[REQ] looking for a *DOS* based html viewer / compiler

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\(ProteanThread\)

i am looking for a simple or basic *FREEWARE* html viewer or compiler for
*DOS*

help ?
 
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Howard Schwartz

i am looking for a simple or basic *FREEWARE* html viewer or compiler for
*DOS*

help ?

The vi clone, elvis, will view html text and follow links. Since it is an
editor as well, you can also view the source, html tags and edit them as
you please. Of course, it will not render graphics. Please google for
an editor called elvis to find its home page. Elvis is compiled for dos
and for windows, among other OSes.
 
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\(ProteanThread\)

this one ?

http://elvis.the-little-red-haired-girl.org/



Howard Schwartz said:
The vi clone, elvis, will view html text and follow links. Since it is an
editor as well, you can also view the source, html tags and edit them as
you please. Of course, it will not render graphics. Please google for
an editor called elvis to find its home page. Elvis is compiled for dos
and for windows, among other OSes.
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Richard Bonner

\(ProteanThread\) said:
i am looking for a simple or basic *FREEWARE* html viewer

*** There are DOS_Lynx and VIEWHTML, which will view HTML in text
format. Arachne will do it in full graphic mode, but is shareware. There
is also Minuet, but I don't know its status. Links for some of these are
at:
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ak621/DOS/Websites.html

or compiler for *DOS*

*** I can't suggest anything there, but some of the Internet links shown
at the above site may be able to help.

Richard Bonner
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ak621/DOS/
 
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Joe Fischer

i am looking for a simple or basic *FREEWARE* html viewer or compiler for
*DOS*

HTML is not "compiled", it is a simple text file with
Hyper Text Markup Language "tags".

There are html editors, but I have never been able
to learn a windows version, it is easier to hand compose
most of the tags.

What would be very useful is just a text file list of
all the tags, to use for cutting and pasting the more
complex ones.

Running in Win98 DOS Prompt, it is easy to hand
compose html, and then view them with IE.
It helps to use either batch files or a DOS user
interface that will do the invoking and calling in a
quick easy way.

Joe Fischer
 
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Timo Salmi

i am looking for a simple or basic *FREEWARE* html viewer or compiler for
*DOS*

In a sense
128636 Aug 10 2002 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/hypertext/htms0208.zip
htms0208.zip Remove the HTML coding from a file, fw, good, B.Guthrie

Followups redirected to and
only

All the best, Timo
 
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Richard Bonner

Joe said:
There are html editors, but I have never been able
to learn a windows version, it is easier to hand compose
most of the tags.
What would be very useful is just a text file list of
all the tags, to use for cutting and pasting the more
complex ones.

*** There is a DOS html tag setter, but I can't remember its name. I'll
try to locate the article which discusses it. A popup window can be
opened with a range of html tags. One selects the required tag and it is
then inserted into the html document.

Running in Win98 DOS Prompt, it is easy to hand
compose html, and then view them with IE.
It helps to use either batch files or a DOS user
interface that will do the invoking and calling in a
quick easy way.
Joe Fischer

*** I like Arachne for this. Simply hit F4 to invoke the editor of
choice. When you save & exit, Arachne displays the changed html file in
full graphic mode. To make it even better, open Edit in a window and
Arachne in another. Save the EDIT file and then ask Arachne to reload
the page via the `r' key to see the changes in action.

Richard Bonner
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ak621/DOS/
 
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Dr John Stockton

JRS: In article <[email protected]>, dated
Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:38:38, seen in Joe Fischer
Running in Win98 DOS Prompt, it is easy to hand
compose html, and then view them with IE.
It helps to use either batch files or a DOS user
interface that will do the invoking and calling in a
quick easy way.

That seems unnecessary.

Just have an editor window open - DOS or GUI - beside a browser window;
and after a modicum of editing just Save in the Editor and Refresh in
the browser. Few Batch files can be more convenient than two clicks.

But batch files are useful for systematic processing of HTML; I have one
which, on all *.htm newer than its last invocation, runs W3's TIDY as a
tester, then removes trailing whitespace and reports over-long lines.
 
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Dr John Stockton

JRS: In article <[email protected]>, dated Thu, 17 Mar 2005
*** How does it deal with "Pre - /pre" whitespace?

It removes trailing whitespace from all lines.

I've never felt the need for trailing whitespace in PRE - it should
render, of course, and if the effect is needed the last space can be
entered as   or &nbsp;. Those who want trailing whitespace in PRE
must act accordingly.

However, as I have it, the removal of each piece of trailing whitespace
requires confirmation - that helps to train me not to leave any.

It does not remove leading whitespace; that should be preserved whenever
there is an interest in having the source readable.
 
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Eric

(ProteanThread) said:
i am looking for a simple or basic *FREEWARE* html viewer or compiler for
*DOS*

help ?
forgive my ignorance, but what is an "html compiler"?
Thanks
Eric
 
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Eric

Joe said:
What would be very useful is just a text file list of
all the tags, to use for cutting and pasting the more
complex ones.
[snip]

Joe Fischer

Yes indeed, it would be very handy. There's lots of times i want to
do something like align text in a table or something and I just need
to look at a list and see if "Do i do that in the TR tag or the TD tag"?
A list showing, for example, all the various add-on you can use for <TR...
or <TH... or <TD... would be immensely useful.
Eric
 
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Richard Bonner

Eric said:
Joe Fischer wrote:
Yes indeed, it would be very handy. There's lots of times i want to
do something like align text in a table or something and I just need
to look at a list and see if "Do i do that in the TR tag or the TD tag"?

*** I use an undocumented trick of placing data tables inside of "Pre"
tags. Then I align the tags & accompanying text so that text browsers will
show the table in aligned columns. Here's an example:

http://www.CEC.chebucto.org/Co-Stats.html

View the above in both graphic and text browsers to see how it works.
Look at the source code, too. Non-table able text browsers ignore the
"Table" tags and display the text in aligned columns, while graphic
browsers will use the "Table" tags and display the table normally.

The only problems are with Netscape and its derivatives. Some older
versions leave a blank space above the table equal to the table's size,
while others display the text in the table in mono-spaced font. The latter
is not a big problem because they are data tables and I find the
mono-spaced font to be fitting.

A list showing, for example, all the various add-on you can use for <TR...
or <TH... or <TD... would be immensely useful.
Eric

*** There are DOS text editors which can pop up a list of HTML tags from
which one may select the one to insert at the cursor. Unfortunately, I
can't think of any right off hand. As well, there are many which will
highlight or colour HTML tags already in a document for easy spotting of
those tags within regular text. BOXER, and I believe BINGO can do that.

Richard Bonner
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ak621/DOS/
 
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Frank Bohan

Richard Bonner said:
*** I use an undocumented trick of placing data tables inside of "Pre"
tags. Then I align the tags & accompanying text so that text browsers will
show the table in aligned columns. Here's an example:

http://www.CEC.chebucto.org/Co-Stats.html

View the above in both graphic and text browsers to see how it works.
Look at the source code, too. Non-table able text browsers ignore the
"Table" tags and display the text in aligned columns, while graphic
browsers will use the "Table" tags and display the table normally.

The only problems are with Netscape and its derivatives. Some older
versions leave a blank space above the table equal to the table's size,
while others display the text in the table in mono-spaced font. The latter
is not a big problem because they are data tables and I find the
mono-spaced font to be fitting.

Have a look at Barebones:

http://werbach.com/barebones/

For a text listing of tags see:

http://werbach.com/barebones/barebones.txt

or download the zipfile.

===

Frank Bohan
¶ The average person thinks he isn't.
 
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Dr John Stockton

JRS: In article <[email protected]>, dated Fri, 15 Apr
There's lots of times i want to
do something like align text in a table or something and I just need
to look at a list and see if "Do i do that in the TR tag or the TD tag"?
A list showing, for example, all the various add-on you can use for <TR...
or <TH... or <TD... would be immensely useful.

I have written :-
I like V3.0 of the HTML Reference Library by Stephen Le Hunte -
an excellent Windows help file with quick reference
- http://www.htmlib.com/ leads to V4.0, which I have yet to try.
Or see at ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/doc/htmlib30.zip Garbo.

It has what you ask for as a Win GUI subset.
 
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Howard Schwartz

i am looking for a simple or basic *FREEWARE* html viewer or compiler for
*DOS*

At the risk of violating your dos principle: offbyone, or Ob1 is a freeware
viewer for html code version 3x. It is extremely small and fast, and is
used my many to quickly preview html files, even with pictures. It can
be used as a command line in a batch file.

I have found that it renders things better than programs like
htmlstrip that remove html tags, or ones like elvis that display
text only. This one will show bold, underline, various sizes and
fonts, etc.
 

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