scandisk versus disk cleanup

[Ken Blake]

MS is usually good at naming things similar to confuse people.

Yes. I completely agree. All your examples are good ones.

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Outlook, Outlook Express. Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer. Messenger
Service, Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger. And don't forget the
Quicksilver Messenger Service. ;-)

Chkdsk.exe (MS-DOS version), scandisk.exe and chkdsk.exe (XP/NT version).

[[Chkdsk is a utility which checks the computers hard disk drives status
for
any cross-linked or any additional errors with the hard disk drive.

MS-DOS versions 2.x - 4.x used chkdsk.com
MS-DOS versions 5.x and beyond used chkdsk.exe.]]
http://www.computerhope.com/chkdskh.htm

[[scandisk.exe from Microsoft is a system utility which runs Scandisk on
your computer, which scans the local disk drive for hardware errors.]]
http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/scandisk/

[[Chkdsk (Chkdsk.exe) is a command-line tool that checks volumes for
problems and attempts to repair any that it finds. For example, Chkdsk can
repair problems related to bad sectors, lost clusters, cross-linked
files]]
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prmb_tol_pwfd.asp

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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[Wesley Vogel]

I was hoping for a comment on Quicksilver Messenger Service. ;-)

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MS is usually good at naming things similar to confuse people.

Yes. I completely agree. All your examples are good ones.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Outlook, Outlook Express. Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer.
Messenger Service, Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger. And don't
forget the Quicksilver Messenger Service. ;-)

Chkdsk.exe (MS-DOS version), scandisk.exe and chkdsk.exe (XP/NT version).

[[Chkdsk is a utility which checks the computers hard disk drives status
for
any cross-linked or any additional errors with the hard disk drive.

MS-DOS versions 2.x - 4.x used chkdsk.com
MS-DOS versions 5.x and beyond used chkdsk.exe.]]
http://www.computerhope.com/chkdskh.htm

[[scandisk.exe from Microsoft is a system utility which runs Scandisk on
your computer, which scans the local disk drive for hardware errors.]]
http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/scandisk/

[[Chkdsk (Chkdsk.exe) is a command-line tool that checks volumes for
problems and attempts to repair any that it finds. For example, Chkdsk
can repair problems related to bad sectors, lost clusters, cross-linked
files]]
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prmb_tol_pwfd.asp

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Dean wrote:

Ah, yes. I didn't think they would make it harder than before. Thanks
to
both you and alias.


You're welcome. I don't think it's really any harder, and scandisk
wasn't before chkdsk. In fact it was the other way around; chkdsk is the
original, older, name.

But, as far as I'm concerned, it was mistake to have two different names
for what is essentially the same function. You're not the first person
to have been confused because he couldn't find scandisk in Windows XP
and you won't be the last.When you give something a name, you should
stick with it, even if you can come up with a better name later. The
confusion caused by changing names overshadows the potential benefit of
the name change.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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Let's see if this helps my dreadfully slow XP Home computer.

Dean

Dean wrote:

For the longest time I was thinking that scandisk had been renamed
or replaced by disk cleanup, i.e., for Windows XP. Now, I am
starting to realize that they are different. I do not see scandisk
on my XP computer. Why might that be?


Scandisk is the name given to that program in Windows 9x and Me. In
all NT versions, including XP (and in DOS), it's called chkdsk.

Disk cleanup is completely different, but you can also get to chkdsk
by right-clicking the drive in My Computer or Windows Explorer,
choosing Properties. It's called "Error Checking" and it's on the
Tools tab. --
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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[Ken Blake]

I was hoping for a comment on Quicksilver Messenger Service. ;-)

Never having heard of it before, I had no comment. But a quick google search
tells me that it seems to be a band.

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Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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In

MS is usually good at naming things similar to confuse people.

Yes. I completely agree. All your examples are good ones.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Outlook, Outlook Express. Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer.
Messenger Service, Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger. And don't
forget the Quicksilver Messenger Service. ;-)

Chkdsk.exe (MS-DOS version), scandisk.exe and chkdsk.exe (XP/NT
version).

[[Chkdsk is a utility which checks the computers hard disk drives
status for
any cross-linked or any additional errors with the hard disk drive.

MS-DOS versions 2.x - 4.x used chkdsk.com
MS-DOS versions 5.x and beyond used chkdsk.exe.]]
http://www.computerhope.com/chkdskh.htm

[[scandisk.exe from Microsoft is a system utility which runs
Scandisk on your computer, which scans the local disk drive for
hardware errors.]]
http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/scandisk/

[[Chkdsk (Chkdsk.exe) is a command-line tool that checks volumes for
problems and attempts to repair any that it finds. For example,
Chkdsk can repair problems related to bad sectors, lost clusters,
cross-linked files]]
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prmb_tol_pwfd.asp

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Ken Blake <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Dean wrote:

Ah, yes. I didn't think they would make it harder than before.
Thanks to
both you and alias.


You're welcome. I don't think it's really any harder, and scandisk
wasn't before chkdsk. In fact it was the other way around; chkdsk
is the original, older, name.

But, as far as I'm concerned, it was mistake to have two different
names for what is essentially the same function. You're not the
first person to have been confused because he couldn't find
scandisk in Windows XP and you won't be the last.When you give
something a name, you should stick with it, even if you can come
up with a better name later. The confusion caused by changing
names overshadows the potential benefit of the name change.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



Let's see if this helps my dreadfully slow XP Home computer.

Dean

Dean wrote:

For the longest time I was thinking that scandisk had been
renamed or replaced by disk cleanup, i.e., for Windows XP.
Now, I am starting to realize that they are different. I do
not see scandisk on my XP computer. Why might that be?


Scandisk is the name given to that program in Windows 9x and Me.
In all NT versions, including XP (and in DOS), it's called
chkdsk.

Disk cleanup is completely different, but you can also get to
chkdsk by right-clicking the drive in My Computer or Windows
Explorer, choosing Properties. It's called "Error Checking" and
it's on the Tools tab. --
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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[Wesley Vogel]

And band is the correct answer. I must've had a 60's flashback.

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I was hoping for a comment on Quicksilver Messenger Service. ;-)

Never having heard of it before, I had no comment. But a quick google
search tells me that it seems to be a band.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

In

MS is usually good at naming things similar to confuse people.


Yes. I completely agree. All your examples are good ones.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


Outlook, Outlook Express. Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer.
Messenger Service, Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger. And don't
forget the Quicksilver Messenger Service. ;-)

Chkdsk.exe (MS-DOS version), scandisk.exe and chkdsk.exe (XP/NT
version).

[[Chkdsk is a utility which checks the computers hard disk drives
status for
any cross-linked or any additional errors with the hard disk drive.

MS-DOS versions 2.x - 4.x used chkdsk.com
MS-DOS versions 5.x and beyond used chkdsk.exe.]]
http://www.computerhope.com/chkdskh.htm

[[scandisk.exe from Microsoft is a system utility which runs
Scandisk on your computer, which scans the local disk drive for
hardware errors.]]
http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/scandisk/

[[Chkdsk (Chkdsk.exe) is a command-line tool that checks volumes for
problems and attempts to repair any that it finds. For example,
Chkdsk can repair problems related to bad sectors, lost clusters,
cross-linked files]]

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prmb_tol_pwfd.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Ken Blake <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Dean wrote:

Ah, yes. I didn't think they would make it harder than before.
Thanks to
both you and alias.


You're welcome. I don't think it's really any harder, and scandisk
wasn't before chkdsk. In fact it was the other way around; chkdsk
is the original, older, name.

But, as far as I'm concerned, it was mistake to have two different
names for what is essentially the same function. You're not the
first person to have been confused because he couldn't find
scandisk in Windows XP and you won't be the last.When you give
something a name, you should stick with it, even if you can come
up with a better name later. The confusion caused by changing
names overshadows the potential benefit of the name change.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



Let's see if this helps my dreadfully slow XP Home computer.

Dean

Dean wrote:

For the longest time I was thinking that scandisk had been
renamed or replaced by disk cleanup, i.e., for Windows XP.
Now, I am starting to realize that they are different. I do
not see scandisk on my XP computer. Why might that be?


Scandisk is the name given to that program in Windows 9x and Me.
In all NT versions, including XP (and in DOS), it's called
chkdsk.

Disk cleanup is completely different, but you can also get to
chkdsk by right-clicking the drive in My Computer or Windows
Explorer, choosing Properties. It's called "Error Checking" and
it's on the Tools tab. --
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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[Alias]

A good band at that.

Ah, the sixties.

Alias

And band is the correct answer. I must've had a 60's flashback.

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

I was hoping for a comment on Quicksilver Messenger Service. ;-)

Never having heard of it before, I had no comment. But a quick google
search tells me that it seems to be a band.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

In Ken Blake <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:

MS is usually good at naming things similar to confuse people.


Yes. I completely agree. All your examples are good ones.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


Outlook, Outlook Express. Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer.
Messenger Service, Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger. And don't
forget the Quicksilver Messenger Service. ;-)

Chkdsk.exe (MS-DOS version), scandisk.exe and chkdsk.exe (XP/NT
version).

[[Chkdsk is a utility which checks the computers hard disk drives
status for
any cross-linked or any additional errors with the hard disk drive.

MS-DOS versions 2.x - 4.x used chkdsk.com
MS-DOS versions 5.x and beyond used chkdsk.exe.]]
http://www.computerhope.com/chkdskh.htm

[[scandisk.exe from Microsoft is a system utility which runs
Scandisk on your computer, which scans the local disk drive for
hardware errors.]]
http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/scandisk/

[[Chkdsk (Chkdsk.exe) is a command-line tool that checks volumes for
problems and attempts to repair any that it finds. For example,
Chkdsk can repair problems related to bad sectors, lost clusters,
cross-linked files]]

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prmb_tol_pwfd.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Ken Blake <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Dean wrote:

Ah, yes. I didn't think they would make it harder than before.
Thanks to
both you and alias.


You're welcome. I don't think it's really any harder, and scandisk
wasn't before chkdsk. In fact it was the other way around; chkdsk
is the original, older, name.

But, as far as I'm concerned, it was mistake to have two different
names for what is essentially the same function. You're not the
first person to have been confused because he couldn't find
scandisk in Windows XP and you won't be the last.When you give
something a name, you should stick with it, even if you can come
up with a better name later. The confusion caused by changing
names overshadows the potential benefit of the name change.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



Let's see if this helps my dreadfully slow XP Home computer.

Dean

Dean wrote:

For the longest time I was thinking that scandisk had been
renamed or replaced by disk cleanup, i.e., for Windows XP.
Now, I am starting to realize that they are different. I do
not see scandisk on my XP computer. Why might that be?


Scandisk is the name given to that program in Windows 9x and Me.
In all NT versions, including XP (and in DOS), it's called
chkdsk.

Disk cleanup is completely different, but you can also get to
chkdsk by right-clicking the drive in My Computer or Windows
Explorer, choosing Properties. It's called "Error Checking" and
it's on the Tools tab. --
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

 

[Stan Brown]

For the longest time I was thinking that scandisk had been renamed or
replaced by disk cleanup, i.e., for Windows XP. Now, I am starting to
realize that they are different. I do not see scandisk on my XP
computer. Why might that be?

Because the NT version of Scandisk is Chkdisk.[/QUOTE]

On my computer that's spelled without an "i", chkdsk.

 

[Stan Brown]

I now see that chkdesk goes much slower, with those boxed checked.

There's no mystery about it -- checking the physical surface of every
sector on the disk takes a lot longer than just checking the validity
of entries in directories.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

For the longest time I was thinking that scandisk had been renamed or
replaced by disk cleanup, i.e., for Windows XP. Now, I am starting to
realize that they are different. I do not see scandisk on my XP computer.
Why might that be?

Thanks!
Dean

WinXP does not have a program called "Scandisk," as this was a
Win9x/Me program. Instead, because WinXP is descended from the WinNT/2K
OS family, it has a command line utility called "Chkdsk," which performs
much better.

Start > Run > Cmd > Chkdsk.exe /? for the correct syntax and
available options.

Alternatively, double-click My Computer > right-click the desired
hard drive > Properties > Tools > Error-checking/Check Now. This will
run Chkdsk, normally on the next reboot.

Unless you are actually experiencing a specific problem related to
your hard drive's file system, there's no real need to run Chkdsk. It's
not intended to be used as part of a regular preventative maintenance
regimen.



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Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I thought NT referred to the more network-compatible versions of Windows
like 1998 and 2000, not ME and XP, which I understood to be personal, not
corporate style versions.

Actually, you've got a couple of things confused. Windows XP is
"Windows NT 5.1." It's descended from WinNT's kernel. And Win98 was
designed as a consumer-grade OS, with no security capabilities at all,
making it singularly unsuitable for use on a corporate LAN.

Snipped ....

By the way, what is the difference between XP Home and Pro?

The WinXP Home and WinXP Pro versions are _identical_ when it comes
to performance, stability, and device driver and software application
compatibility, but are intended to meet different functionality,
networking, security, and ease-of-use needs, in different environments.
The most significant differences are that WinXP Pro allows up to 10
simultaneous inbound network connections while WinXP Home only allows
only 5, WinXP Pro is designed to join a Microsoft domain (a crucial
capability at most universities) while WinXP Home cannot, and only WinXP
Pro supports file encryption and IIS. (Oh, and WinXP Pro usually costs
roughly $100 USD more than WinXP Home.)

Windows XP Comparison Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.asp

Which Edition Is Right for You
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp

Windows XP Home Edition vs. Professional Edition
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.asp

Can you tell me the exact DOS command I should use and if it requires any
intervention? With scandisk, I recall that you often have to close down a
number of programs first, sometimes even needing to run it in safe mode, or
else it does not finish. Are there any such problems with chkdsk?

Start > Run > Cmd > Chkdsk.exe /? for the correct syntax and
available options.

Alternatively, double-click My Computer > right-click the desired
hard drive > Properties > Tools > Error-checking/Check Now. This will
run Chkdsk, normally on the next reboot.


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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH

 

[Dean]

Just when I was thinking that these never-ending threads (talking about 60's
bands and what not) had finally ended, Stan took it to new heights. No
offense Stan, but you really need to get a life!

BTW, the reason I didn't check those boxes is because someone on this board
advised me not to. I was suspicious and re-asked.

On a more substantive note, I notice that, though it was run on a different
computer (which could explain it, though I doubt it, since this computer has
never been previously scanned, er, checked), I was pleased to see that
Chkdsk did not restart ten times and then stop, like scandsk on my other
computer always did, requiring me to use safe mode and/or shut down just the
right programs running in the background. Is it possible that the newer
version of Chkdsk is more, shall we say, fault tolerant?

D

Because the NT version of Scandisk is Chkdisk.

On my computer that's spelled without an "i", chkdsk.


--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"You find yourself amusing, Blackadder."
"I try not to fly in the face of public opinion."[/QUOTE]

 

[Stan Brown]

Just when I was thinking that these never-ending threads (talking about 60's
bands and what not) had finally ended, Stan took it to new heights. No
offense Stan, but you really need to get a life!

No offense, Dean, but bite me.

 

[Dean]

None taken!

No offense, Dean, but bite me.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"You find yourself amusing, Blackadder."
"I try not to fly in the face of public opinion."