shimgvw.dll - Why Does It Get Unregisterd

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Guest

I created multiple CDs from a folder of .JPG files via the "Write Files to
CD" feature of XP. When the Windows Picture and Fax Viewer (WPFV) slideshow
is selected after inserting a CD it works on some computers and not on
others. On computers where WPFV doesn't work (and now on any CD not just the
newly created CDs), use of "regsvr32 shimgvw.dll" from Start/Run resolves the
situation. I realize that what this does is re-register the DLL. But, why
did the DLL get unregistered (or whatever)?

My concern is that the situation can/may/will occur again and create an
exposure for those to whom I send photo CDs (some of whom don't know a DLL
from a brick, let alone how to -re-register one).
 
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David Candy

It's taking back associations from programs that have been installed. It is not unregistered, it is that registration also sets file associations (for this specific file). Registration isn't about associations - it's an added bonus. The only reason a user would type regsvr32 on a file is if this does something more than registration.

In this case you are breaking the users installed software preference and forcing them to use Window's components.
 
G

Guest

David, thanks. You've explained well the associations aspect versus
"unregistration." However, I don't understand "breaking the user's installed
software preference." I'm not aware that such a preference was ever set by
me. WPFV worked on my computer before I attempted to use it on this CD.
Then it didn't work on any other CD. How did the "preference" get reset to
cause WPFV not to work?
 
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David Candy

Because the user went to the shop with money and bought a program. Then took it home and installed it. The program assumes the user wants to use what they just paid money for so sets itself to open graphic files. As most users are idiots and a lot of modern stuff comes with crappy image editors you will find they will have multiple image programs installed.

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TomB said:
David, thanks. You've explained well the associations aspect versus
"unregistration." However, I don't understand "breaking the user's installed
software preference." I'm not aware that such a preference was ever set by
me. WPFV worked on my computer before I attempted to use it on this CD.
Then it didn't work on any other CD. How did the "preference" get reset to
cause WPFV not to work?
 
G

Guest

David, thanks again. Perhaps I'm one of those "idiots" but I haven't been to
the store lately. My system has Quick Time (which was what usually opened
standalone .JPG files on my hard drive), Photoshop and Dell Picture Studio.
My wife's system (she actually created the troublesome CD) also has some
Kodak camera/photo software. In the context of our dialog, perhaps my
initial question should have been why WPFV didn't run against the .JPG files
on the CD.
 
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David Candy

You have to ask the user. They installed software.

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TomB said:
David, thanks again. Perhaps I'm one of those "idiots" but I haven't been to
the store lately. My system has Quick Time (which was what usually opened
standalone .JPG files on my hard drive), Photoshop and Dell Picture Studio.
My wife's system (she actually created the troublesome CD) also has some
Kodak camera/photo software. In the context of our dialog, perhaps my
initial question should have been why WPFV didn't run against the .JPG files
on the CD.
 
G

Guest

David, with all due respect, your latest response is worthless from the
standpoint of understanding the situation. Let try to rephrase the
fundamental question. What in WPFV causes it not to run in the described
environment, and what in shimgvw.dll eliminates the cause(s)?
 
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David Candy

It has nothing to do with P&FV. Some other application is the installed app. Reinstalls P&FV.

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TomB said:
David, with all due respect, your latest response is worthless from the
standpoint of understanding the situation. Let try to rephrase the
fundamental question. What in WPFV causes it not to run in the described
environment, and what in shimgvw.dll eliminates the cause(s)?
 
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David Candy

You are relying on the person have chosen this particular app. That is not an assumption you can make. If you want slideshows get a slideshow making program.

The user installed a program. Windows is not going to ignore the user preference.

The problem is gluttony. People want as much as they can get (eg the guy I've just been speaking to downstairs spends his life downloading millions of MP3s and mpgs - you can't listen to 10,000 songs) so they install every shit program in the world. Every digital camera, scanner, office suite, and millions of crap web site come with piss poor graphic programs.

The slide show feature is the users not yours (you are a programmer in this regard).
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TomB said:
David, with all due respect, your latest response is worthless from the
standpoint of understanding the situation. Let try to rephrase the
fundamental question. What in WPFV causes it not to run in the described
environment, and what in shimgvw.dll eliminates the cause(s)?
 
D

David Candy

And 99% of these crap programs, which are mostly free, are in fact faulty.

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TomB said:
David, with all due respect, your latest response is worthless from the
standpoint of understanding the situation. Let try to rephrase the
fundamental question. What in WPFV causes it not to run in the described
environment, and what in shimgvw.dll eliminates the cause(s)?
 
G

Guest

David, you say:
"It has nothing to do with P&FV. Some other application is the installed
app. Reinstalls P&FV."

Maybe it's the "idiot" in me, but I still don't understand. I insert the
CD; a menu appears that includes WPFV; I select WPFV; it doesn't run. Why?
How dos WPFV get "reinstalled?"
 
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David Candy

BECAUSE F>CKIN M<AGGOTS LIKE YOU SUFFER FROM GLUTONY.

That is the reason. Deadly sin.
 
G

Guest

I'll appreciate it if someone with better communication skills, less
cynicism, and a civil tongue will reply to the situation described in this
thread. "Foul Mouth Candy" seems more intent on pontificating his cynical
views on users and graphics programs than providing rational technical
answers.

With respect to his latest response that has a glint of technical content,
how can Microsoft allow another program to "uninstall" or disable one of its
Windows applications (WPFV)?
 
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Eduard Koller [MSFT]

If you allow Quick Time to register itself as the default JPG viewer, it
will most likely "unregister" the previous default viewer. Re-registering
shimgvw should fix your problems.

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TomB said:
David, thanks again. Perhaps I'm one of those "idiots" but I haven't been
to
the store lately. My system has Quick Time (which was what usually opened
standalone .JPG files on my hard drive), Photoshop and Dell Picture
Studio.
My wife's system (she actually created the troublesome CD) also has some
Kodak camera/photo software. In the context of our dialog, perhaps my
initial question should have been why WPFV didn't run against the .JPG
files
on the CD.
 

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