Shifting text between office 2k3 and 2k7

[Guest]

Just upgraded to (enterprise) office 2007 and i've noticed in powerpoint that
some of the text and formatting from the Powerpoint 2003 file has been
shifted around.

If i reopen the file on Powerpoint 2003 all is normal and fine - i'm
hesitant to upgrade everyone in the office to 2k7 just based on this one
issue - anyone else encounter this or have a solution...?

Thank you.

Randy

 

[Guest]

Thank you - i did post in the PPT discussion group as well - it's hard to
explain - but the best example is an organizational chart where the text is
no longer aligned within the proper boxes.

In addition, there are lines of text that now appear nearly on top of each
other...is there a place in here i can upload an image of the 2k3 vs the 2k7?

Thank you.

Randy

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Just upgraded to (enterprise) office 2007 and i've noticed in powerpoint that
some of the text and formatting from the Powerpoint 2003 file has been
shifted around.

If i reopen the file on Powerpoint 2003 all is normal and fine - i'm
hesitant to upgrade everyone in the office to 2k7 just based on this one
issue - anyone else encounter this or have a solution...?

Are you certain it's not a font substitution issue?

Are the fonts used in the 2003 file available on the computer with 2007?

Get a list of the fonts used by choosing Format, Replace Fonts in PPT 2003
Verify that they're available in 2007 by checking to see if they're on the fonts
list. If there's a Format Replace Fonts equivalent in 2007, somebody tell me
where it's hid. I've no idea and Help doesn't either.

 

[Guest]

It's on the Home tab over on the right, I think. In the same chunk with the
selection pane, isn't it? (Not at a 2007 system now, sorry.)

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

It's on the Home tab over on the right, I think. In the same chunk with the
selection pane, isn't it? (Not at a 2007 system now, sorry.)

They should ship a free subscription to you with this thing and scrap the help
system altogether.

That's a bingo ... thanks!

 

[Guest]

No luck - it's not a font issue - only using Arial and Arial Black so both
version have those fonts...

ANy other ideas or suggestions...?

Thank you.

Randy

 

[Echo S]

Can you email me a couple of sample slides? I'd like to take a look here.

I have a feeling we're going to start seeing these "text shifting" issues,
and I'd like to figure out what we can!

 

[Guest]

THis is something that happens in 2007 with Times New Roman, Arial, and
Garamond (at least). My publisers are also having problems with many
postscript fonts.

This is NOT a font or font substitution issue. This is a crappy program
design issue. Not relief until Microsoft fixes it. We're at their mercy until
then.

 

[Echo S]

Again, I'd really love to see a couple of sample slides. I know I've got one
example here that I can't repro, but it may be a completely different
scenario....

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the offer Echo. If you can give me an email or FTP address, I'm
happy to send both a set of problematic slides and screen shots to
demonstrate what's happening (in case it does misbehave on your end).

Or, if there's a way I can attach them to one of these replies, I'm happy to
do it that way as well.

Again, I'd really love to see a couple of sample slides. I know I've got one
example here that I can't repro, but it may be a completely different
scenario....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

THis is something that happens in 2007 with Times New Roman, Arial, and
Garamond (at least). My publisers are also having problems with many
postscript fonts.

This is NOT a font or font substitution issue. This is a crappy program
design issue. Not relief until Microsoft fixes it. We're at their mercy
until
then.

 

[Echo S]

email would be great, and a file with screenshots would be most helpful.
Also please include which version of Windows you're working on.

Send to echos at indy dot net, please. (Of course, replace "at" with @ and
"dot" with a period.) And thanks!

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Thanks for the offer Echo. If you can give me an email or FTP address, I'm
happy to send both a set of problematic slides and screen shots to
demonstrate what's happening (in case it does misbehave on your end).

Or, if there's a way I can attach them to one of these replies, I'm happy
to
do it that way as well.

Again, I'd really love to see a couple of sample slides. I know I've got
one
example here that I can't repro, but it may be a completely different
scenario....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

THis is something that happens in 2007 with Times New Roman, Arial, and
Garamond (at least). My publisers are also having problems with many
postscript fonts.

This is NOT a font or font substitution issue. This is a crappy program
design issue. Not relief until Microsoft fixes it. We're at their mercy
until
then.

 

[Guest]

Eric, here's what I found so far. We have 7 different printer types on our
office network. I tried printing to each of them separately using the most
current drivers for each, plus PDF Writer. Got the same results everytime. I
also downloaded one of the drivers you suggested and that also did not help.

We have nearly 100 people in our office, and more than half of them have
this same problem. Most of them are client facing with a need to use PPT with
clients frequently. This situation is untenable for us. Without a solution
soon, we're going to have to get rid of 2007 altogether.

Everyone who's running Office 2007 (which is nearly 100 percent) was
installed by our IT department from the same image. The few that aren't
already "upgraded" refuse to do so until this mess is fixed. Can't say I
blame them. All users are running XP SP2 and are fully updated. There seems
to be no conceivable reason why the most basic and most used fonts on the
planet - provided to us by Microsoft - should cause such havoc.

A solution will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

email would be great, and a file with screenshots would be most helpful.
Also please include which version of Windows you're working on.

Send to echos at indy dot net, please. (Of course, replace "at" with @ and
"dot" with a period.) And thanks!

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Thanks for the offer Echo. If you can give me an email or FTP address, I'm
happy to send both a set of problematic slides and screen shots to
demonstrate what's happening (in case it does misbehave on your end).

Or, if there's a way I can attach them to one of these replies, I'm happy
to
do it that way as well.

Again, I'd really love to see a couple of sample slides. I know I've got
one
example here that I can't repro, but it may be a completely different
scenario....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

THis is something that happens in 2007 with Times New Roman, Arial, and
Garamond (at least). My publisers are also having problems with many
postscript fonts.

This is NOT a font or font substitution issue. This is a crappy program
design issue. Not relief until Microsoft fixes it. We're at their mercy
until
then.

 

[Echo S]

It's not a matter of printing, it's a matter of the display being dependent
on the printer drivers. My suggestion is to install one of the certified
drivers and set it as the default printer driver. I'm not suggesting that
you install current drivers for the 7 printer types in use. I'm suggesting
that, as a test, you install one of these certified drivers and set it as
the default.

Certified drivers here:
http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/category.aspx?bcatid=1044&tabid=1

If that doesn't work, then I suggest a call to MS is in order.

By the way, my name is Echo, not Eric.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Eric, here's what I found so far. We have 7 different printer types on our
office network. I tried printing to each of them separately using the most
current drivers for each, plus PDF Writer. Got the same results everytime.
I
also downloaded one of the drivers you suggested and that also did not
help.

We have nearly 100 people in our office, and more than half of them have
this same problem. Most of them are client facing with a need to use PPT
with
clients frequently. This situation is untenable for us. Without a solution
soon, we're going to have to get rid of 2007 altogether.

Everyone who's running Office 2007 (which is nearly 100 percent) was
installed by our IT department from the same image. The few that aren't
already "upgraded" refuse to do so until this mess is fixed. Can't say I
blame them. All users are running XP SP2 and are fully updated. There
seems
to be no conceivable reason why the most basic and most used fonts on the
planet - provided to us by Microsoft - should cause such havoc.

A solution will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

email would be great, and a file with screenshots would be most helpful.
Also please include which version of Windows you're working on.

Send to echos at indy dot net, please. (Of course, replace "at" with @
and
"dot" with a period.) And thanks!

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Thanks for the offer Echo. If you can give me an email or FTP address,
I'm
happy to send both a set of problematic slides and screen shots to
demonstrate what's happening (in case it does misbehave on your end).

Or, if there's a way I can attach them to one of these replies, I'm
happy
to
do it that way as well.

:

Again, I'd really love to see a couple of sample slides. I know I've
got
one
example here that I can't repro, but it may be a completely different
scenario....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

THis is something that happens in 2007 with Times New Roman, Arial,
and
Garamond (at least). My publisers are also having problems with many
postscript fonts.

This is NOT a font or font substitution issue. This is a crappy
program
design issue. Not relief until Microsoft fixes it. We're at their
mercy
until
then.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Eric, here's what I found so far. We have 7 different printer types on our
office network. I tried printing to each of them separately using the most
current drivers for each, plus PDF Writer.

PDFWriter died after version 4 of Adobe Acrobat; they haven't shipped that in a
long, long time and it's surely not an MS-certified driver.

The number of printer types doesn't mean a lot either unless you know that
they're Windows certified. Incidentally, if they're network-installed (as
opposed to locally installed) drivers, that's long been a PPT sore point.

As a test, try using the Add Printer wizard to add a *local* printer and choose
the HP Laserjet III from the list that the Add Printer wizard provides.

Got the same results everytime. I
also downloaded one of the drivers you suggested and that also did not help.

We have nearly 100 people in our office, and more than half of them have
this same problem. Most of them are client facing with a need to use PPT with
clients frequently. This situation is untenable for us. Without a solution
soon, we're going to have to get rid of 2007 altogether.

Everyone who's running Office 2007 (which is nearly 100 percent) was
installed by our IT department from the same image. The few that aren't
already "upgraded" refuse to do so until this mess is fixed. Can't say I
blame them. All users are running XP SP2 and are fully updated. There seems
to be no conceivable reason why the most basic and most used fonts on the
planet - provided to us by Microsoft - should cause such havoc.

A solution will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

email would be great, and a file with screenshots would be most helpful.
Also please include which version of Windows you're working on.

Send to echos at indy dot net, please. (Of course, replace "at" with @ and
"dot" with a period.) And thanks!

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

Thanks for the offer Echo. If you can give me an email or FTP address, I'm
happy to send both a set of problematic slides and screen shots to
demonstrate what's happening (in case it does misbehave on your end).

Or, if there's a way I can attach them to one of these replies, I'm happy
to
do it that way as well.

:

Again, I'd really love to see a couple of sample slides. I know I've got
one
example here that I can't repro, but it may be a completely different
scenario....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

THis is something that happens in 2007 with Times New Roman, Arial, and
Garamond (at least). My publisers are also having problems with many
postscript fonts.

This is NOT a font or font substitution issue. This is a crappy program
design issue. Not relief until Microsoft fixes it. We're at their mercy
until
then.