Rewinding Video

[Sunil Daniel]

Hey everyone (and PJ),

I was wondering if it's possible to import a video and
than add an effect in the vein of rewinding it. For
example, if I wanted to show someone flying I would
record them jumping from a high place and then when the
video is rewound, it would look like they're jumping up.
Is there anyway to do a kind of rewind like this in Movie
Maker? The only practical way I can think of is to play
it being rewound on a tv then record it with another
video camera and then import it into mm2. Thanks.

 

[PapaJohn]

See the Editing... Video... Rewinding page of www.papajohn.org

Actually, the 'rewinding' page is 'reverse effect'

My website seems to be having ISP problems now, so check again later if it
doesn't work

PapaJohn

 

[Not just a nutter]

Hey everyone (and PJ),

I was wondering if it's possible to import a video and
than add an effect in the vein of rewinding it. For
example, if I wanted to show someone flying I would
record them jumping from a high place and then when the
video is rewound, it would look like they're jumping up.
Is there anyway to do a kind of rewind like this in Movie
Maker? The only practical way I can think of is to play
it being rewound on a tv then record it with another
video camera and then import it into mm2. Thanks.

Hi Sunil,

I have been playing around with editing individual frames of a movie,
with a little success (and I do mean little)

It seems to me that providing you can access one frame at a time, then
all you need do is write them to a file in the reverse order. So I will have
a go at writing something to do this...I will let you know via this thread
if I am at all successful.

All the best.....

 

[Not just a nutter]

Hi there,

An update. I have had a test run of the program which will write a video
file in reverse. It was not very successfull, I shall find out
tommorrow....but I am nearly there....So far the program itself plays the
video in reverse, but there is something wrong with the process which saves
it back to a new AVI.....I think I know whats wrong...but you can never be
certain with these beasties!!

All the Best.....

 

[Not just a nutter]

Hi there,

An update. I have had a test run of the program which will write a video
file in reverse. It was not very successfull, I shall find out
tommorrow....but I am nearly there....So far the program itself plays the
video in reverse, but there is something wrong with the process which saves
it back to a new AVI.....I think I know whats wrong...but you can never be
certain with these beasties!!

All the Best.....

 

[Sunil Daniel]

Thanks a lot Nutter and PJ. I look forward to see how
your program turns out. Please reply back when you have
an update, I'm sure many other people are interesed in
this. Thanks for your help again PJ, i'll check out your
website.

 

[Just a nutter]

Thanks a lot Nutter and PJ. I look forward to see how
your program turns out. Please reply back when you have
an update, I'm sure many other people are interesed in
this. Thanks for your help again PJ, i'll check out your
website.

Update #2
I have completely scrapped the program. I discovered that I had several bugs
in the software that could not be fixed because of the basically out of date
software I was using. I managed to fix some of the bugs and re-wrote some of
the core components resulting in the ability to play either WMV or type 1
AVI files backwards (in reverse). However, rewriting the component that
saves the video stream in reverse and in a type II format seems, is just too
huge. So I have scrapped the lot.

I have now downloaded the full SDK (Version 9) and have started
reading/learning and have created a basic program for playing any modern
format video file (That bit is real easy) The next stage (playing a stream
in reverse) might be easy..don't know yet...and sending it back to disk in
the required format...well erm.....how long is a piece of string???

It has got under my skin a bit, I don't like being bested, So, WHEN I have
sorted this, I will post a message in the group. Its going to take longer
than expected though...so watch out for my message....

All the best.....

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

I'm rooting for you...

Update #2
I have completely scrapped the program. I discovered that I had several bugs
in the software that could not be fixed because of the basically out of date
software I was using. I managed to fix some of the bugs and re-wrote some of
the core components resulting in the ability to play either WMV or type 1
AVI files backwards (in reverse). However, rewriting the component that
saves the video stream in reverse and in a type II format seems, is just too
huge. So I have scrapped the lot.

I have now downloaded the full SDK (Version 9) and have started
reading/learning and have created a basic program for playing any modern
format video file (That bit is real easy) The next stage (playing a stream
in reverse) might be easy..don't know yet...and sending it back to disk in
the required format...well erm.....how long is a piece of string???

It has got under my skin a bit, I don't like being bested, So, WHEN I have
sorted this, I will post a message in the group. Its going to take longer
than expected though...so watch out for my message....

All the best.....

 

[Sunil Daniel]

Cool. Good luck. let us know when you got something
working. In the meantime I'll just use PJ's suggestion
from his website. I had a question PJ, how long did it
take to make that sample elevator movie clip on your site?

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

Maybe 5 to 10 minutes total. There are a number of steps, but it isn't an
often used process - and until we find an easier way, it works for me.

PapaJohn

 

[Not just a nutter]

I'm rooting for you...

Ha ! I will need it!!!

All the best.....

 

[Sunil Daniel]

I read the instructions on your site, but I can't figure
out how to convert the DV-avi type 1 to a type 2. Is
there a way I can still use mm1 because I can't find it,
or do you know of any conversion utilities that I can
use? I tried searching for some but found none. Thanks.

 

[Sunil Daniel]

Hi, I also can't figure out how to use IfranView. Could
you please tell me how I import the clip and then save it
as .bmps? I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

To get MM1, take a floppy disc to a computer, any one with XP that hasn't
been upgraded to MM2 yet. Copy the executable from the c:\Program
Files\Movie Maker folder - rename it to something like MovieMaker1.exe and
put it into your Movie Maker folder with MM2.

PapaJohn

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

There's a multimedia player plugin for IrfanView, another download from his
website. You need to download and install it, if you haven't.

Once you have the type II DV-AVI clip, you open the IrfanView Multimedia
Player from the IrfanView menu - Options > Start Multimedia Player

Then open the AVI file in the player and use the almost bottom icon on the
left to 'Extract frames'. It'll tell you how many frames are in the clip and
you can select the specific frames that you want as individual BMP files.

 

[Sunil Daniel]

OK, thanks PJ. I'll try it.

Nutter, figure anything out yet? I heard that other
people are trying to make their own transitions but it's
just too hard. good luck.

 

[Not just a nutter]

OK, thanks PJ. I'll try it.

Nutter, figure anything out yet? I heard that other
people are trying to make their own transitions but it's
just too hard. good luck.

I have just realised what the instructions are (actually mean) that are
on Papa-Johns site. I did not realise that the method described involved
sending the bitmaps to the hard drive. That's cheating!!! and I have to say
that it did not occur to me to do it (seems I have taken to many idiot pills
lately)

Anyway....I can do that very easily (write a program to dump bitmaps to
the hard drive)...it now occurs to me that if the program then displayed
those bitmaps as a strip...like the old cine film idea, you could then
select the bitmaps you wanted to use, and even change the order that they
appear, and from there make an AVI file.

I am not going to be able to get back to this for a couple of
days....but I will pursue these thoughts and see what comes out at the other
end (probably something quite disgusting)

All the best.....

P.S., you can see some of my little efforts on the video page of my website
at www.the-kellys.org on some of them you can even hear my dulcet tones

 

[Not just a nutter]

There's a multimedia player plugin for IrfanView, another download from his
website. You need to download and install it, if you haven't.

I found a component that would let me do just about anything I want with
a video....its absolutely fantastic...but, it kept splashing messages all
over the screen reminding me to buy it...in the end I went back to the
website and actually got my piece of plastic ready to pay for same...anyway,
we will not be using that component after all...£699 !!!! and all it is, is
a bare component that you can include in a C++ or Pascal program that you
have to write yourself....Oh Dear !!!

All the best.....