Second question on XP Home

[Michael P Gabriel]

Hi, I have two PC's and when I get my WIN XP H.E. I should like to put
it onto my spare computer as well:

Question: Should I? Or should I keep WIN 98SE on my spare computer.
Any reason I should have, or not have WIN XP on both? Will it cause a
problem trying to get it authorized with MS?

Thanks!

Mike

 

[MoserRJ]

One license , one machine. If you want XP on the second machine the EULA
requires you to buy another license.

 

[kurttrail]

Hi, I have two PC's and when I get my WIN XP H.E. I should like to put
it onto my spare computer as well:

Question: Should I? Or should I keep WIN 98SE on my spare computer.

I'd definitely keep Win98SE around, but that doesn't mean you couldn't have
both.

Any reason I should have, or not have WIN XP on both?

Soon a whole bunch of MicroClowns will be getting out of an old VW Bug,
telling you how wrong it is. That would be their own personal opinion, and
you have every right to decide otherwise.

Will it cause a

problem trying to get it authorized with MS?

Not much, if you know how to protect your rights to your copy of software.

http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/

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[Mike Brannigan [MSFT]]

Hi, I have two PC's and when I get my WIN XP H.E. I should like to put
it onto my spare computer as well:

Question: Should I? Or should I keep WIN 98SE on my spare computer.
Any reason I should have, or not have WIN XP on both? Will it cause a
problem trying to get it authorized with MS?

Regardless of the advice of some posters you will see here that appears to
contradict the End User License Agreement (EULA) or in some way tries and
lead you to believe that you are not required to adhere to EULA; if you have
any doubt about the validity of the Microsoft EULA you should seek
professional legal advice and you may also wish to contact our Legal and
Corporate Affairs department at our head office in Redmond WA USA.
The address is published on.
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/info/contact.asp

see also http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/legal/
subpage http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/

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[kurttrail]

Regardless of the advice of some posters you will see here that
appears to contradict the End User License Agreement (EULA) or in
some way tries and lead you to believe that you are not required to
adhere to EULA; if you have any doubt about the validity of the
Microsoft EULA you should seek professional legal advice and you may
also wish to contact our Legal and Corporate Affairs department at
our head office in Redmond WA USA.
The address is published on.
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/info/contact.asp

see also http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/legal/
subpage http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/

You mean the company that goes after a kid's web domain for trademark
infringement, when the kid is just doing some part-time web page design
in his spare time somewhere is the backwoods of Canada?

You mean the company that said,"So?" when it was told that is was a
illegal predatory monopoly by the Federal Courts?

You mean the company that's been losing & settling patent infringement
case against them, at a record pace lately?

Oh yeah, like I'd believe MS's legal interpretations about anything!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

And wouldn't it be a conflict of interest, for MS's legal dept. to give out
legal advice about it's own license? Get real!

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[Cerridwen]

I'd definitely keep Win98SE around, but that doesn't mean you
couldn't have both.


Soon a whole bunch of MicroClowns will be getting out of an old VW
Bug, telling you how wrong it is. That would be their own personal
opinion, and you have every right to decide otherwise.

Will it cause a

Not much, if you know how to protect your rights to your copy of
software.

http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/

Oh here we go again!

1) Since when has it not been wrong to steal?!

2) You do *NOT* own "a copy of the software" merely a licence to use it.
The software belongs to Microsoft, just as Photoshop belongs to Adobe, and
WordPerfect to Corel.

 

[kurttrail]

Oh here we go again!

1) Since when has it not been wrong to steal?!

It's not stealing, it is a simple contract dispute. And there is absolutely
no law that makes breaking contractual terms, in and of itself.

2) You do *NOT* own "a copy of the software" merely a licence to
use it.

Yes you do. It was sold by the retailer who wasn't a licensee of that copy,
who was in turn sold the copy of software by the previous owner, the
wholeseller, who wasn't a licensee, of the software.

What is a copy of copyrighted material under copyright law? The physical
media in which the copyrighted material resides. You own the effin' CD, not
MS!

You are sold a "copy of software" that comes with a shrinkwrap license, not
a software license. Your TV came with a shrinkwrap license too, would you
believe the the TV manufacturer if he treid to tell you you don't own your
TV?

The software belongs to Microsoft, just as Photoshop belongs
to Adobe, and WordPerfect to Corel.

The software is unownable except as expressed in the form of some physical
media like a CD. What MS, Adobe, and Corel owns is the copyright to the
software. And Copyright law places a specific limitation on computer
program copyright owners saying it isn't infringement for the owner of a
*copy* of software to make additional installations on previously unknown
computers.

For my full argument on the subject, please read:
http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/

And don't bother replying, unless you're man enough to back it up with laws
and legal precedents, as I have in my FAQ.

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[Cerridwen]

You mean the company that goes after a kid's web domain for trademark
infringement, when the kid is just doing some part-time web page
design
in his spare time somewhere is the backwoods of Canada?

You mean the company that said,"So?" when it was told that is was a
illegal predatory monopoly by the Federal Courts?

You mean the company that's been losing & settling patent infringement
case against them, at a record pace lately?

Oh yeah, like I'd believe MS's legal interpretations about anything!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

And wouldn't it be a conflict of interest, for MS's legal dept. to
give out legal advice about it's own license? Get real!

I have read that three times and I've yet to find a point. Which sums you up
perfectly, Kurt; utterly, utterly pointless.

 

[kurttrail]

I have read that three times and I've yet to find a point. Which sums
you up perfectly, Kurt; utterly, utterly pointless.

1.) MS is no stranger being on the wrong side of the law, and their legal
dept. hasn't helped keep MS out of legal troubles.

2.) That it is completely laughable thinking any rational human being would
accept the legal advice of MS's legal dept., because of the absolutely
obvious conflict of interest.

MS has no intention of ever trying to legally enforce their shrinkwrap
license terms on private individuals, because they know they don't stand a
chance in hell of convincing a judge that they have the right to know how MS
software is used in the privacy of any individual's home.

And that's exactly what it would come down to, a judge ruling that a
corporation has rights in an individuals home, just because they bought a
retail software product. I just don't see that happening.

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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

As it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating systems,
it's necessary (to be in compliance with the EULA, if not technically)
to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it is
installed. The only way in which WinXP licensing differs from that of
earlier versions of Windows is that Microsoft has finally added a copy
protection and anti-theft mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent
(or at least make more difficult) multiple installations using a
single license.


Bruce Chambers

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[Alex Nichol]

Hi, I have two PC's and when I get my WIN XP H.E. I should like to put
it onto my spare computer as well:

Not allowed from the same copy. Windows (always) is licensed as one
copy per machine, and there are now steps to bring the point home. You
would have to buy a second copy for the second machine, which anyway may
not be all that adequate for XP, and I would leave it as it is