1.0x86 (KB963707)
Windows XP Cumulative Security Update for IExplorer 7 Win XP (KB969897)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB961501)
Windows XP Update Rollup for ActiveX Killbits for Windows XP (KB969898)
Windows XP Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool June 2009 (KB890830)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB970238)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB968537)
Well I don't think so I cannot find it in programs etc.1a. Is MS Security Essentials beta installed? [Yes/No]
I don't think so I cannot find it either1b. Is OneCare installed [Yes/No]
No it says everything is up to date, which is not surprising since I2a. Does http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com take you to a Windows Update webpage or a Microsoft Update webpage?
2b. If you go to that page, select CUSTOM and scan, what (if any)
updates are offered?
here is a paste of the bottom of my log file, but not sure if this is telling me much.The very bottom/end of your WindowsUpdate.log would probably tell you more about these "Signature Updates"
PA said:A week ago I got the windows update for signature something
and now every day I'm getting this Signature Update msg box
asking me to OK another signature update download.
What is all of this and is it important ?
:
Did you install MS Security Essentials beta or Windows Defender
and is Automatic Updates configured to the Notify Only setting?
I do have my Auto Update configured to Notify Only and as far as what
has updated here is a list of my last 2 weeks update history.
Windows XP Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Data Filter (KB
911895)
Windows XP Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Data Filter (KB
911895)
Windows XP Update to .NET Fk 3.5 SP1 for .NET Fk Assist 1.0x86
(KB963707)
Windows XP Cumulative Security Update for IExplorer 7 Win XP (KB969897)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB961501)
Windows XP Update Rollup for ActiveX Killbits for Windows XP (KB969898)
Windows XP Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool June 2009 (KB890830)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB970238)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB968537)
None of those involve "Signature Updates," RB, and I suspect that most of
them were installed more than "a week ago."
1a. Is MS Security Essentials beta installed? [Yes/No]
1b. Is OneCare installed [Yes/No]
2a. Does http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com take you to a Windows Update
webpage or a Microsoft Update webpage?
2b. If you go to that page, select CUSTOM and scan, what (if any) updates
are offered?
The very bottom/end of your WindowsUpdate.log would probably tell you
more
about these "Signature Updates" than the Update History section at
Windows/Microsoft Update page.
How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093
RB said:"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message1a. Is MS Security Essentials beta installed? [Yes/No]
Well I don't think so I cannot find it in programs etc.
1b. Is OneCare installed [Yes/No]
I don't think so I cannot find it either
2a. Does http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com take you to a Windows Update
webpage or a Microsoft Update webpage?
2b. If you go to that page, select CUSTOM and scan, what (if any)
updates are offered?
No it says everything is up to date, which is not surprising since I
always check download when prompted to update.
The very bottom/end of your WindowsUpdate.log would probably tell you
more
about these "Signature Updates"
here is a paste of the bottom of my log file, but not sure if this is
telling me much.
2009-05-18 20:49:28:984 1792 e48 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\wuredir.cab:
2009-07-07 19:38:32:757 3204 160 Misc = Process: C:\Program
Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE 2009-07-07 19:38:32:757 3204 160 Misc
= Module: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuweb.dll 2009-07-07 19:38:32:757 3204 160
Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv3wuredir.cab:
2009-07-07 19:38:32:944 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07
19:38:33:085 3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv3wuredir.cab:
2009-07-07 19:38:33:100 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07
19:38:33:163 3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wuident.cab: 2009-07-07
19:38:33:194 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07 19:38:33:272
3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wuident.cab: 2009-07-07
19:38:33:288 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07 19:38:34:288
3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wsus3setup.cab: 2009-07-07
19:38:34:304 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07 19:38:34:319
3204 160 Setup *********** Setup: Checking whether self-update is
required
*********** 2009-07-07 19:38:34:335 3204 160 Setup * Inf file:
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wsus3setup.inf 2009-07-07
19:38:34:397 3204 1
previous message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup, and do NOT
post your answers inline. Thank you.
You did not answer #2a.
Are you certain that the "signature update download" prompt is coming from
Automatic Updates?
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)?
Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?
--
PA Bear said:"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in messageA week ago I got the windows update for signature something
and now every day I'm getting this Signature Update msg box
asking me to OK another signature update download.
What is all of this and is it important ?
:
Did you install MS Security Essentials beta or Windows Defender
and is Automatic Updates configured to the Notify Only setting?
I do have my Auto Update configured to Notify Only and as far as what
has updated here is a list of my last 2 weeks update history.
Windows XP Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Data Filter (KB
911895)
Windows XP Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Data Filter (KB
911895)
Windows XP Update to .NET Fk 3.5 SP1 for .NET Fk Assist 1.0x86
(KB963707)
Windows XP Cumulative Security Update for IExplorer 7 Win XP (KB969897)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB961501)
Windows XP Update Rollup for ActiveX Killbits for Windows XP (KB969898)
Windows XP Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool June 2009 (KB890830)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB970238)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB968537)1a. Is MS Security Essentials beta installed? [Yes/No]
Well I don't think so I cannot find it in programs etc.
1b. Is OneCare installed [Yes/No]
I don't think so I cannot find it either
2a. Does http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com take you to a Windows Update
webpage or a Microsoft Update webpage?
2b. If you go to that page, select CUSTOM and scan, what (if any)
updates are offered?
No it says everything is up to date, which is not surprising since I
always check download when prompted to update.
The very bottom/end of your WindowsUpdate.log would probably tell you
more
about these "Signature Updates"
here is a paste of the bottom of my log file, but not sure if this is
telling me much.
2009-05-18 20:49:28:984 1792 e48 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\wuredir.cab:
2009-07-07 19:38:32:757 3204 160 Misc = Process: C:\Program
Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE 2009-07-07 19:38:32:757 3204 160 Misc
= Module: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuweb.dll 2009-07-07 19:38:32:757 3204 160
Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv3wuredir.cab:
2009-07-07 19:38:32:944 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07
19:38:33:085 3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv3wuredir.cab:
2009-07-07 19:38:33:100 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07
19:38:33:163 3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wuident.cab: 2009-07-07
19:38:33:194 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07 19:38:33:272
3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wuident.cab: 2009-07-07
19:38:33:288 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07 19:38:34:288
3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wsus3setup.cab: 2009-07-07
19:38:34:304 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07 19:38:34:319
3204 160 Setup *********** Setup: Checking whether self-update is
required
*********** 2009-07-07 19:38:34:335 3204 160 Setup * Inf file:
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wsus3setup.inf 2009-07-07
19:38:34:397 3204 1
[To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you quote all of the
previous message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup, and do NOT post your
answers inline. Thank you.]
You did not answer #2a.
The section of the WindowsUpdate.log you posted made no reference to a
"Signature Update."
Are you certain that the "signature update download" prompt is coming from
Automatic Updates?
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
What third-party firewall (if any)?
Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?
RB said:Sorry, I've included the entire message thread below. I do not know what
exactly you mean "answers inline" ? I use MS Outlook Express so it
shows all of the thread etc for each post and reply.
You did not answer #2a.
Sorry, I did answer 2b which would have been impossible to do if
I had done what 2a referred to ?
Are you certain that the "signature update download" prompt is coming
from Automatic Updates?
Well, I'm starting to wonder now.
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than
Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
I run Security Shield Suite 2009 (which uses Bit Defender's engine) It
has firewall,
antivirus, antispan and anti spyware.Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?
--
McAfee has but I uninstalled it using McAfee's uninstaller remover prior to
installing Security Shield. But I have had Security Shield for quite
some time
before I started getting these recent messages. I'm not sure if I can
attach GIF
files on this group but if I could send you a screen capture of the
message box maybe you could identiy it ?
----------previous threads---------
PA Bear said:A week ago I got the windows update for signature something
and now every day I'm getting this Signature Update msg box
asking me to OK another signature update download.
What is all of this and is it important ?
:
Did you install MS Security Essentials beta or Windows Defender
and is Automatic Updates configured to the Notify Only setting?
I do have my Auto Update configured to Notify Only and as far as what
has updated here is a list of my last 2 weeks update history.
Windows XP Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Data Filter (KB
911895)
Windows XP Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Data Filter (KB
911895)
Windows XP Update to .NET Fk 3.5 SP1 for .NET Fk Assist 1.0x86
(KB963707)
Windows XP Cumulative Security Update for IExplorer 7 Win XP
(KB969897)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB961501)
Windows XP Update Rollup for ActiveX Killbits for Windows XP
(KB969898)
Windows XP Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool June 2009
(KB890830)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB970238)
Windows XP Security Update for Windows XP (KB968537)
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
1a. Is MS Security Essentials beta installed? [Yes/No]
Well I don't think so I cannot find it in programs etc.
1b. Is OneCare installed [Yes/No]
I don't think so I cannot find it either
2a. Does http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com take you to a Windows
Update
webpage or a Microsoft Update webpage?
2b. If you go to that page, select CUSTOM and scan, what (if any)
updates are offered?
No it says everything is up to date, which is not surprising since I
always check download when prompted to update.
The very bottom/end of your WindowsUpdate.log would probably tell
you more
about these "Signature Updates"
here is a paste of the bottom of my log file, but not sure if this is
telling me much.
2009-05-18 20:49:28:984 1792 e48 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\wuredir.cab:
2009-07-07 19:38:32:757 3204 160 Misc = Process: C:\Program
Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE 2009-07-07 19:38:32:757 3204 160
Misc = Module: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuweb.dll 2009-07-07 19:38:32:757
3204 160
Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv3wuredir.cab:
2009-07-07 19:38:32:944 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07
19:38:33:085 3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv3wuredir.cab:
2009-07-07 19:38:33:100 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07
19:38:33:163 3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wuident.cab: 2009-07-07
19:38:33:194 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07
19:38:33:272
3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wuident.cab: 2009-07-07
19:38:33:288 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07
19:38:34:288
3204 160 Misc Validating signature for
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wsus3setup.cab: 2009-07-07
19:38:34:304 3204 160 Misc Microsoft signed: Yes 2009-07-07
19:38:34:319
3204 160 Setup *********** Setup: Checking whether self-update is
required
*********** 2009-07-07 19:38:34:335 3204 160 Setup * Inf file:
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WebSetup\wsus3setup.inf 2009-07-07
19:38:34:397 3204 1
[To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you quote all of the
previous message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup, and do NOT post
your answers inline. Thank you.]
You did not answer #2a.
The section of the WindowsUpdate.log you posted made no reference to a
"Signature Update."
Are you certain that the "signature update download" prompt is coming
from Automatic Updates?
What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than
Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?