Shut Down Problem After SP2

S

snowball

After successfully loading sp2, the only problem I have encountered is a
slow shut down on xp home. It takes almost two minutes every I shut down. In
event viewer under application, event ID 1517 shows on each shut down or log
off. I followed Kelly's advice and installed uphclean which actually caused
the two minute shut down. Prior to it's installation, I received the event
1517 always, but shut down time was normal( about 10 seconds). After I
installed uphclean, the event 1517 was removed, but it now took two ninutes
to shut down. I have now uninstalled uphclean, and the event: id 1517 has
returned and it now still takes two minutes to shut down.It appears uphclean
had extended the shut down tome somehow.Because this utility addresses the
xp registry user profile retention error: ID (1517), I booted to the welcome
screen only and did not load any of the four user profiles I have, then I
shut down from there and it still took about two minutes to shut down. Is
there anything I can do to try to trace what program or service is holding
the registry, or is this not the only problem and something else from the
sp2 upgrade, or uphclean is causing the problem? Any help appreciated.This
is the only problem I am experiencing with sp2.
 
G

Guest

Frequently this is as a result of choosing an option that says something like
this "Clear Pagefile on Shutdown". What this in fact does is overwrite your
existing pagefile with 0's thus causing the 2 minute shutdown time. Never use
this option and if you have then uncheck or unselect it or at worst
completely uninstall the program that caused the extended shut down. There
are several registry tweaks that you can make to improve shutdown times. Like
"end hung app timeout" "low level hooks timeout", "Auto End Tasks". "Wait to
kill Service" . I have mine set to 500. The values are as follows. 1000 = 1
sec, 500 = 1\2 second, 250 = 1\4 second and so on. Do an internet search for
these registry tweaks and then see if you want to attempt them.
 
S

snowball

Interesting. I have tried several of these option and they don't work. I
seem to recall,however, loadind a tweak from Kelly's probably that read
something like clearing a pagefile. Would you know the undo for something
like that. Incidentally, I also unloaded all the start up progs. in msconfig
and that didn't help so it's not start up programs. Thanks.
 
I

Incognitus

snowball said:
Interesting. I have tried several of these option and they don't work. I
seem to recall,however, loadind a tweak from Kelly's probably that read
something like clearing a pagefile. Would you know the undo for something
like that. Incidentally, I also unloaded all the start up progs. in
msconfig and that didn't help so it's not start up programs. Thanks.

I take it you used 'shutdown.reg', below is the contents:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory
Management]
"ClearPageFileAtShutdown"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop]
"AutoEndTasks"="1"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]
"WaitToKillServiceTimeout"="1000"


If you'll change these two back:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory
Management]
"ClearPageFileAtShutdown"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop]
"AutoEndTasks"="0"

I'm sure your shutdown will be back to normal, the third one has a default
of 20000, but 1000 is working fine here.

My default settings for SP2 were:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory
Management]
"ClearPageFileAtShutdown"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop]
"AutoEndTasks"="0"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]
"WaitToKillServiceTimeout"="20000"
 
S

snowball

Made those changes Incognitos and they didn't work. I'm afraid the sp2
installation caused a difficult to solve problem or the uhpclean utility.


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Incognitus said:
snowball said:
Interesting. I have tried several of these option and they don't work. I
seem to recall,however, loadind a tweak from Kelly's probably that read
something like clearing a pagefile. Would you know the undo for something
like that. Incidentally, I also unloaded all the start up progs. in
msconfig and that didn't help so it's not start up programs. Thanks.

I take it you used 'shutdown.reg', below is the contents:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\Memory Management]
"ClearPageFileAtShutdown"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop]
"AutoEndTasks"="1"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]
"WaitToKillServiceTimeout"="1000"


If you'll change these two back:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\Memory Management]
"ClearPageFileAtShutdown"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop]
"AutoEndTasks"="0"

I'm sure your shutdown will be back to normal, the third one has a default
of 20000, but 1000 is working fine here.

My default settings for SP2 were:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\Memory Management]
"ClearPageFileAtShutdown"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop]
"AutoEndTasks"="0"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]
"WaitToKillServiceTimeout"="20000"
 
A

Alex Nichol

snowball said:
Interesting. I have tried several of these option and they don't work. I
seem to recall,however, loadind a tweak from Kelly's probably that read
something like clearing a pagefile. Would you know the undo for something
like that.

With regedit, open to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control
\Session Manager\Memory Management

and in the right pane d-click on ClearPageFileAtShutdown, set to zero
(or delete the item)

Clearing is only for those with serious concern that there might be
sensitive data in the file, capable of being extracted if someone were
to gain unauthorised access. It has no benefit for ordinary use.

You can also speed things up by adding a WaitToKillService String
value in the same key; a suggested setting for it is 1000. And you can
also add an AutoEndTasks string value and set to 1 - but that can be
awkward in that it pulls the rug from under applications so they may not
give a chance to save data. Be warned, and make sure you close
applications before shutdown
 

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