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gjbnh1701
YES you can, BUT it is a ghosted image of what you Have!!!!! If you
have a scewed up system, you'll have a SCREWED up BACKUP!!!
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YES you can, BUT it is a ghosted image of what you Have!!!!! If you
have a scewed up system, you'll have a SCREWED up BACKUP!!!
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uvbogden
Like many of us, you are obviously frustrated by the lack of support from
MSFT and computer vendors. Where system repair functions are dependant on
the install DVD, system software should not be sold without the install DVD.
When I ordered my Dell computer, I ordered and received the Vista install DVD
from Dell with the computer. If neither your vendor nor MSFT will send you a
Vista DVD, take a look at Repair Vista Options.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/101393-repair-vista-options-preferred-sequence.html
If running System File Checker finds system files that are corrupt and
cannot be repaired, ordinarily I would recommend you replace them with good
system files from your Vista DVD. Since you have a valid license, if you
respond with the specific files that are corrupt (find these in CBS.log) and
your email address, I will send you copies in a zip file from my OS.
MSFT and computer vendors. Where system repair functions are dependant on
the install DVD, system software should not be sold without the install DVD.
When I ordered my Dell computer, I ordered and received the Vista install DVD
from Dell with the computer. If neither your vendor nor MSFT will send you a
Vista DVD, take a look at Repair Vista Options.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/101393-repair-vista-options-preferred-sequence.html
If running System File Checker finds system files that are corrupt and
cannot be repaired, ordinarily I would recommend you replace them with good
system files from your Vista DVD. Since you have a valid license, if you
respond with the specific files that are corrupt (find these in CBS.log) and
your email address, I will send you copies in a zip file from my OS.
G
gjbnh
If you have an OEMinstalllike mine(Acer), you can make restore CDs/DVDs.
Exactly what system do you have?
The Acer backup Program makes a ghosted backup of your currnet system.
If your system is f**ked then the backup is f**ked.
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gjbnh
Like many of us, you are obviously frustrated by the lack of support from
MSFT and computer vendors. Where systemrepairfunctions are dependant on
theinstallDVD, system software should not be sold without theinstallDVD.
When I ordered my Dell computer, I ordered and received the VistainstallDVD
from Dell with the computer. If neither your vendor nor MSFT will send you a
Vista DVD, take a look atRepairVista Options.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/101393-repair-vista-options-preferr...
If running System File Checker finds system files that are corrupt and
cannot be repaired, ordinarily I would recommend you replace them with good
system files from your Vista DVD. Since you have a valid license, if you
respond with the specific files that are corrupt (find these in CBS.log) and
your email address, I will send you copies in a zip file from my OS.
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thanks for you offer to send the corrupted files in a zip. Howver when
I run SFC, it shows only some sidebar files as being corrupt. My
impression is that is not the problem: some registry keys are messed
up, and an XP-restore would possibly fix them. Because of this your
offer is kind, but unneccasary. It appears that there is NO WAY to do
a vista repair install, which I have done several times in XP with an
XP-repair install. This is like I said eailer, having to rebuild the
car to fix a flat tire. The MS people who desinged this should be
hunted down and SHOT!! What is really said is MS paid these people
BIG BUCKS to design the OS. What kind of retards are they to even have
hired these people???????
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DarkSentinel
The Acer backup Program makes a ghosted backup of your currnet system.
If your system is f**ked then the backup is f**ked.
Apparently you didn't bother to check your system out thoroughly before
using it. The Empowering Technology app allows more than that. What you
SHOULD have done is made the system restore disks, the driver/application
disk, then started making back-up points. This is why the application is
there. Acer is one of those OEM's that do NOT provide the Vista Media. They
WILL send you the factory restore media for a fee.
If you did not use the eRecovery application as you should have, you have
one recourse. Go out and buy the retail media, and try the repair in that
fashion. Otherwise you are going to have to wipe it back to square one, and
go from there.
This is a good example for those of us with OEM installs, and for that
matter anyone, the importance of backing your system up regularly. The price
of DVD media is such that it is feasible to make back ups of everything (I
caught a great sale at Office Depot. Spindles of 50 DVD+R for $9.99), and/or
using hard drives to do so. My Acer in this instance uses the D: partition
of my 400GB SATA for the BU points. With the eRecovery tool that ships with
it, you have the choice of a full, or can set fast points when there are xx
many MB of change from the full.
This again reminds me of what I used to ask my technicians...
"Why is it you always have time to go back and do it again, but you never
have time to do it right the first time?"
Oh and to the poster, don't get in a huff and get an attitude with me or
anyone else because of something YOU failed to do. The first thing I did
when I got my system was do everything I said that should have been done.
G
gjbnh
Apparently you didn't bother to check your system out thoroughly before
using it. The Empowering Technology app allows more than that. What you
SHOULD have done is made the system restore disks, the driver/application
disk, then started making back-up points. This is why the application is
there. Acer is one of those OEM's that do NOT provide theVistaMedia. They
WILL send you the factory restore media for a fee.
If you did not use the eRecovery application as you should have, you have
one recourse. Go out and buy the retail media, and try therepairin that
fashion. Otherwise you are going to have to wipe it back to square one, and
go from there.
This is a good example for those of us with OEM installs, and for that
matter anyone, the importance of backing your system up regularly. The price
of DVD media is such that it is feasible to make back ups of everything (I
caught a great sale at Office Depot. Spindles of 50 DVD+R for $9.99), and/or
using hard drives to do so. My Acer in this instance uses the D: partition
of my 400GB SATA for the BU points. With the eRecovery tool that ships with
it, you have the choice of a full, or can set fast points when there are xx
many MB of change from the full.
This again reminds me of what I used to ask my technicians...
"Why is it you always have time to go back and do it again, but you never
have time to do it right the first time?"
Oh and to the poster, don't get in a huff and get an attitude with me or
anyone else because of something YOU failed to do. The first thing I did
when I got my system was do everything I said that should have been done.
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Ok, I got the big purple f*cker, Sponge Bob is next!!http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel
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The Acer backup creates a ghost image of the factory install
(according to Acer techincal) It is identical to the DVD which they
will ship if you call and ask (took me 3 MONTHS to get them to do
that). The ghosted image INCLUDES all of the ACER CRAP software, and a
least one special driver for wi-fi. IT IS NOT a plain vanilla install.
MS told me they thought that the DVD ghosted image ACER shipped,
shipped with a rootkit that was undetected.
AS far as backing up the install when I first got the computer,
WHY?? It had a ghosted image on the hard drive, AND I ghosted the
parttion to both a DVD and and exrnal USB drive. But that wouldn't
help if as MS said the ghosted image was f**ked up from the factory.
AGIAN a regular Vista install disk would have solved this. However
even then, it wouldn't be what is needed!!(MS fault) There is NO
install-repair that will fix regisrty problems. ( there does appear to
be an UPGRADE-install which MAY fix this type of problems.)
D
DarkSentinel
The Acer backup creates a ghost image of the factory install
(according to Acer techincal) It is identical to the DVD which they
will ship if you call and ask (took me 3 MONTHS to get them to do
that). The ghosted image INCLUDES all of the ACER CRAP software, and a
least one special driver for wi-fi. IT IS NOT a plain vanilla install.
MS told me they thought that the DVD ghosted image ACER shipped,
shipped with a rootkit that was undetected.
AS far as backing up the install when I first got the computer,
WHY?? It had a ghosted image on the hard drive, AND I ghosted the
parttion to both a DVD and and exrnal USB drive. But that wouldn't
help if as MS said the ghosted image was f**ked up from the factory.
AGIAN a regular Vista install disk would have solved this. However
even then, it wouldn't be what is needed!!(MS fault) There is NO
install-repair that will fix regisrty problems. ( there does appear to
be an UPGRADE-install which MAY fix this type of problems.)
OEM installs are rarely "plain vanilla" installs. Each MFR adds software
particular to their systems. HP/Compaq does it. My fiancé's Compaq XP box
does. My Acer does. Pretty much if you ask anyone that has done an OEM
purchase, they will tell you the same thing. They all add their own little
"touches" while passing on a lower cost to the consumer as a caveat to not
having to pay full price for the OS. This is the price of NOT building your
own.
As for making a back-up after getting things the way you want it initially
when you get it, you are proof as to WHY it should be done. When I got my
Acer, I burned the Factory Restore Disks, along with the Driver &
Application disk. I then did a full back up, and have it set to do Fast back
ups every 300MB of change. This way I can go back to period before whatever
problems pop up. And what rootkit are you and MS referring to? I have found
no such thing on my system.
Bottom line here, is that you should not be complaining because this is not
a "plain vanilla" install. You get what you pay for. This is the price of
buying an OEM system. Caveat Emptor - Let the buyer beware. Research any
purchase of this type BEFORE spending the money so you can deal with any
perceived shortcomings it may have. I did, and knew what I was getting
before I got it, and made appropriate allowances for that.
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gjbnh
OEM installs are rarely "plain vanilla" installs. Each MFR adds software
particular to their systems. HP/Compaq does it. My fiancé's Compaq XP box
does. My Acer does. Pretty much if you ask anyone that has done an OEM
purchase, they will tell you the same thing. They all add their own little
"touches" while passing on a lower cost to the consumer as a caveat to not
having to pay full price for the OS. This is the price of NOT building your
own.
As for making a back-up after getting things the way you want it initially
when you get it, you are proof as to WHY it should be done. When I got my
Acer, I burned the Factory Restore Disks, along with the Driver &
Application disk. I then did a full back up, and have it set to do Fast back
ups every 300MB of change. This way I can go back to period before whatever
problems pop up. And what rootkit are you and MS referring to? I have found
no such thing on my system.
Bottom line here, is that you should not be complaining because this is not
a "plain vanilla" install. You get what you pay for. This is the price of
buying an OEM system. Caveat Emptor - Let the buyer beware. Research any
purchase of this type BEFORE spending the money so you can deal with any
perceived shortcomings it may have. I did, and knew what I was getting
before I got it, and made appropriate allowances for that.
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Ok, I got the big purple f*cker, Sponge Bob is next!!http://www.lockergnome.com/darksentinel
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If this was a desktop, I would have built it; I've had over 30 years
of that sort of thing: 5 OSes BESIDES all versions of Windoze. (can
YOU say not a novice???)
I didn't say YOU had a rootkit. I said I did, after a fresh install.
After appying Vista UPDATEs, I ran SFC. There where errors, and I had
stability issues and well as some craches. I had MS do 3 remote
accesses to fix it. Their feeling was a factory re-install had a
rootkit in it.
And I was force into a new laptop: Mine started having failing USB
ports, so I was forced into a new laptop. If, when I bought it,
vendors where again offering XP, that would have been the way I went
given what I heard and read about VISTA. But I was stuck with VISTA.
Reasearch wasn't the problem, lack of choice was.
Lesson learned: Never trust ACER or MS again. Never pay
money unless your given a free trail, and apply that lesson to
hardware to.
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ABi
Hi, I do have problems with Vista, not at startup but after a wile. The tool
bar at the bottom gets crazy. I would like to run a system repair without
loosing my info and setups. I have a DELL, with a Vista bundled in a
different partition, as well as a Reinstalation CD. When running the cd,
there is no choice for repair, only reinstall or upgrade. When running from
the other partition, I can repair startup only without loosing the info. The
other alternatives will clean my system.
Any suggestion to repair Vista Home Premium?
I already checked, >> no Virus and no Spyware, no Startup problems, - Thanks
bar at the bottom gets crazy. I would like to run a system repair without
loosing my info and setups. I have a DELL, with a Vista bundled in a
different partition, as well as a Reinstalation CD. When running the cd,
there is no choice for repair, only reinstall or upgrade. When running from
the other partition, I can repair startup only without loosing the info. The
other alternatives will clean my system.
Any suggestion to repair Vista Home Premium?
I already checked, >> no Virus and no Spyware, no Startup problems, - Thanks
A
Alex T. ~MVP Windows Shell/User~
There is no repair function in Vista anymore. Unless you have restore
points and revert back to a previous time in your Windows install. Hit F8
during startup and see if any restore points were created to be used. Other
than that the only option you have is to restore the factory settings via
the Recovery CD/partition that you have.
points and revert back to a previous time in your Windows install. Hit F8
during startup and see if any restore points were created to be used. Other
than that the only option you have is to restore the factory settings via
the Recovery CD/partition that you have.
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gjbnh
Hi, I do have problems with Vista, not at startup but after a wile. The tool
bar at the bottom gets crazy. I would like to run a system repair without
loosing my info and setups. I have a DELL, with a Vista bundled in a
different partition, as well as a Reinstalation CD. When running the cd,
there is no choice for repair, only reinstall or upgrade. When running from
the other partition, I can repair startup only without loosing the info. The
other alternatives will clean my system.
Any suggestion to repair Vista Home Premium?
I already checked, >> no Virus and no Spyware, no Startup problems, - Thanks
From what I have learned in over 3 months is that there is no way to
repair other than choosing a restore point, or re formating and
restoring from a ghosted image. MS never thought about a repair
install. Your best bet is to export like your moving to another
computer, and do a whole system restore using Dell's restoration disk.
Hopefully that will solve the problem. It probably means that you will
loose some data, but not all.
M
MICHAEL
From what I have learned in over 3 months is that there is no way to
repair other than choosing a restore point, or re formating and
restoring from a ghosted image. MS never thought about a repair
install. Your best bet is to export like your moving to another
computer, and do a whole system restore using Dell's restoration disk.
Hopefully that will solve the problem. It probably means that you will
loose some data, but not all.
Repair install is an option, it just has to be done a different
way.... unofficial way. It works, at least it's worked once for me.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html
How To Perform a Repair Installation For Vista
-Michael