I just find it ironic that a lot the MVPs (except Carey Frisch, of
course; he's sold on One Care and a "Vista Enthusiast) are saying
that registry cleaners are snake oil when Microsoft has one of their
own.
Daave said:Although I understand what you're saying, upon closer consideration,
there is no irony IMO. There is a big difference between the Microsoft
corporation (which has its profit motive and markets its products
accordingly) and users of Microsoft products (who do not share this
motive and are thus more independent). It's sort of like when citizens
of a nation disagree with their government's actions.
Alias said:More like subjects that disagree with the monarchy. There aren't any
elections in Redmond. It also confirms my contention that Microsoft
not only doesn't care about their paying customers but holds them in
total disdain.
Daave said:A bit hyperbolic,
but I would agree that Microsoft cares more about
their profits than their customers.
But that's how all corporations
operate.
The MVPs care more about Microsoft's customers than Microsoft's
profits, don't you agree?
Alias said:More like understated.
They consider each and every customer to be a thief until they prove
otherwise. That's disdain towards their customers, not "caring more
about profits".
As soon as a corporation starts holding their paying customers with
disdain, it is the beginning of the end for them. Without paying
customers, no profit, no shareholders, no corporation.
Depends on the MVP. Some do, some don't.
Alias said:More like subjects that disagree with the monarchy. There aren't any
elections in Redmond. It also confirms my contention that Microsoft
not only doesn't care about their paying customers but holds them in
total disdain.
It is SO sad when someone insists on being so totally stupid and especially
so consistently wrong in public.
It is SO sad when someone insists on being so totally stupid and
especially
so consistently wrong in public.
Daave said:The two notions are not mutually exclusive. The profit motive is what
drives their disdain. Like it or not, Microsoft is simply playing by the
rules. You might not like the rules (which may favor oligopoly and
monopoly), and neither do I. The answer lies in changing the rules.
Criticizing Microsoft, even if it is justified, doesn't change the
situation. This means that people who live in representative democracies
need to elect more people to government who care about the issues you
and I care about. It means that elected officials who are usually also
running for re-election and rely on campaign donations from companies
like Microsoft exercise more independence. Will we see this behavior in
our lifetimes? I don't know. But the real problem is the political
economic system. It's not too different from the sad state of access to
health care and health care insurance in the United States. The problem
has already been diagnosed. A solution has been proposed (Single Payer
health insurance). Of course the mainstream media haven't been including
this idea in any debates (not that there are that many to begin with) on
this issue -- probably because of where they get a lot of their
advertising dollars. Again, as upsetting and distasteful it is to see
these corporations make their profits and manipulate the media to
continue to do so, the problem lies more in the system that allows them
to do so in the first place.
And we are nowhere near that tipping point. Lots of people will put up
with what they see as minor inconveniences (WPA, WGA, etc.). For the
time being, though, the amount of perceived disdain is nowhere near as
high as your perception, so profits will continue, I am sure. I suppose
you're hoping to stir up enough discontent so that a butterfly effect
will take place eventually culminating in real change (assuming there is
a significant number of others who will also complain and convince
others to come around to their way of thinking). That is your right, and
good luck. I won't disagree. (But I won't hold my breath, either.)
HeyBub said:There are elections on behalf of Redmond. I vote every year on the board of
directors. Several million votes are cast, actually.
As for products, people vote with their wallets.
If it's a good product, people buy it. If it's an absolutely horrid product,
people don't buy it (or use it in the case of Linux).
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