SFC -- Beginner Questions!

L

LoneStar

My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran SFC /verifyonly
and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of stuff there that "looks"
really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that some system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw that the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process. Isn't there
supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned about the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
D

dean-dean

SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a new log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end of the log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a log for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which installs optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR] tags, in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned about your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's reason for not
repairing them...
 
L

LoneStar

dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your answer and working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I isolated the two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The "tcpmon.ini" works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though much of the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do with the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I guess. Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the cbs.log file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

dean-dean said:
SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a new log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end of the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a log for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR] tags, in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned about your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's reason for not
repairing them...

LoneStar said:
My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw that the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process. Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned about the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
G

Guest

It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns. Your post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and find the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the prompt starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.

I've run SFC with no problems found, or, as SFC puts it, "Windows Resource
Protection did not find any integrity violations". Here are my locations for
tcpmon.ini and settings.ini:

C:\Windows\System32\tcpmon.ini (Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created
November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-p..rtmonitor-tcpmonini_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d04210aeaa5e863a\tcpmon.ini
(Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created November ‎02, ‎2006)

C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\settings.ini (Modified and Created
‎November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-sidebar_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_cca5e9c129bd0a02\settings.ini
(Modified and Created ‎November ‎02, ‎2006)

The C:\Windows\winsxs\ subfolders are where SFC crosschecks the system files
on your computer. For tcpmon.ini and settings.ini, under
C:\Windows\winsxs\, do you have the corresponding subfolders, noted above?

Like you, I don't see the two "irreparable" files as cause for real concern...

LoneStar said:
dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your answer and working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I isolated the two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The "tcpmon.ini" works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though much of the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do with the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I guess. Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the cbs.log file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

dean-dean said:
SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a new log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end of the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a log for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR] tags, in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned about your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's reason for not
repairing them...

LoneStar said:
My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw that the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process. Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned about the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
L

LoneStar

Wow, thanks again. I've learned a bunch and am glad I ran into you here!!

EW

Dean-Dean said:
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns. Your post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:
ETC....................................................
 
N

nweissma

i have the identical situation (/scannow states, but does not identify,
irreparable corrupted files). i am looking at [sfc /verifyonly] a 35 MB
cbs.txt log - how do i identify which files are corrupted? after i've
identified them, how can i repair (from the disk) only them?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
dean-dean said:
SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a new log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end of the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a log for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR] tags, in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned about your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's reason for not
repairing them...

LoneStar said:
My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw that the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process. Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned about the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
N

nweissma

why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair corrupted files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
Dean-Dean said:
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns. Your post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and find the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the prompt starts
in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.

I've run SFC with no problems found, or, as SFC puts it, "Windows Resource
Protection did not find any integrity violations". Here are my locations
for
tcpmon.ini and settings.ini:

C:\Windows\System32\tcpmon.ini (Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created
November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-p..rtmonitor-tcpmonini_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d04210aeaa5e863a\tcpmon.ini
(Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created November ‎02, ‎2006)

C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\settings.ini (Modified and Created
‎November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-sidebar_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_cca5e9c129bd0a02\settings.ini
(Modified and Created ‎November ‎02, ‎2006)

The C:\Windows\winsxs\ subfolders are where SFC crosschecks the system
files
on your computer. For tcpmon.ini and settings.ini, under
C:\Windows\winsxs\, do you have the corresponding subfolders, noted above?

Like you, I don't see the two "irreparable" files as cause for real
concern...

LoneStar said:
dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your answer and
working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I isolated the
two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The "tcpmon.ini"
works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though much of
the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do with the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I guess. Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the cbs.log file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

dean-dean said:
SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a new
log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end of the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a log
for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR] tags,
in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned about
your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's reason for
not
repairing them...

My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw that
the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process. Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned about the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
J

Julian

nweissma said:
why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair corrupted
files?

It can if they are 'system' files.

For user files restore from backup.
 
L

LoneStar

nweissma said:
i have the identical situation (/scannow states, but does not identify,
irreparable corrupted files). i am looking at [sfc /verifyonly] a 35 MB
cbs.txt log - how do i identify which files are corrupted? after i've
identified them, how can i repair (from the disk) only them?

Here's what I did to find the irreparable files:

Open your CBS.log file in Notepad (hopefully, your Notepad can handle 25
MB!). Go to the Edit tab and use your "Find" selection to search the words
"Cannot repair member file." This will give you a mildly complex
explanation and name of the file found to be in "error." Use "Find Next"
until you've seen them all. In my case, it found 2 files, but they were not
really bad files, just a fluke because the items they referred to were files
used on hardware that I had shut off.

This was the way I did it, but Microsoft may have another idea. See this
link:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928228

Good luck, and no worries!

EW
 
D

dean-dean

System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files, but you would
have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted files weren't
corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be easy to
figure out.

nweissma said:
why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair corrupted
files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
Dean-Dean said:
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns. Your
post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and find the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the prompt
starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.

I've run SFC with no problems found, or, as SFC puts it, "Windows
Resource
Protection did not find any integrity violations". Here are my locations
for
tcpmon.ini and settings.ini:

C:\Windows\System32\tcpmon.ini (Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created
November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-p..rtmonitor-tcpmonini_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d04210aeaa5e863a\tcpmon.ini
(Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created November ‎02, ‎2006)

C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\settings.ini (Modified and Created
‎November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-sidebar_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_cca5e9c129bd0a02\settings.ini
(Modified and Created ‎November ‎02, ‎2006)

The C:\Windows\winsxs\ subfolders are where SFC crosschecks the system
files
on your computer. For tcpmon.ini and settings.ini, under
C:\Windows\winsxs\, do you have the corresponding subfolders, noted
above?

Like you, I don't see the two "irreparable" files as cause for real
concern...

LoneStar said:
dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your answer and
working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I isolated the
two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The "tcpmon.ini"
works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though much of
the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do with the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I guess.
Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the cbs.log
file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a new
log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end of
the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a log
for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR] tags,
in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned about
your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's reason for
not
repairing them...

My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw that
the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process. Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned about the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
N

nweissma

this i did - and i am incredulous! -- the *only file* which is identified
as irreparable is ... a windows *true font* called mingliu.ttc !!

CAN THIS POSSIBLY BE??!! can this be what is preventing the windows firewall
from starting? (and other anomalies in ie7 (that i've been told is due to an
improper configuration of ie7))

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
LoneStar said:
nweissma said:
i have the identical situation (/scannow states, but does not identify,
irreparable corrupted files). i am looking at [sfc /verifyonly] a 35 MB
cbs.txt log - how do i identify which files are corrupted? after i've
identified them, how can i repair (from the disk) only them?

Here's what I did to find the irreparable files:

Open your CBS.log file in Notepad (hopefully, your Notepad can handle 25
MB!). Go to the Edit tab and use your "Find" selection to search the
words "Cannot repair member file." This will give you a mildly complex
explanation and name of the file found to be in "error." Use "Find Next"
until you've seen them all. In my case, it found 2 files, but they were
not really bad files, just a fluke because the items they referred to were
files used on hardware that I had shut off.

This was the way I did it, but Microsoft may have another idea. See this
link:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928228

Good luck, and no worries!

EW
 
G

Guest

i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you determine the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return system files and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore the operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the issue. When you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state, *** programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so obvious: why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully configured? all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the baby out with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> cbs.txt (all 35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that the reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7 problems, is
due to a corruption of a file named mingliu.ttc - a windows "true font"
file!! cbs.txt identifies this as *the only* sfc.exe /scannow irrepartable
file!!

can this possibly be causing my windows firewall problem? and for *this*, i
am going to jeopardize my antimalware?

so, what can vista's restore feature be used for, with a net benefit?


dean-dean said:
System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files, but you would
have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted files weren't
corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be easy to
figure out.

nweissma said:
why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair corrupted
files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
Dean-Dean said:
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns. Your
post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and find the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the prompt
starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.

I've run SFC with no problems found, or, as SFC puts it, "Windows
Resource
Protection did not find any integrity violations". Here are my locations
for
tcpmon.ini and settings.ini:

C:\Windows\System32\tcpmon.ini (Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created
November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-p..rtmonitor-tcpmonini_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d04210aeaa5e863a\tcpmon.ini
(Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created November ‎02, ‎2006)

C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\settings.ini (Modified and Created
‎November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-sidebar_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_cca5e9c129bd0a02\settings.ini
(Modified and Created ‎November ‎02, ‎2006)

The C:\Windows\winsxs\ subfolders are where SFC crosschecks the system
files
on your computer. For tcpmon.ini and settings.ini, under
C:\Windows\winsxs\, do you have the corresponding subfolders, noted
above?

Like you, I don't see the two "irreparable" files as cause for real
concern...

:

dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your answer and
working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I isolated the
two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The "tcpmon.ini"
works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though much of
the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do with the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I guess.
Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the cbs.log
file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a new
log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end of
the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a log
for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR] tags,
in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned about
your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's reason for
not
repairing them...

My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw that
the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process. Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned about the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
D

dean-dean

I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to repair
corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted files weren't
corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is able to
replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to file
corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your problems
most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the installation of a
3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly
have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file corruption
can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating
mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of
possibilities.

Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are basically
intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding Windows
Firewall? And your IE7 problems?

nweissma said:
i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you determine the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return system files
and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore the
operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the issue. When
you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state, ***
programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so obvious:
why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully configured?
all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the baby out
with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> cbs.txt (all
35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that the reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7 problems,
is
due to a corruption of a file named mingliu.ttc - a windows "true font"
file!! cbs.txt identifies this as *the only* sfc.exe /scannow irrepartable
file!!

can this possibly be causing my windows firewall problem? and for *this*,
i
am going to jeopardize my antimalware?

so, what can vista's restore feature be used for, with a net benefit?


dean-dean said:
System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files, but you
would
have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted files
weren't
corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be easy to
figure out.

nweissma said:
why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair corrupted
files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns. Your
post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a
sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and find the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the prompt
starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.

I've run SFC with no problems found, or, as SFC puts it, "Windows
Resource
Protection did not find any integrity violations". Here are my
locations
for
tcpmon.ini and settings.ini:

C:\Windows\System32\tcpmon.ini (Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006,
Created
November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-p..rtmonitor-tcpmonini_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d04210aeaa5e863a\tcpmon.ini
(Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created November ‎02, ‎2006)

C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\settings.ini (Modified and Created
‎November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-sidebar_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_cca5e9c129bd0a02\settings.ini
(Modified and Created ‎November ‎02, ‎2006)

The C:\Windows\winsxs\ subfolders are where SFC crosschecks the system
files
on your computer. For tcpmon.ini and settings.ini, under
C:\Windows\winsxs\, do you have the corresponding subfolders, noted
above?

Like you, I don't see the two "irreparable" files as cause for real
concern...

:

dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your answer and
working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I isolated
the
two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The
"tcpmon.ini"
works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though much
of
the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do with the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I guess.
Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the cbs.log
file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a
new
log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end of
the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a
log
for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR]
tags,
in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned
about
your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's reason
for
not
repairing them...

My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of
stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that
some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw
that
the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process.
Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned about
the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
G

Guest

it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone and with easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further probing, that the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified corrupted, and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he told me that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look forward to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran /verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this "true font"
..ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i forget the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od av's, and od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows firewall operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 hours; after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows firewall *was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he said that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible that i have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised on the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with the Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page never loads) .




dean-dean said:
I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to repair
corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted files weren't
corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is able to
replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to file
corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your problems
most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the installation of a
3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly
have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file corruption
can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating
mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of
possibilities.

Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are basically
intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding Windows
Firewall? And your IE7 problems?

nweissma said:
i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you determine the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return system files
and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore the
operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the issue. When
you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state, ***
programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so obvious:
why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully configured?
all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the baby out
with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> cbs.txt (all
35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that the reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7 problems,
is
due to a corruption of a file named mingliu.ttc - a windows "true font"
file!! cbs.txt identifies this as *the only* sfc.exe /scannow irrepartable
file!!

can this possibly be causing my windows firewall problem? and for *this*,
i
am going to jeopardize my antimalware?

so, what can vista's restore feature be used for, with a net benefit?


dean-dean said:
System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files, but you
would
have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted files
weren't
corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be easy to
figure out.

why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair corrupted
files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns. Your
post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a
sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and find the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the prompt
starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.

I've run SFC with no problems found, or, as SFC puts it, "Windows
Resource
Protection did not find any integrity violations". Here are my
locations
for
tcpmon.ini and settings.ini:

C:\Windows\System32\tcpmon.ini (Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006,
Created
November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-p..rtmonitor-tcpmonini_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d04210aeaa5e863a\tcpmon.ini
(Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created November ‎02, ‎2006)

C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\settings.ini (Modified and Created
‎November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-sidebar_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_cca5e9c129bd0a02\settings.ini
(Modified and Created ‎November ‎02, ‎2006)

The C:\Windows\winsxs\ subfolders are where SFC crosschecks the system
files
on your computer. For tcpmon.ini and settings.ini, under
C:\Windows\winsxs\, do you have the corresponding subfolders, noted
above?

Like you, I don't see the two "irreparable" files as cause for real
concern...

:

dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your answer and
working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I isolated
the
two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The
"tcpmon.ini"
works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though much
of
the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do with the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I guess.
Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the cbs.log
file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a
new
log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end of
the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a
log
for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR]
tags,
in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned
about
your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's reason
for
not
repairing them...

My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of
stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that
some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw
that
the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process.
Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned about
the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
D

dean-dean

You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares". What do
the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender real-time
protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus program
correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly?

Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and running,
and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection, running.
Too many processes in this area running in the background are going to cause
conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your computer.
Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting its
status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your "Anti-'s".
One Care is off the table; what's on the table?

Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or too many
3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For starters, if
you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came from your
computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them.

To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to understand what
the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by
right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator. Next, open
Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories)
(Run as Administrator), and type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop. Looking at
entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted in that
text file?


nweissma said:
it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone and with
easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further probing, that
the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified corrupted, and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he told me
that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look forward to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran /verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this "true
font"
.ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i forget the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od av's, and od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows firewall
operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 hours; after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows firewall *was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he said
that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible that i
have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised on the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with the Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page never loads)
.




dean-dean said:
I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to repair
corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted files
weren't
corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is able
to
replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to file
corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your problems
most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the installation of a
3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly
have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file
corruption
can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating
mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of
possibilities.

Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are basically
intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding Windows
Firewall? And your IE7 problems?

nweissma said:
i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you determine
the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return system
files
and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore the
operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the issue.
When
you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state, ***
programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so
obvious:
why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully configured?
all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the baby
out
with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> cbs.txt
(all
35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that the
reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7
problems,
is
due to a corruption of a file named mingliu.ttc - a windows "true font"
file!! cbs.txt identifies this as *the only* sfc.exe /scannow
irrepartable
file!!

can this possibly be causing my windows firewall problem? and for
*this*,
i
am going to jeopardize my antimalware?

so, what can vista's restore feature be used for, with a net benefit?


:

System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files, but you
would
have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted files
weren't
corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be easy
to
figure out.

why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair corrupted
files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns.
Your
post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a
sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and find
the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the prompt
starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.

I've run SFC with no problems found, or, as SFC puts it, "Windows
Resource
Protection did not find any integrity violations". Here are my
locations
for
tcpmon.ini and settings.ini:

C:\Windows\System32\tcpmon.ini (Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006,
Created
November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-p..rtmonitor-tcpmonini_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d04210aeaa5e863a\tcpmon.ini
(Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created November ‎02, ‎2006)

C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\settings.ini (Modified and Created
‎November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-sidebar_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_cca5e9c129bd0a02\settings.ini
(Modified and Created ‎November ‎02, ‎2006)

The C:\Windows\winsxs\ subfolders are where SFC crosschecks the
system
files
on your computer. For tcpmon.ini and settings.ini, under
C:\Windows\winsxs\, do you have the corresponding subfolders, noted
above?

Like you, I don't see the two "irreparable" files as cause for real
concern...

:

dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your answer
and
working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I
isolated
the
two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The
"tcpmon.ini"
works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though
much
of
the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do with
the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I guess.
Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the
cbs.log
file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a
new
log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end
of
the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a
log
for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which
installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR]
tags,
in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned
about
your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's
reason
for
not
repairing them...

My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran
SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of
stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that
some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw
that
the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process.
Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned
about
the
irreparable files? If so, how can I find them? Thanks.

EW
 
G

Guest

od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation
oa = on access - iow, real-time protection

i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast before
i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d, adaware,
and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no extraneous
toolbars - never did.

conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for
example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect windows
defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator
intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth documentation
is a major problem, imo.

sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing:



............ CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair


dean-dean said:
You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares". What do
the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender real-time
protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus program
correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly?

Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and running,
and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection, running.
Too many processes in this area running in the background are going to cause
conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your computer.
Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting its
status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your "Anti-'s".
One Care is off the table; what's on the table?

Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or too many
3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For starters, if
you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came from your
computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them.

To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to understand what
the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by
right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator. Next, open
Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories)
(Run as Administrator), and type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop. Looking at
entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted in that
text file?


nweissma said:
it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone and with
easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further probing, that
the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified corrupted, and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he told me
that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look forward to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran /verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this "true
font"
.ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i forget the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od av's, and od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows firewall
operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 hours; after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows firewall *was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he said
that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible that i
have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised on the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with the Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page never loads)
.




dean-dean said:
I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to repair
corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted files
weren't
corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is able
to
replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to file
corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your problems
most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the installation of a
3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly
have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file
corruption
can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating
mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of
possibilities.

Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are basically
intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding Windows
Firewall? And your IE7 problems?

i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you determine
the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return system
files
and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore the
operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the issue.
When
you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state, ***
programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so
obvious:
why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully configured?
all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the baby
out
with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> cbs.txt
(all
35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that the
reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7
problems,
is
due to a corruption of a file named mingliu.ttc - a windows "true font"
file!! cbs.txt identifies this as *the only* sfc.exe /scannow
irrepartable
file!!

can this possibly be causing my windows firewall problem? and for
*this*,
i
am going to jeopardize my antimalware?

so, what can vista's restore feature be used for, with a net benefit?


:

System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files, but you
would
have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted files
weren't
corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be easy
to
figure out.

why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair corrupted
files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns.
Your
post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a
sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and find
the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the prompt
starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.

I've run SFC with no problems found, or, as SFC puts it, "Windows
Resource
Protection did not find any integrity violations". Here are my
locations
for
tcpmon.ini and settings.ini:

C:\Windows\System32\tcpmon.ini (Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006,
Created
November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-p..rtmonitor-tcpmonini_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d04210aeaa5e863a\tcpmon.ini
(Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created November ‎02, ‎2006)

C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\settings.ini (Modified and Created
‎November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-sidebar_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_cca5e9c129bd0a02\settings.ini
(Modified and Created ‎November ‎02, ‎2006)

The C:\Windows\winsxs\ subfolders are where SFC crosschecks the
system
files
on your computer. For tcpmon.ini and settings.ini, under
C:\Windows\winsxs\, do you have the corresponding subfolders, noted
above?

Like you, I don't see the two "irreparable" files as cause for real
concern...

:

dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your answer
and
working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I
isolated
the
two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The
"tcpmon.ini"
works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though
much
of
the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do with
the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I guess.
Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the
cbs.log
file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't create a
new
log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the end
of
the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file is a
log
for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which
installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the [SR]
tags,
in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be concerned
about
your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's
reason
for
not
repairing them...

My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran
SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots of
stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed that
some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and saw
that
the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly process.
Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned
 
W

William Beard

Back on 5/8, I went through this with dean-dean. I ended up reinstalling
Vista after which I ran a sfc /scannow with a 99% completion. That equates
to 100%, if you count 0% as 1%. It didn't take two days before the CBS.log
was recording a corrupt system, again.

Does anyone know how many times we can reinstall Vista before MS blocks our
Key?

The only way this will be resolved is how the Starship Enterprise did (will
do) it. "...shut down of all affected systems and reboot from Core-memory."
We need to install a barebones Windows on a Flash Drive (Core-memory).
Then, whenever MS came out with a new O/S we buy a new Flash Drive with
Windows already installed. After that, download all the updated. The
problem with Restore Points, as dean-dean indicated, is that as you create
Restore Points the first one is shoved off the stack. You have a stack of
four that you can see. But the only one you "know" is good is number one.
And, that one was shoved off the stack a long time ago. So, you are stuck
with reinstalling Vista. Now, I repeat my question. Does anyone know how
many times we can reinstall Vista before MS blocks our Key?
 
L

LoneStar

nweissma said:
this i did - and i am incredulous! -- the *only file* which is identified
as irreparable is ... a windows *true font* called mingliu.ttc !!

CAN THIS POSSIBLY BE??!! can this be what is preventing the windows
firewall from starting? (and other anomalies in ie7 (that i've been told
is due to an improper configuration of ie7))

First, I'm glad it worked and you were able to fine the "bad" file. If I
were you, I'd be happy that it's the ONLY one at fault.

Second, I personally doubt the font file is causing your firewall and IE7
problems; however, you probably know more about Vista than I do. "IF" you
have a system purchased new with Vista, you may consider a complete Restore
operation from your Restore partition or DVD and reload your apps. Doesn't
take (too) long. Don't know about the complexity of your antimalware
installs, but you might have to choose, rock or a hard place.

I also installed LiveOne Care and all went well.

I'll follow this thread to see where it goes. Hope the MVPs can come up
with something for you.

EW
 
D

dean-dean

Thanks for the definitions (od, oa); live and learn!
I daresay that your problems with IE7 may well be attributed to real-time
protection programs going at it all at once, not to mention that User
Account Control may be in the mix, too. You're right, no one knows exactly
how all the Anti-Malware real-time protections intersect in combination;
since an individual is free to install as many of these programs as they
like, who's to know the consequences of all the combinations possible (what
with a multitude of registry insertions, active files on your computer,
ActiveX controls, hosts file modification, "Anti-Spyware" that may be a ruse
for adware, and on and on)? Of course, you can do what you like, but I'd
tone it down to using one Anti-Virus program (uninstall any others), and
have only one Anti-Malware program with real-time protection active, if your
Anti-Virus program doesn't provide that option. You can use their on-demand
scanning, but turn off the real-time protection capabilities of Spyware
Terminator, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D (Tea Timer), etc. If you are using Avast's
Web Shield, turn off real-time protection in Windows Defender (or at least
those items that affect IE7). Or turn off Web Shield and use Defender. Once
you've done that, do this to see if Security Center's Windows Firewall
status can be fixed :

Right-click Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. Type the following
command:

winmgmt /verifyrepository

If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", run this command:

winmgmt /salvagerepository

The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands to
the services causing it to fail. It might take a couple minutes for the
services to shut down). Run the command again. You actually may have to
run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own.

Reboot your system.

In terms of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", consider this. The
point of Anti-Virus programs, etc., is to keep you computer usable, stable,
and safe. If you over-do the programs, you may have defeated your
purpose. Six SFC non-repairable items is not the norm...


nweissma said:
od = on demand - iow, scanning mode of operation
oa = on access - iow, real-time protection

i have only one oa av (avast), several av scanners (i turn off avast
before
i scan to avoid conflict), several antispyware scanners (spybot s&d,
adaware,
and others), and windows defender works just fine. i have no extraneous
toolbars - never did.

conflicts? how do i know whether antimalware purviews intersect? for
example, does real-time spybot s&d's tea timer function intersect windows
defender? do somne of the antispyware function of spyware terminator
intersect with defender, or spybot s&d? how do i know - dearth
documentation
is a major problem, imo.

sfcdetails.txt reveals 6 entries that all say the same thing:



........... CSI ........00000xxx [SR] Cannot Repair


dean-dean said:
You lost me with "3rd party oa av, od av's, and od antispywares". What
do
the initials (od, oa) mean? Are you using Windows Defender real-time
protection as well? Is Security Center reporting your Anti-virus program
correctly? Is it reporting Windows Defender correctly?

Basically, I would have only one Anti-virus program installed and
running,
and one Anti-spyware program, if it's using real-time protection,
running.
Too many processes in this area running in the background are going to
cause
conflicts, not to mention radically impact the performance of your
computer.
Hold off on another Firewall. Security Center may be mis-reporting its
status, and that may be fixable. I just need clarity on all your
"Anti-'s".
One Care is off the table; what's on the table?

Your IE7 problems may be a result of the issues stated above, or too many
3rd party toolbars and plug-ins, or combinations thereof. For starters,
if
you are using any toolbars (Google, Yahoo, MSN, or one that came from
your
computer manufacturer, etc.), I would uninstall them.

To get a proper take on your current SFC situation, and to understand
what
the MS tech might have seen, I would do this. Run SFC /scannow, by
right-clicking Command Prompt and choosing Run as Administrator. Next,
open
Command Prompt again (use the shortcut in Start
Menu\Programs\Accessories)
(Run as Administrator), and type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop. Looking
at
entries for the current date, ONLY, do you see any problems noted in that
text file?


nweissma said:
it was an ms tech, not me, who, after three hours on the phone and with
easy
assist, ran the sfc /scannow, and decided, without further probing,
that
the
source of the firewall problem lies in the unidentified corrupted, and
irreparable, files (*he* did not sfc /verifyonly - *i* did). he told me
that
i needed to reinstall vista from dvd - not something i look forward
to -
notwithstanding that i need the experience anyway. when i ran
/verifyonly,
and discovered that the only irreparably corrupted file was this "true
font"
.ttc, i was, as you can imagine, shocked!

when i installed onecare (4-5 weeks ago), windows firewall was
necessarily
rendered inoperative. 2 weeks later, i uninstalled onecare (i forget
the
details - either it was causing me trouble or it was not adequately
performing; in either case, i installed a 3rd party oa av, od av's, and
od
antispywares), and i have not been able to render windows firewall
operative.

another ms tech, 2 weeks ago, also had me on the phone for 3 hours;
after
reading a log (i forget which), he concluded that windows firewall *was
working* - even though it is reporting that it is not. nor is the
security
center. nor can i turn them on. i would certainly install a 3rd party
firewall, but i am worried about firewall conflict - remember, he said
that
windows firewall *is working*. so now i don't know - is windows
firewall
working or, as it's reporting itself, it is not? - it is possible that
i
have
not had a firewall for 3 weeks.

what symptoms manifest a firewall conflict (if i install the 3rd party
firewall, how will i know that i have a conflict?)

wrt the ie7 matter, that the second ms tech said must be premised on
the
(unidentified) corrupted files: it seems to have a problem with the
Ajax
technology, suchg as is found in gmail, and when i visit
www.techarp.com
(other sites continuously refresh so violently that the page never
loads)
.




:

I think you missed my point. System Restore is not a good way to
repair
corrupted files, if you don't know at what point the corrupted files
weren't
corrupt (using System Restore, you have to choose a date). SFC is
able
to
replace corrupted System files, but your issues may not be due to file
corruption. If SFC only found a font as problematic, then your
problems
most likely are caused by some other conflict, like the installation
of a
3rd party program. If you "cannot activate windows firewall, and
possibly
have other ie7 problems", and you tried SFC /scannow, then file
corruption
can be ruled out. You jumped to the wrong conclusion by equating
mingliu.ttc as the source of your issues. There's a wide gamut of
possibilities.

Now that we know that your Windows Firewall and IE7 files are
basically
intact and okay, specifically, what are the symptoms regarding Windows
Firewall? And your IE7 problems?

i question its value as a way to restore corrupted files

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936212/en-us

this kb states:

"Using the System Restore tool may not necessarily help you
determine
the
issue. The System Restore tool uses restore points to return system
files
and
settings to an earlier point in time. You can use it to restore the
operating
system to a point in time in which you did not experience the issue.
When
you
use System Restore to restore the computer to a previous state, ***
programs
and updates that you installed are removed. ***"

as a newbie, this question may seem ridiculous because it is so
obvious:
why
would i want to remove all the antimalware that i carefully
configured?
all i
want to do is repair one or two corrupted files - not throw the baby
out
with
the bathwater.

as i just stated in another post, the sfc.exe /verifyonly >> cbs.txt
(all
35
MB of it!) produced the startling, psychedelic revelation that the
reason
that i cannot activate windows firewall, and possibly other ie7
problems,
is
due to a corruption of a file named mingliu.ttc - a windows "true
font"
file!! cbs.txt identifies this as *the only* sfc.exe /scannow
irrepartable
file!!

can this possibly be causing my windows firewall problem? and for
*this*,
i
am going to jeopardize my antimalware?

so, what can vista's restore feature be used for, with a net
benefit?


:

System Restore could be used to repair corrupted system files, but
you
would
have to choose a restore point with a date when the corrupted files
weren't
corrupted. Knowing when the files weren't corrupted may not be
easy
to
figure out.

why can't Vista's System Restore feature be used to repair
corrupted
files?

--


--Fool On The Hill
[32-bit Vista Home Premium]
It looks like you were able to sort out a few of your concerns.
Your
post
reminded me that I'd forgotten to tell you about making a
sfcdetails.txt
file, but it looks like you figured it out:

To create only SFC information gleaned from the cbs.log, and
find
the
sfcdetails.txt easily, open command prompt. By default, the
prompt
starts in
C:\Users\(Your Name). Type

cd desktop

Press Enter on your keyboard. Then type

findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >sfcdetails.txt

Press Enter. Sfcdetails.txt should then appear on your Desktop.

I've run SFC with no problems found, or, as SFC puts it,
"Windows
Resource
Protection did not find any integrity violations". Here are my
locations
for
tcpmon.ini and settings.ini:

C:\Windows\System32\tcpmon.ini (Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006,
Created
November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-p..rtmonitor-tcpmonini_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_d04210aeaa5e863a\tcpmon.ini
(Modified ‎September ‎19, ‎2006, Created November ‎02, ‎2006)

C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar\settings.ini (Modified and
Created
‎November ‎02, ‎2006)
C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-sidebar_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_cca5e9c129bd0a02\settings.ini
(Modified and Created ‎November ‎02, ‎2006)

The C:\Windows\winsxs\ subfolders are where SFC crosschecks the
system
files
on your computer. For tcpmon.ini and settings.ini, under
C:\Windows\winsxs\, do you have the corresponding subfolders,
noted
above?

Like you, I don't see the two "irreparable" files as cause for
real
concern...

:

dean......... thanks for the reply. After reviewing your
answer
and
working
with Notepad and a KB article I found on the MS website, I
isolated
the
two
"irreparable" files as: tcpmon.ini and settings.ini. The
"tcpmon.ini"
works
with my new printer which works PERFECTLY with my Vista (though
much
of
the
time it's turned OFF) and the "settings.ini" fault has to do
with
the
Windows Sidebar, which I have disabled. No worries here, I
guess.
Whew!
Your reply gave me a good start into learning much about the
cbs.log
file
and how SFC works. Cheers.

EW

message
SFC appends its report to the cbs.log (i.e., it doesn't
create a
new
log
each time you run SFC). The latest info will be towards the
end
of
the
log
(it will be dated, under each POQ entry). The cbs.log file
is a
log
for
both SFC and the Windows Modules Installer service, which
installs
optional
features, updates, and service packs. Keep your eye on the
[SR]
tags,
in
the log, which are the System File Checker entries.

It's not possible to say whether or not you should be
concerned
about
your
irreparable files, without knowing what they are, and SFC's
reason
for
not
repairing them...

My new Vista system runs very fast and well. However, I ran
SFC
/verifyonly and got a 17MB file in the CBS.log folder. Lots
of
stuff
there that "looks" really scary, but what do I know!

Question: Later, I ran sfc /scannow and the result showed
that
some
system
files couldn't be repaired! I went to the cbs.log file and
saw
that
the
file was the one dated from the first sfc /verifyonly
process.
Isn't
there supposed to be a log from the ..../scannow process
also?

Finally, if my Vista runs flawlessly, should I be concerned
 
D

dean-dean

Hi William. Did you ever locate Locate? I hope you saw my instructions in
that other SFC thread...

Anyway, you can reinstall Windows on the same computer as many times as you
want, because activation pairs the Windows product key with information
about your computer's hardware. If you make a significant hardware change,
you might have to activate Windows again. Basically, a Windows license is
tied to a single computer, and not to a person. There's no tally kept of
how many time you intall Vista.
 

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