SFC -- Beginner Questions!

G

Guest

message is that "repository is consistent"

dean-dean said:
Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn!
I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to real-time
protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User
Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows exactly
how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in combination;
since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as they
like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible (what
with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your computer,
ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be a ruse
for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but I'd
tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others), and
have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active, if your
Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their on-demand
scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of Spyware
Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using Avast's
Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at least
those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender. Once
you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall
status can be fixed :

Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the following
command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands to
the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for the
services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have to
run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own.

Reboot your system.

In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this. The
point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable, stable,
and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your
purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm...


nweissma said:
od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation
oa = on access - iow, real-time protection

i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast
before
i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d,
adaware,
and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no extraneous
toolbars - never did.

conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for
example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect windows
defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator
intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth
documentation
is a major problem, imo.

sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing:



........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair


dean-dean said:
You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares". What
do
the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender real-time
protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus program
correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly?

Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and
running,
and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection,
running.
Too many processes in this area running in the background are going to
cause
conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your
computer.
Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting its
status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your
"Anti-'s".
One Care is off the table; what's on the table?

Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or too many
3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For starters,
if
you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came from
your
computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them.

To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to understand
what
the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by
right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator. Next,
open
Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start
Menu\Programs\Accessories)
(Run as Administrator), and type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop. Looking
at
entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted in that
text file?


it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone and with
easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further probing,
that
the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified corrupted, and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he told me
that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look forward
to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran
/verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this "true
font"
.ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was
necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i forget
the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od av's, and
od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows firewall
operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 hours;
after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows firewall *was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the
security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he said
that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows
firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible that
i
have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised on
the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with the
Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit
www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page never
loads)
.




:

I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to
repair
corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted files
weren't
corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is
able
to
replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to file
corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your
problems
most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the installation
of a
3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and
possibly
have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file
corruption
can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating
mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of
possibilities.

Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are
basically
intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding Windows
Firewall? And your IE7 problems?

i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you
determine
the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return system
files
and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore the
operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the issue.
When
you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state, ***
programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so
obvious:
why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully
configured?
all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the baby
out
with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> cbs.txt
(all
35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that the
reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7
problems,
is
due to a corruption of a file named mingliu.ttc - a windows "true
font"
file!! cbs.txt identifies this as *the only* sfc.exe /scannow
irrepartable
file!!

can this possibly be causing my windows firewall problem? and for
*this*,
i
am going to jeopardize my antimalware?

so, what can vista's restore feature be used for, with a net
benefit?


:

System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files, but
you
would
have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted files
weren't
corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be
easy
to
figure out.

why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair
corrupted
files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns.
Your
post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a
sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and
find
the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the
prompt
starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type
 
D

dean-dean

That's actually not good news. Darn.

If Security Center is showing that Windows Firewall is Off, are you able to
open Control Panel > Windows Firewall, and, after clicking on "Change
settings", when the Windows Firewall Settings dialog shows up, on its
General tab, turn it On? On the Advanced tab, do your Network Connections
have a checkmark? Also on the Advanced tab, can you Restore Defaults?


nweissma said:
message is that "repository is consistent"

dean-dean said:
Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn!
I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to real-time
protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User
Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows
exactly
how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in combination;
since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as they
like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible
(what
with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your computer,
ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be a
ruse
for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but I'd
tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others), and
have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active, if
your
Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their
on-demand
scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of Spyware
Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using
Avast's
Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at
least
those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender.
Once
you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall
status can be fixed :

Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the following
command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this
command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands
to
the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for the
services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have to
run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own.

Reboot your system.

In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this.
The
point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable,
stable,
and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your
purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm...


nweissma said:
od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation
oa = on access - iow, real-time protection

i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast
before
i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d,
adaware,
and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no extraneous
toolbars - never did.

conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for
example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect
windows
defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator
intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth
documentation
is a major problem, imo.

sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing:



........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair


:

You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares".
What
do
the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender real-time
protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus
program
correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly?

Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and
running,
and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection,
running.
Too many processes in this area running in the background are going to
cause
conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your
computer.
Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting
its
status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your
"Anti-'s".
One Care is off the table; what's on the table?

Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or too
many
3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For
starters,
if
you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came from
your
computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them.

To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to understand
what
the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by
right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator.
Next,
open
Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start
Menu\Programs\Accessories)
(Run as Administrator), and type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.
Looking
at
entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted in
that
text file?


it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone and
with
easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further probing,
that
the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified corrupted,
and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he told
me
that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look forward
to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran
/verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this
"true
font"
.ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was
necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i forget
the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od av's,
and
od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows firewall
operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 hours;
after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows firewall
*was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the
security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd
party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he
said
that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows
firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible
that
i
have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd
party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised on
the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with the
Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit
www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page never
loads)
.




:

I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to
repair
corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted
files
weren't
corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is
able
to
replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to
file
corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your
problems
most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the
installation
of a
3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and
possibly
have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file
corruption
can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating
mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of
possibilities.

Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are
basically
intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding
Windows
Firewall? And your IE7 problems?

i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you
determine
the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return
system
files
and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore
the
operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the
issue.
When
you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state,
***
programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so
obvious:
why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully
configured?
all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the
baby
out
with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >>
cbs.txt
(all
35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that
the
reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7
problems,
is
due to a corruption of a file named mingliu.ttc - a windows "true
font"
file!! cbs.txt identifies this as *the only* sfc.exe /scannow
irrepartable
file!!

can this possibly be causing my windows firewall problem? and for
*this*,
i
am going to jeopardize my antimalware?

so, what can vista's restore feature be used for, with a net
benefit?


:

System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files,
but
you
would
have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted
files
weren't
corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be
easy
to
figure out.

why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair
corrupted
files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
message
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your
concerns.
Your
post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a
sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and
find
the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the
prompt
starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type
 
G

Guest

i don't see the tabs -general and advanced - that you are talking about (i am
using vista), but i can tell you that i cannot turn on windows, and "network
connections" may be available to me when i log on as administrator (i
recollect seeing it, in control panel, i think) - it is inconvenient for me
to do that right now. if you send me your email, i wills end you the
appropriate screenshot. my email is: (e-mail address removed)

i have been surfing without a firewall for three weeks because i want to
avoid a firewall conflict: if i install a 3rd party firewall, and then learn
that windows firewall IS working despite that it reports that it is not.

dean-dean said:
That's actually not good news. Darn.

If Security Center is showing that Windows Firewall is Off, are you able to
open Control Panel > Windows Firewall, and, after clicking on "Change
settings", when the Windows Firewall Settings dialog shows up, on its
General tab, turn it On? On the Advanced tab, do your Network Connections
have a checkmark? Also on the Advanced tab, can you Restore Defaults?


nweissma said:
message is that "repository is consistent"

dean-dean said:
Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn!
I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to real-time
protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User
Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows
exactly
how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in combination;
since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as they
like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible
(what
with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your computer,
ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be a
ruse
for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but I'd
tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others), and
have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active, if
your
Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their
on-demand
scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of Spyware
Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using
Avast's
Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at
least
those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender.
Once
you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall
status can be fixed :

Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the following
command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this
command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands
to
the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for the
services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have to
run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own.

Reboot your system.

In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this.
The
point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable,
stable,
and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your
purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm...


od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation
oa = on access - iow, real-time protection

i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast
before
i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d,
adaware,
and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no extraneous
toolbars - never did.

conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for
example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect
windows
defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator
intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth
documentation
is a major problem, imo.

sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing:



........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair


:

You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares".
What
do
the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender real-time
protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus
program
correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly?

Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and
running,
and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection,
running.
Too many processes in this area running in the background are going to
cause
conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your
computer.
Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting
its
status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your
"Anti-'s".
One Care is off the table; what's on the table?

Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or too
many
3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For
starters,
if
you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came from
your
computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them.

To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to understand
what
the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by
right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator.
Next,
open
Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start
Menu\Programs\Accessories)
(Run as Administrator), and type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.
Looking
at
entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted in
that
text file?


it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone and
with
easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further probing,
that
the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified corrupted,
and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he told
me
that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look forward
to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran
/verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this
"true
font"
.ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was
necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i forget
the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od av's,
and
od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows firewall
operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 hours;
after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows firewall
*was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the
security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd
party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he
said
that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows
firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible
that
i
have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd
party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised on
the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with the
Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit
www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page never
loads)
.




:

I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to
repair
corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted
files
weren't
corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is
able
to
replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to
file
corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your
problems
most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the
installation
of a
3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and
possibly
have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file
corruption
can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating
mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of
possibilities.

Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are
basically
intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding
Windows
Firewall? And your IE7 problems?

i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you
determine
the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return
system
files
and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore
the
operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the
issue.
When
you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state,
***
programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so
obvious:
why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully
configured?
all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the
baby
out
with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >>
cbs.txt
(all
35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that
the
reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7
 
D

dean-dean

The Windows Fire Wall Settings window has three tabs, named General,
Exceptions, and Advanced. It is actually this file:

C:\Windows\System32\FirewallSettings.exe

Do you have that file on your computer? Opening that file (right-click and
Run as Administrator) is the same as clicking on "Change settings" in
Control Panel > Windows Firewall (not to be confused with Control Panel >
Security Center). The "Network Connections" I was referring to is a setting
on the Advanced tab, which you select to have firewalled (e.g., your LAN
connection or your Wireless Network connection). By default, they are
firewalled.

I understand that you're probably none too happy with me regarding my take
on too many Anti-Malware programs installed on Vista, but you might want to
take a look at a recent post by Richard Urban concerning Spybot S & D, under
the subject "KB931768 problem - ***solved***" found in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:

http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...4e52&mid=33dde60d-71c7-4372-b669-7a32f6284e52

This blog, too, is very interesting (take note of the line in the article
"...the IE rendering engine will check the registry for entries in IE's
Restricted Sites zone **every time you type a character***." Not that that
applies to your situation, per se, but it's one symptom of the over-all
issue of IE7 performance problems, and by extension, Vista problems):

http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2007/05/13/901386.aspx

nweissma said:
i don't see the tabs -general and advanced - that you are talking about (i
am
using vista), but i can tell you that i cannot turn on windows, and
"network
connections" may be available to me when i log on as administrator (i
recollect seeing it, in control panel, i think) - it is inconvenient for
me
to do that right now. if you send me your email, i wills end you the
appropriate screenshot. my email is: (e-mail address removed)

i have been surfing without a firewall for three weeks because i want to
avoid a firewall conflict: if i install a 3rd party firewall, and then
learn
that windows firewall IS working despite that it reports that it is not.

dean-dean said:
That's actually not good news. Darn.

If Security Center is showing that Windows Firewall is Off, are you able
to
open Control Panel > Windows Firewall, and, after clicking on "Change
settings", when the Windows Firewall Settings dialog shows up, on its
General tab, turn it On? On the Advanced tab, do your Network
Connections
have a checkmark? Also on the Advanced tab, can you Restore Defaults?


nweissma said:
message is that "repository is consistent"

:

Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn!
I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to
real-time
protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User
Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows
exactly
how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in
combination;
since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as
they
like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible
(what
with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your
computer,
ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be
a
ruse
for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but
I'd
tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others),
and
have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active,
if
your
Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their
on-demand
scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of
Spyware
Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using
Avast's
Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at
least
those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender.
Once
you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall
status can be fixed :

Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the
following
command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this
command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop
commands
to
the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for
the
services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have
to
run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own.

Reboot your system.

In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this.
The
point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable,
stable,
and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your
purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm...


od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation
oa = on access - iow, real-time protection

i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast
before
i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d,
adaware,
and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no
extraneous
toolbars - never did.

conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for
example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect
windows
defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator
intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth
documentation
is a major problem, imo.

sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing:



........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair


:

You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares".
What
do
the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender
real-time
protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus
program
correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly?

Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and
running,
and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection,
running.
Too many processes in this area running in the background are going
to
cause
conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your
computer.
Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting
its
status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your
"Anti-'s".
One Care is off the table; what's on the table?

Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or
too
many
3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For
starters,
if
you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came
from
your
computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them.

To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to
understand
what
the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by
right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator.
Next,
open
Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start
Menu\Programs\Accessories)
(Run as Administrator), and type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.
Looking
at
entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted
in
that
text file?


it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone
and
with
easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further
probing,
that
the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified
corrupted,
and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he
told
me
that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look
forward
to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran
/verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this
"true
font"
.ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was
necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i
forget
the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not
adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od
av's,
and
od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows
firewall
operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3
hours;
after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows
firewall
*was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the
security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd
party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he
said
that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows
firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible
that
i
have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd
party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised
on
the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with
the
Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit
www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page
never
loads)
.




:

I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way
to
repair
corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted
files
weren't
corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC
is
able
to
replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due
to
file
corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your
problems
most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the
installation
of a
3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and
possibly
have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file
corruption
can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by
equating
mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut
of
possibilities.

Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are
basically
intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding
Windows
Firewall? And your IE7 problems?

i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you
determine
the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return
system
files
and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to
restore
the
operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the
issue.
When
you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous
state,
***
programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is
so
obvious:
why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully
configured?
all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw
the
baby
out
with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >>
cbs.txt
(all
35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that
the
reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other
ie7
 
G

Guest

Dean,


i needed a hiatus from all this! so i shut off the computer, unplugged the
bridge, for 7 days!!

i do *not* have too many antimalwares: i have only one oa av (avast) and no
3rd party oa antispyware, no oa antiadware - i think! the only oa
antispyware/adware is windows defender and, if it is indeed operative
(despite reporting itself as "not operative"), windows firewall. all the rest
are, as far as i know, od's (scanners). but there is a nagging doubt about
some of them: for example, does spybot intersect with windows defender??

again: AS FAR AS I KNOW. BUT I MAY BE WRONG!! HOW DO I KNOW?? HOW WILL A
CONFLICT MANIFEST ITSELF?

i ran as administrator C:\Windows\System32\FirewallSettings.exe. the result
was, as always: "due to an unidentified problem, windows cannot display
windows firewall settings." {therefore, of course, i cannot see the three
tabs that you describe}

i have not yet read the kb article by R. Urban; thank you for the lead. i
will pursue it immediately! but i want npow to bring to your attention {boy,
this forum nNEEDS a spell-check - these typos are killinm' me!!!} that spybot
op[erates in 2 modes, basic and adfvanced. sopybot does warn that switching
to advanced may "harm your system."

Dean, i appreciate your involvement in my case. but i need to tell youy that
i am not at a point of competency where i can uyndewrstansd everythinfg that
you are sayinfg ("IE's restricted sites zone" = ????)

what do you tghink i shouyld do: should i proceed on thge assumption that
windows firewall rep[orting itself as noperayive (nonoperative) is true, and
therebty install a 3rd party firewall; or should i assume, as per ms
technician's reading of a log frpom a scan that he prescribed, that the
windows firewall *is* operative, despitye tjat it reports that it is not, and
thereupon *not* install a third party firewall (and i will thereby be
unprotected by a firewall)?


thnaks. {damn typos}


dean-dean said:
The Windows Fire Wall Settings window has three tabs, named General,
Exceptions, and Advanced. It is actually this file:

C:\Windows\System32\FirewallSettings.exe

Do you have that file on your computer? Opening that file (right-click and
Run as Administrator) is the same as clicking on "Change settings" in
Control Panel > Windows Firewall (not to be confused with Control Panel >
Security Center). The "Network Connections" I was referring to is a setting
on the Advanced tab, which you select to have firewalled (e.g., your LAN
connection or your Wireless Network connection). By default, they are
firewalled.

I understand that you're probably none too happy with me regarding my take
on too many Anti-Malware programs installed on Vista, but you might want to
take a look at a recent post by Richard Urban concerning Spybot S & D, under
the subject "KB931768 problem - ***solved***" found in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:

http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...4e52&mid=33dde60d-71c7-4372-b669-7a32f6284e52

This blog, too, is very interesting (take note of the line in the article
"...the IE rendering engine will check the registry for entries in IE's
Restricted Sites zone **every time you type a character***." Not that that
applies to your situation, per se, but it's one symptom of the over-all
issue of IE7 performance problems, and by extension, Vista problems):

http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2007/05/13/901386.aspx

nweissma said:
i don't see the tabs -general and advanced - that you are talking about (i
am
using vista), but i can tell you that i cannot turn on windows, and
"network
connections" may be available to me when i log on as administrator (i
recollect seeing it, in control panel, i think) - it is inconvenient for
me
to do that right now. if you send me your email, i wills end you the
appropriate screenshot. my email is: (e-mail address removed)

i have been surfing without a firewall for three weeks because i want to
avoid a firewall conflict: if i install a 3rd party firewall, and then
learn
that windows firewall IS working despite that it reports that it is not.

dean-dean said:
That's actually not good news. Darn.

If Security Center is showing that Windows Firewall is Off, are you able
to
open Control Panel > Windows Firewall, and, after clicking on "Change
settings", when the Windows Firewall Settings dialog shows up, on its
General tab, turn it On? On the Advanced tab, do your Network
Connections
have a checkmark? Also on the Advanced tab, can you Restore Defaults?


message is that "repository is consistent"

:

Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn!
I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to
real-time
protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User
Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows
exactly
how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in
combination;
since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as
they
like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible
(what
with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your
computer,
ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be
a
ruse
for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but
I'd
tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others),
and
have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active,
if
your
Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their
on-demand
scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of
Spyware
Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using
Avast's
Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at
least
those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender.
Once
you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall
status can be fixed :

Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the
following
command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this
command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop
commands
to
the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for
the
services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have
to
run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own.

Reboot your system.

In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this.
The
point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable,
stable,
and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your
purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm...


od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation
oa = on access - iow, real-time protection

i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast
before
i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d,
adaware,
and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no
extraneous
toolbars - never did.

conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for
example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect
windows
defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator
intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth
documentation
is a major problem, imo.

sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing:



........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair


:

You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares".
What
do
the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender
real-time
protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus
program
correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly?

Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and
running,
and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection,
running.
Too many processes in this area running in the background are going
to
cause
conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your
computer.
Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting
its
status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your
"Anti-'s".
One Care is off the table; what's on the table?

Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or
too
many
3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For
starters,
if
you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came
from
your
computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them.

To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to
understand
what
the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by
right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator.
Next,
open
Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start
Menu\Programs\Accessories)
(Run as Administrator), and type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.
Looking
at
entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted
in
that
text file?


it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone
and
with
easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further
probing,
that
the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified
corrupted,
and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he
told
me
that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look
forward
to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran
/verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this
"true
font"
.ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was
necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i
forget
the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not
adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od
av's,
and
od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows
firewall
operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3
hours;
after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows
firewall
*was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the
security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd
party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he
said
that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows
firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible
that
i
have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd
party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised
on
the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with
the
Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit
www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page
never
 
G

Guest

Hello Dean,

just read the articles. i can keep it in mind but i see nothing that
immediately has relevance to windows firewall or ie7 trouble with
ajax-technology. that there is trouble afoot with ie7, that ie7 has "bugs,"
is undeniable - but, given the complexity of microsoft os's, i doubt that it
will *ever* run completely trouble-free - it has to be too many things to too
many people of too varied a background. i've reconciled myself to live with
it - until i've graduated from newbie status.

dean-dean said:
The Windows Fire Wall Settings window has three tabs, named General,
Exceptions, and Advanced. It is actually this file:

C:\Windows\System32\FirewallSettings.exe

Do you have that file on your computer? Opening that file (right-click and
Run as Administrator) is the same as clicking on "Change settings" in
Control Panel > Windows Firewall (not to be confused with Control Panel >
Security Center). The "Network Connections" I was referring to is a setting
on the Advanced tab, which you select to have firewalled (e.g., your LAN
connection or your Wireless Network connection). By default, they are
firewalled.

I understand that you're probably none too happy with me regarding my take
on too many Anti-Malware programs installed on Vista, but you might want to
take a look at a recent post by Richard Urban concerning Spybot S & D, under
the subject "KB931768 problem - ***solved***" found in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance:

http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...4e52&mid=33dde60d-71c7-4372-b669-7a32f6284e52

This blog, too, is very interesting (take note of the line in the article
"...the IE rendering engine will check the registry for entries in IE's
Restricted Sites zone **every time you type a character***." Not that that
applies to your situation, per se, but it's one symptom of the over-all
issue of IE7 performance problems, and by extension, Vista problems):

http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2007/05/13/901386.aspx

nweissma said:
i don't see the tabs -general and advanced - that you are talking about (i
am
using vista), but i can tell you that i cannot turn on windows, and
"network
connections" may be available to me when i log on as administrator (i
recollect seeing it, in control panel, i think) - it is inconvenient for
me
to do that right now. if you send me your email, i wills end you the
appropriate screenshot. my email is: (e-mail address removed)

i have been surfing without a firewall for three weeks because i want to
avoid a firewall conflict: if i install a 3rd party firewall, and then
learn
that windows firewall IS working despite that it reports that it is not.

dean-dean said:
That's actually not good news. Darn.

If Security Center is showing that Windows Firewall is Off, are you able
to
open Control Panel > Windows Firewall, and, after clicking on "Change
settings", when the Windows Firewall Settings dialog shows up, on its
General tab, turn it On? On the Advanced tab, do your Network
Connections
have a checkmark? Also on the Advanced tab, can you Restore Defaults?


message is that "repository is consistent"

:

Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn!
I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to
real-time
protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User
Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows
exactly
how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in
combination;
since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as
they
like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible
(what
with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your
computer,
ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be
a
ruse
for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but
I'd
tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others),
and
have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active,
if
your
Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their
on-demand
scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of
Spyware
Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using
Avast's
Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at
least
those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender.
Once
you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall
status can be fixed :

Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the
following
command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this
command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop
commands
to
the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for
the
services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have
to
run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own.

Reboot your system.

In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this.
The
point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable,
stable,
and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your
purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm...


od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation
oa = on access - iow, real-time protection

i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast
before
i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d,
adaware,
and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no
extraneous
toolbars - never did.

conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for
example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect
windows
defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator
intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth
documentation
is a major problem, imo.

sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing:



........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair


:

You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares".
What
do
the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender
real-time
protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus
program
correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly?

Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and
running,
and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection,
running.
Too many processes in this area running in the background are going
to
cause
conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your
computer.
Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting
its
status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your
"Anti-'s".
One Care is off the table; what's on the table?

Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or
too
many
3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For
starters,
if
you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came
from
your
computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them.

To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to
understand
what
the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by
right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator.
Next,
open
Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start
Menu\Programs\Accessories)
(Run as Administrator), and type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.
Looking
at
entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted
in
that
text file?


it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone
and
with
easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further
probing,
that
the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified
corrupted,
and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he
told
me
that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look
forward
to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran
/verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this
"true
font"
.ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was
necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i
forget
the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not
adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od
av's,
and
od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows
firewall
operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3
hours;
after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows
firewall
*was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the
security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd
party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he
said
that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows
firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible
that
i
have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd
party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised
on
the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with
the
Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit
www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page
never
 

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