Setting 'System managed' page file for d: drive causes high CPU us

D

Dima

Hello!
Setting 'System managed' page file for my d: drive (EIDE Samsung SP2514N on
JMicron JMB363 PATA and SATA controller on my Asus P5K motherboard) causes
explorer.exe to use about 90% of CPU after a restart for several minutes and
in about 10 minutes intervals during 720p video playback in VLC Player for
several minutes.
RAM 6GB, CPU Intel E6750. Vista Ultimate x64.
I have set 'no page file' for my d: drive (EIDE Samsung SP2514N on my Asus
P5K motherboard) and the problem disappeared. Why does setting page file for
my d: drive cause the high CPU usage? My d: drive is least frequently used.
I have not changed 'System managed' for my G: drive.
I have set 'System managed' for my c: drive (WD5005000AACS ATA) too, and the
problem have not reappeared.
Regards,
Dima
 
G

Gordon

Dima said:
Hello!
Setting 'System managed' page file for my d: drive (EIDE Samsung SP2514N
on
JMicron JMB363 PATA and SATA controller on my Asus P5K motherboard)
causes
explorer.exe to use about 90% of CPU after a restart for several minutes
and
in about 10 minutes intervals during 720p video playback in VLC Player for
several minutes.
RAM 6GB, CPU Intel E6750. Vista Ultimate x64.
I have set 'no page file' for my d: drive (EIDE Samsung SP2514N on my Asus
P5K motherboard) and the problem disappeared. Why does setting page file
for
my d: drive cause the high CPU usage? My d: drive is least frequently
used.
I have not changed 'System managed' for my G: drive.
I have set 'System managed' for my c: drive (WD5005000AACS ATA) too, and
the
problem have not reappeared.
Regards,
Dima
Click to expand...

You only need ONE page file for your entire system - you do NOT need one for
each drive......and if these drives are partitions and not
physically-separate hard disks then there's no advantage in moving the page
file from C drive either....
 
D

Dima

Thanks Gordon for your reply!
I have 3 HDDs: 2 SATA: C: and G: and one EIDE d:. I do not have logical
partitions. MS writes that Windows uses a page file on a less busy HDD at a
time. The busyness changes over time, therefore MS recomends to spread a page
file over all phisical HDDs.
What program can assess performance with different locations of a page file?
I want to compare different locations of a page file.
Regards,
Dima
 
G

Gordon

Dima said:
Thanks Gordon for your reply!
I have 3 HDDs: 2 SATA: C: and G: and one EIDE d:. I do not have logical
partitions. MS writes that Windows uses a page file on a less busy HDD at
a
time. The busyness changes over time, therefore MS recomends to spread a
page
file over all phisical HDDs.
Click to expand...

Never heard that one before - can you post a link to that?
 
D

Dima

Thanks Gordon for your suggestion!
My least-utilised HDD is EIDE Samsung SP2514N on JMicron JMB363 PATA and
SATA controller on my Asus P5K motherboard. Asus writes that EIDE controller
works slower than SATA on Asus P5K motherboard. It looks like explorer.exe
loads CPU more when a page file is on EIDE HDD.
A least-utilised HDD changes over time: uTorrent seeds several-Gb-files and
I play HD videos from C:, D: and G: HDDs alternately.
If D: and G: HDDs are busy at the same time, its better to use a page file
on C: HDD, therefore the C: page file should be normal sized. If only G: HDD
is busy, its better to use a page file on d: HDD, because C: is a system HDD.
Am I right?
How to test performance of different page file locations?
Regard,
Dima
 
D

Dima

Thanks Gordon for replying!
Is there a software that evaluates PC performance including a page file usage?
Why could explorer.exe use 95% of CPU time for minutes without a user input?
Regards,
Dima
 
G

Gordon

Dima said:
Thanks Gordon for replying!
Is there a software that evaluates PC performance including a page file
usage?
Why could explorer.exe use 95% of CPU time for minutes without a user
input?
Click to expand...

I don't know. Have you tried googling "PC performance analysis software"?
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Thanks Gordon for replying!
Is there a software that evaluates PC performance including a page file usage?
Click to expand...


Go to http://billsway.com/notes_public/winxp_tweaks/ and download
WinXP-2K_Pagefile.zip and monitor your page file usage. That should
give you a good idea of how much of the page file is actually used.

I believe that in another message you said you had 6GB of RAM. With
that much RAM, it's highly likely that your page file is not used at
all or is used very little. In that case, it doesn't really matter
where you put it or how large it is.
 
G

Gordon's Psychiatrist

Gordon said:
Never heard that one before - can you post a link to that?
Click to expand...

Err - You have <sigh> never heard that one before? Err? Maybe, Err,
they can post a link Err <sigh>
 
G

Gordon's Psychiatrist

Gordon said:
I don't know. Have you tried googling "PC performance analysis software"?
Click to expand...

Err - Maybe they have Err tried googling before. Err.
 
D

Dima

Thanks Ken for your reply!
explorer.exe began to use much of CPU after increasing RAM from 2GB to 6GB
when I open a 4Gb mkv file in VLC player when uTorrent has been seeding for 8
hours already.
Before increasing RAM, HDD was busy for several minutes in 30 minutes
intervals when uTorrent has been seeding.
How to prevent the explorer.exe from overloading CPU?
ProcessExplorer64.exe
http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/ProcessExplorer.zip gives the
following for explorer.exe when the later uses much of CPU:
Process PID CPU Description Company Name
System Idle Process 0 67.42
Interrupts n/a Hardware Interrupts
DPCs n/a Deferred Procedure Calls
System 4
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csrss.exe 552 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation
wininit.exe 608 Windows Start-Up Application Microsoft Corporation
csrss.exe 628 1.52 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation
winlogon.exe 964 Windows Logon Application Microsoft Corporation
taskmgr.exe 3820 Windows Task Manager Microsoft Corporation
explorer.exe 2028 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation
uTorrent.exe 2712 µTorrent BitTorrent, Inc.
magent.exe 2920 Mail.Ru Ðгент Mail.Ru
cmd.exe 3248 Windows Command Processor Microsoft Corporation
conime.exe 3644 Console IME Microsoft Corporation
chkdsk.exe 3320 6.06 Check Disk Utility Microsoft Corporation
cmd.exe 3720 Windows Command Processor Microsoft Corporation
chkdsk.exe 3420 2.27 Check Disk Utility Microsoft Corporation
cmd.exe 3496 Windows Command Processor Microsoft Corporation
procexp64.exe 3028 22.73 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals -
www.sysinternals.com

Process: explorer.exe Pid: 2028

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Regards,
Dima
 

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