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shopping
Yes - i could email the CEO but it is a suprising omission from their range
?
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Rod Speed
shopping said:
Bet he wouldnt answer.
They do tend to be a bit later to market than say Seagate.
Only recently with drives over 250G for example.
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Arno Wagner
Previously shopping said:
No. You can use any empty enclosure and install a Samsung HD in it.
They just choose not to compete in that area. Given the bad products,
e.g. Maxtor offers, I think this is a sensible decision.
Arno
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J. Clarke
shopping said:
Hardly. "External" drives are just "internal" drives in a box. Any moron
can put a drive in a box these days. I suspect that Samsung just doesn't
want to be bothered with the end-user support that such devices entail.
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shopping
i know i can put one in an enclosure myself but i thought it was a suprising
omission from their product range
if this type of product causes lots of end-user support as you say
maybe thats the main factor
omission from their product range
if this type of product causes lots of end-user support as you say
maybe thats the main factor
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J. Clarke
shopping said:
Might also be an issue with establishing a reputation--you can make an
external enclosure big and noisy with good cooling and shock mounting or
cheap and quiet with no cooling or shock mounting--if you do the former you
have trouble competing with the smaller cheaper products without cooling or
shock protection while if you do the latter you get a reputation for making
unreliable drives because the enclosures are cooking them or they're
getting dropped or both.
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Arno Wagner
Previously J. Clarke said:
Your argument sounds very reasonable to me. A loose-loose situation
they are quite smart not to get into in the first place.
Arno
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shopping
your answer has prompted a question from me
in your opinion - who makes a good external drive ?
as in good not cheap tat
in your opinion - who makes a good external drive ?
as in good not cheap tat
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Arno Wagner
Previously shopping said:
as in good not cheap tat
I like the Agrosy 360 enclosures. Cooled well enough
with current Samsung or Seagate drives. Not recommended
with older Maxtors.
Arno
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J. Clarke
shopping said:your answer has prompted a question from me
in your opinion - who makes a good external drive ?
as in good not cheap tat
As a package, haven't found one. Haven't found a purpose-made external
enclosure that I like either.
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Odie Ferrous
J. Clarke said:
Ditto here. Let me know when (if) you find one.
I'm sorely tempted to get into the external drive manufacturing
business...
Odie
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Arno Wagner
Previously Odie Ferrous said:
I think the problem is the price the market is willing to tolerate.
I would do something like this: Use a good cooler like this one here:
http://www.distrelec.com/ishopWebFront/catalog/product.do?id=01&node=aeaaafadaaaz&series=1
and mount the HDD on it with thermal pads for good thermal contact.
Position the cooler up and add a case over the HDD and electronics
below it. Can be sturdy plastic or metal. For vertical stand, add
rubber shock absorbers outside of the case on both sides.
The cooler has 0.75K/W. Add another 0.5 K/W for mounting and so,
then a HDD consuming 20W (generous upper limit for modern drives),
stays at 25C over room temperature under heavy load.
Trouble is, this cooler alone costs about 15 Euro. Add electronics,
external PSU, cable, manufacturing cost and sales overhead and it
ends up costing something like 2-4 times what current enclosures
cost.
Arno