Should I go with Vista?

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Philo SP1 has been out since May. Wake up. You cannot run Vista without it.
When he buys a new PC, SP1 will be there for him.


Sorry, but that's not at all correct. Vista SP1 has not yet been
released.
 
If you have fairly limited demands, send email, surf the web, communicate
with friends, play music or watch a few movies you will never notice any
problem. Avoid 3-rd party software for a while unless they firmly stated, it
is Vista compatible.

<snip>

The purpose of an operating sytem is to run applications.
If you cannot run 3rd party applications...there is no sense in having an
operating system...
unless of course you purchased your machine to watch the screen saver.

When I have work to do...I want my application to run...and run well
and to NOT be bothered by anything within the OS itself.
If the application I choose to run does so flawlessly...I could care less
what OS it's running on.

Why in the world would someone purchase a new computer if they had "fairly
limited demands" ?
 
Hi,
We are about to purchase a new PC. We have read about the many problems
with Windows Vista. We are concerned about this and wonder if we should
purchase a new PC with XP which seems to be more stable and proven. Could
anyone help us with this decision? Thanks you.

dr. p.

Is there anything you 'need' from vista that xp does not offer? Unless
there is a compelling reason, I advise clients to stay away from vista
until at least sp1.
 
Alex, please, get your facts straight before posting
such nonsense.


-Michael
 
I don't even know where to start with this mess you left.
Philo has posted a good reply to you.

"People who buy XP now will regret it in 2 years."

Why? Please, give a coherent answer.

<quote>
If you have fairly limited demands, send email, surf the web, communicate
with friends, play music or watch a few movies you will never notice any
problem.
</quote>

Users of XP can email, surf the web, communicate with friends,
play music, and watch movies. Why do they *need* Vista?
If that's all you want to do, Linux can do that.

I have Vista because I *wanted* it, not because I needed it.


-Michael
 
I'm from the I-prefer-Vista camp, but let's remind ourselves of something:
We're not talking about electric can openers here.

PCs and their various operating systems have become very sophisticated.
We're not so much mere passive users of PCs as we are administrators of very
powerful computing systems. Although many who buy a computer for their home
will use it mostly for entertainment and communication, those same
computers -- and far less -- run the world's businesses -- and more -- and
are exponentially more powerful than the computer that got Mankind to the
Moon.

The stronger our commitment to learning how to manage an operating system,
the better our computing experience will be, no matter what OS we choose.
The alternative is to pay with time and money those who have that commitment
and knowledge to maintain a computing system for us, like most of us do for
our modern, complex automobiles.

Instead of trying to assess an operating system to determine if it's ready
for you, perhaps you should asses yourself and decide whether you're ready
for *it*.

So your question remains arguably impossible for us to answer, without
prejudice, but the fact that you have found your way to a community to seek
your answer is more important than the answers you will find here, and is a
strong indication that you are indeed ready for Vista.

Welcome Aboard and Happy Computing,

Brian
 
I don't even know where to start with this mess you left.
Philo has posted a good reply to you.

"People who buy XP now will regret it in 2 years."

Why? Please, give a coherent answer.
Quad 4 Processors and most future hardware.
 
You're kidding right? Why would you believe some blow hard dim witted
Vista zealot over the professional experts?
 
So I suppose the recent benchmarks that show XP SP3 outperforms Vista
SP1 are old news?

Or the fact that Vista SP1 still has fundamental errors in it is still
old news?
 
Well I would expect MS to end support for XP around 2020 given their
past record in dates slipping.
 
ray said:
Is there anything you 'need' from vista that xp does not offer?

Need? All any man needs is a spear, a cave and a good women.
You're referring to "wants"...big difference.

Unless
there is a compelling reason, I advise clients to stay away from vista
until at least sp1.

That's just a crock of linux troll bullsh*t!
Get real ray. You're old enough.
Frank
 
thetruthhurts said:
You're kidding right? Why would you believe some blow hard dim witted
Vista zealot over the professional experts?

Oh? So you're a "professional"...maybe a professional as*hole but other
than that you're just as incompetent as the next troll is.
Get a life you idiot.
Frank
 
So I suppose the recent benchmarks that show XP SP3 outperforms Vista
SP1 are old news?

Or the fact that Vista SP1 still has fundamental errors in it is still
old news?


I take it that you have no first hand experience with Vista..
 
Dr. Palpatine said:
Hi,
We are about to purchase a new PC. We have read about the many problems
with Windows Vista. We are concerned about this and wonder if we should
purchase a new PC with XP which seems to be more stable and proven. Could
anyone help us with this decision? Thanks you.

dr. p.


The fact that you are asking this question probably means you will not
get too deeply into technical issues - that's not an insult but an
observation, so I suspect Vista or XP or Linux would do what you need to
get done, as might a Mac.

XP runs on almost anything, even inadequate hardware, it just goes
slower. Vista does need better hardware and just because you see
something advertised as Vista Capable does not make it so. Either way
more memory is better, but with Vista it is more critical than XP.

For XP I would suggest at least 512 MB, for Vista I would suggest 2GB.
You can cut these figures in half and it will work, but you will start
noticing lag and other problems when running more than one application
or something RAM intensive. We all want to see people get the best for
their money and skimping on RAM as some manufacturers do is a bad idea,
very bad in some cases. If some store salesman tells you otherwise go
somewhere else :)

UAC does not contribute to security one Iota, it simply nags you in an
effort to stop you doing something stupid. Updates that fix
vulnerabilities in an operating system contribute to security, something
like UAC just stops the user doing silly things, which you probably
would not do anyway. (If you were stupid you wouldn't be here asking for
advice in the way you did). The reason I mention this is because Since
W98, in my opinion, Microsoft's Operating Systems have all been capable
of being made as secure and any other systems.

My biggest complaint applies to XP Vista and all of them, if I bought it
and paid for it (At least the right to use it) why do I constantly
have to try and prove this to Microsoft. I hope they do something about
that.

You will, if used to XP, have some learning to do. Things are in
different places (Why MS did this I don't know?) and some older software
simply will not work, but otherwise Vista is not a bad product, it is
just not the great leap forward it might have been.
 
I'm from the I-prefer-Vista camp, but let's remind ourselves of something:
We're not talking about electric can openers here.

PCs and their various operating systems have become very sophisticated.
We're not so much mere passive users of PCs as we are administrators of very
powerful computing systems. Although many who buy a computer for their home
will use it mostly for entertainment and communication, those same
computers -- and far less -- run the world's businesses -- and more -- and
are exponentially more powerful than the computer that got Mankind to the
Moon.

The stronger our commitment to learning how to manage an operating system,
the better our computing experience will be, no matter what OS we choose.
The alternative is to pay with time and money those who have that commitment
and knowledge to maintain a computing system for us, like most of us do for
our modern, complex automobiles.

Instead of trying to assess an operating system to determine if it's ready
for you, perhaps you should asses yourself and decide whether you're ready
for *it*.

So your question remains arguably impossible for us to answer, without
prejudice, but the fact that you have found your way to a community to seek
your answer is more important than the answers you will find here, and is a
strong indication that you are indeed ready for Vista.


Excellent post! I agree completely with what you say, *especially* the
sentence "The stronger our commitment to learning how to manage an
operating system, the better our computing experience will be, no
matter what OS we choose."
 
Alias said:
Frank said:
Need? All any man needs is a spear, a cave and a good women [sic].
Frank


That about sums Frank up, a true feral cave dweller.

Alias

As we all expected, that went right over your head...LOL!
Frank
 
Frank said:
Need? All any man needs is a spear, a cave and a good women.
You're referring to "wants"...big difference.

for once I agree with you.
you evidently already have the spear and the cave.

now if only you could find a woman stupid enough to have anything to do with
you, maybe you wouldn't be such a miserable SOB.
LMAO
 
Alias said:
Frank said:
Alias said:
Frank wrote:


Need? All any man needs is a spear, a cave and a good women [sic].
Frank



That about sums Frank up, a true feral cave dweller.

Alias


As we all expected, that went right over your head...LOL!
Frank


When I ducked the spear that you hurled at me?

Alias

hehehe..still don't get it do you?
You're really not that quick are you.
Frank
 

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