Registry cleaner

[Bruce Chambers]

The old registry entries remains of various old programs, not MS. Burt there
is also traces of ms operating system also: for example, traces of earlier
network configuration, share names, etc - this is traces of old, not
existing configuration. This entries can cause errors, etc

Oh? How's that? Please provide precise technical explanations for
this phenomenon.

Good operating system must be designed to foresee this issues, that possible
can be used incorrectly written programs, which leave entries, etc, and have
built-in tool, than can clean this traces easily. But not the microsoft
platform That's why its bad

And we all wait with bated breath for the new, flawless operating
system that you claim to know how to develop. What will it be called?
When will the beta program start? Oh, wait, it'll be flawless, so
they'll be no need for a beta program will there?



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[-Alias-]

Oh? How's that? Please provide precise technical explanations for
this phenomenon.




And we all wait with bated breath for the new, flawless operating
system that you claim to know how to develop. What will it be called?
When will the beta program start? Oh, wait, it'll be flawless, so
they'll be no need for a beta program will there?

I've been using SystemSuite's registry fixer since 1999 to clean my
registry out of useless entries and have never, ever, had a problem when
I nuke every entry that is coded green after SystemSuite scans the
registry. I've been doing this on four computers of my own and countless
ones of other people's computers.

So, I would say there are registry cleaners and there are registry
cleaners. Some are good; some are not.

And, yes, if I use it after reinstalling Windows, SP2, Office and
numerous other programs, the computer boots demonstrably faster and runs
much smoother.

Alias

 

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Oh? How's that? Please provide precise technical
explanations for
this phenomenon.

I did, in my reply to the OP and a reply to another responder

And we all wait with bated breath for the new, flawless
operating
system that you claim to know how to develop. What will it be
called? When will the beta program start? Oh, wait, it'll be
flawless, so they'll be no need for a beta program will there?

Well, we already know it will /not/ be Vista, at least not until
2008 at the earliest after all the early adopters beta test it in a
production work environment on their Visa cards and MS fixes what
they call up and complain about. And, it is still doubtful in my
mind that Bill the Gates can deliver even this time next year.

 

[mistral]

Actually, yes. The expression "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is
never more true than when it comes to the Windows registry, where a
seemingly insignificant mistake can render the OS unbootable.





Yes, that is sometimes the case. So what? These orphaned entries
almost never cause any problems, and the rare one that does can easily
be surgically excised manually without resorting to the "chainsaw"
technique of the automated registry "cleaner."



Sure, why not? Especially as their presence does no harm, and the act
of trying to clean them out could very easily render the computer unusable?


Only to those who cannot or will not learn to properly use and maintain
their computers. But feel free to develop your own *perfect* software
products; then you'll be in a better position to cast aspersions.



Oh my, say it isn't so! A business that seeks to make money? Who ever
heard of such a thing? Sheesh! Have you not heard of capitalism? Did
you think a business was a charitable institution? However did you
manage to live long enough to learn to read and write (barely), and yet
remain so naive and utterly unfamiliar with reality?


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrum

Russell


Yes, there is a sense to clean old registry entries manually. However, i
need be completely sure that specific entry can be removed safely.
As to feature to have built-in registry cleaner, to make system
self-cleaning: there are no someting extra difficult, can be just one of
system feature.
Also, i am far from thinking that microsoft is charitable institution, as
you say.. But i am sure 100% that we need pay only for flaweless product,
which need works without adding numerous "updates", "fixes" and so on, day
by day. There is a good reason why many peoples use ms operating system
for free.. Until it will work flawelessly, we do not need pay for..

mistral

 

[Guest]

I found that my Registry contains many entries related to various old
programs that are not exist anymore in my PC.
So I want to clean this old registry entries. However the best practice is
to do this manually. But all this need be done extremelly accurately and
exactly. Also, some programs may leave their entries in more than one
registry folder, so its not so easy to find it all. I need advice for good
utility (freeware) which will do this job, to find old registry entries more
easy, and which will not remove registry keys in automatic mode, i.e. only
user will to decide to remove specific registry entry or not.

mistral

Hello,
You have received all the yeas and nays and have good backup ability.
Two free registry cleaners:
1. RegSeeker v1.45 by Hoverdesk.net
2. JV16PowerTools v1.3, This is the last free one, you need to use a search
engine to locate sites that allow download of this item.
take care.
beamish.

 

[antioch]

Hi Hemi
If you must obfuscate these messages please do it properly - you have
attributed remarks that I did not make.
sorry I did fall asleep - what did you expect.
You give the impression that you are connected with or have something to do
with Chrysler cars - the 180 was a Chrysler.
Rgds
Antioch

 

[antioch]

Heavily clipped - hope you don't mind Bruce

And we all wait with bated breath for the new, flawless operating system
that you claim to know how to develop. What will it be called? > When
will the beta program start? Oh, wait, it'll be flawless, so they'll be
no need for a beta program will there?

Bruce,
Its here - its coming - very shortly - the OS everyone has waited for - you
must have heard of it - its called - wait for it - LONGHORN!!!!!!!

Antioch

 

[antioch]

Hi Pop
Replies intertwined/spliced whatever

In

No, he asked for a recommendation for a registry cleaner, not a consensus
on whether it should be done or not.

You engaged finger before brain - OP asked for - Quote;
I need advice for good utility (freeware) which will do this job, to find
old registry entries more...........No he did not ask for a recommendation
for a registry cleaner. Advice he asked for and that's what he got.
But then the OP did not reply to say that his question was not answered -
one can only assume he was happy/satisfied with what he had read so far.
Whether or not you are is immaterial.

No, you have now taken the thread off topic, and didn't label it as such
either.
Your desire to chastise has overtaken your desire to help.

No I have not taken the thread off topic - I asked for clarification from
the OP as they had introduced additional matters.
Your desire to be pedantic has taken matters further off topic - to which I
have no further interest - unless of course YOU might have some advice to
give the OP that is not off topic?????
Your contribution so far is NIL.
Rgds
Antioch

 

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Hi Hemi
If you must obfuscate these messages please do it properly -
you have attributed remarks that I did not make.
sorry I did fall asleep - what did you expect.
You give the impression that you are connected with or have
something to do with Chrysler cars - the 180 was a Chrysler.
Rgds
Antioch

I obfuscated nothing, you're paranoid. I look at the >>>>, >>>
and >> from previous comments, replies, replies to replies, etc.,
look at the last one, that I thought correctly or incorrectly was
yours with only one >, and replied accordingly to you. If I mis-
attributed something to you, that's how it goes on Usenet.

I don't give the impression I have something to do with Chrysler
cars, I did - for 33 years. I started as a product engineer in
April, 1969 the day after I graduated from engineering school,
and retired at the end of 2002 as a Senior Manager. Look at my
sig carefully, note what it says that "CEMA" means; go to the
link that I have in my sig, and see if you can get into the
"Members" section. I can, and you cannot. When I joined this
club, I gave them my super secret handshake DCID (DaimlerChrysler
ID number), which replaced SSAN when privacy laws took
effect.CEMA has a feed to DCX's personnel DB and can verify the
DCID. If it is valid, you can join, if it bounces, you don't.

Now, I know a great deal about Chrysler history - not everything,
but a great deal - and still do not know what the hell a "180"
is, unless it is an MMC rice burner badged as a Dodge or Plymouth
or it is some export vehicle if you live outside the USA. I did a
search of my entire 30,000 car picture collection for "Chrysler
180" and came up zilch. So why not park your ego at the door and
just treat me with some common decency and respect, I've done the
same for you even though you've attacked me through this entire
thread for my views on software.

 

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I've been using SystemSuite's registry fixer since 1999 to
clean my registry out of useless entries and have never, ever,
had a problem when I nuke every entry that is coded green
after SystemSuite scans the registry. I've been doing this on
four computers of my own and countless ones of other people's
computers.

Me, neither, but then, I take extremen precautions should Murphy
be hiding in the bushes.

So, I would say there are registry cleaners and there are
registry cleaners. Some are good; some are not.

Definitely true.

And, yes, if I use it after reinstalling Windows, SP2, Office
and numerous other programs, the computer boots demonstrably
faster and runs much smoother.

I clean my Registry with JV16 Powertools about once a month,
using a similar scheme which shows the orphans, keys/values that
are obsolete or point to something in error, what have you, and
delete them. I haven't noticed more than maybe a few percentage
points faster boots nor anything I can directly attribute to
lesser memory use or quicker CPU-intensive execution running Win
XP Pro SP2 with 4 gig or RAM. That isn't a dispute of what you
say, I just don't see an equal benefit. Wish I did. What I /do/
see is increased stability in Windows itself and less crashes or
strange behavior in some of my apps from time-to-time. The biggie
changes I make I've already talked about, where I'm search for
and deleting entries that I believe got left behind after an
uninstall.

 

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[sni]

Antioch

Love the double smiley faces, fitting for an O/W with that codename
and its production handle, albeit over a year late.

 

[antioch]

Hello Hemi
Sorry to rub you up the wrong way - the last thing I want to do is turn this
into a Leythos/Kurtrail/Alias type thread ;-)
But I think you jumped on me first - but who cares.
The 180 - for your edification try the below link - I think you may find
this site of interest - there will certainly be some pictures to add to your
vast collection.

http://www.rootes-chrysler.co.uk/car-development/dev-180.html

Remember - Google can be your friend

Rgds
Antioch

 

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Hello Hemi
Sorry to rub you up the wrong way - the last thing I want to
do is turn this into a Leythos/Kurtrail/Alias type thread ;-)
But I think you jumped on me first - but who cares.
The 180 - for your edification try the below link - I think
you may find this site of interest - there will certainly be
some pictures to add to your vast collection.

OK, we're both yelling at each other for no good reason, so lets
just back down and stay friends.

http://www.rootes-chrysler.co.uk/car-development/dev-180.html

Remember - Google can be your friend

I'm well aware of that. This car, now that I look at your link,
is what I suspected. It is a Rootes car badged as a Chrysler for
the European market only. DaimlerChrysler AG is an international
company, as is The Chrysler Group that I was a part of, the
former Chrysler Corporation prior to the "merger of equals in
November, 1998. For example Chrysler has been trying for decades
to get Europeans to understand the Dodge brand, so you have
strange things like Dodge Magnums with a Chrysler 300C grille and
fascia on them, or Chrysler Vipers. Or, even Chrysler vs. Dodge
Intrepids in Canada, which has its roots (no pun intended to the
British company Chrysler had an interest in during the Lynn
Townsend days of the 1960s) in English common law. And, your link
supports this by dating the Chrysler 180 to 196x/197x.

Incidently, I have relatively few European brand car pictures in
my collection, and not this one. But, I have exactly zero rice
burners. I respect those people as formidible competitors, but
don't like the sombitches too much.

 

[antioch]

Today, antioch made these interesting comments ...

Clipped - severely

I'm well aware of that. This car, now that I look at your link,
is what I suspected. It is a Rootes car badged as a Chrysler for
the European market only. DaimlerChrysler AG is an international
company, as is The Chrysler Group that I was a part of, the
former Chrysler Corporation prior to the "merger of equals in
November, 1998. For example Chrysler has been trying for decades
to get Europeans to understand the Dodge brand, so you have
strange things like Dodge Magnums with a Chrysler 300C grille and
fascia on them, or Chrysler Vipers. Or, even Chrysler vs. Dodge
Intrepids in Canada, which has its roots (no pun intended to the
British company Chrysler had an interest in during the Lynn
Townsend days of the 1960s) in English common law. And, your link
supports this by dating the Chrysler 180 to 196x/197x.

Incidently, I have relatively few European brand car pictures in
my collection, and not this one. But, I have exactly zero rice
burners. I respect those people as formidible competitors, but
don't like the sombitches too much.

Glad I was able to add to your picture gallery - the whole saga of Chrysler
in Europe I believe ended with the selling off for £1 or was it a penny?
I cannot remember now but I dont think General Motors had much good fortune
over here either. Lets face it, the UK car industry was a mess - the unions
had too much control and car companies put little back into modernising
their plants.
Europe was not much better.
But I enjoyed my 180 - it travelled across France and Spain four times -
three times through the Pyrenees and once the Alps.
But living near the coast did for it and the salty air made it go rusty.
I then bought Japanese and got 30 years of trouble free motoring.
None got rust problems either?
Rgds
Antioch

 

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Me, neither, but then, I take extremen precautions should Murphy
be hiding in the bushes.

SystemSuite has a feature where you can make a floppy in case removal of
registry causes the computer to become unbootable. You can use it to
restore your registry to what it was before SystemSuite removed the entry.

Definitely true.

I clean my Registry with JV16 Powertools about once a month,
using a similar scheme which shows the orphans, keys/values that
are obsolete or point to something in error, what have you, and
delete them. I haven't noticed more than maybe a few percentage
points faster boots nor anything I can directly attribute to
lesser memory use or quicker CPU-intensive execution running Win
XP Pro SP2 with 4 gig or RAM. That isn't a dispute of what you
say, I just don't see an equal benefit. Wish I did. What I /do/
see is increased stability in Windows itself and less crashes or
strange behavior in some of my apps from time-to-time. The biggie
changes I make I've already talked about, where I'm search for
and deleting entries that I believe got left behind after an
uninstall.

I only notice a big improvement after uninstalling or installing
something large like Office, XP or SP2. I also notice more stability
like you do.

Alias

 

[Plato]

I found that my Registry contains many entries related to various old
programs that are not exist anymore in my PC.
So I want to clean this old registry entries. However the best practice is
to do this manually. But all this need be done extremelly accurately and
exactly. Also, some programs may leave their entries in more than one
registry folder, so its not so easy to find it all. I need advice for good
utility (freeware) which will do this job, to find old registry entries more
easy, and which will not remove registry keys in automatic mode, i.e. only
user will to decide to remove specific registry entry or not.

http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/files/EClea2_0.exe

 

[RA]

Yes, there is a sense to clean old registry entries manually.
However, i need be completely sure that specific entry can be removed
safely.
As to feature to have built-in registry cleaner, to make system
self-cleaning: there are no someting extra difficult, can be just one
of system feature.
Also, i am far from thinking that microsoft is charitable
institution, as you say.. But i am sure 100% that we need pay only
for flaweless product, which need works without adding numerous
"updates", "fixes" and so on, day by day. There is a good reason
why many peoples use ms operating system for free.. Until it will
work flawelessly, we do not need pay for..

mistral

What, in your world, works flawlessly? How can you know something works
flawlessly until you have used it? If you will only pay for a flawless
product, do you steal everything you own and then pay for it later when you
determine that it is flawless?
Is the work you do flawless? Do you work for free until someone determines
that your work is flawless?

 

[RA]

Today, Kelly made these interesting comments ...

Yes, more specifically, I currently have a company lease 2006
Jeep Liberty and a dealer lease 2006 Dodge Charger HEMI R/T. Do
you have a specific question about Chrysler products, current,
past or future or some issues either pro or con wrt to my
comments about Registry cleaners?

You can see from my sig that I must be either an active employee
of the Chrysler Group division of DaimlerChrysler AG or a
retiree; I am the latter. I normally post car pictures to
alt.binaries.pictures.autos and other car-picture NGs. These
places often engender discussions about cars in general, American
vs. foreign-made, and the specifics of what historically happened
at Ford, GM, Chrysler, and American Motors, and what is happening
today.

There are a wide variety of so-called "insider knowledge" things
I can and do talk about legally from Chrysler's history, because
they are no longer confidential. Ditto for today and some public
knowledge of the future. As a retiree, I no longer have access to
future model confidential information, but couldn't talk about
that if even if I did, any more than you can talk about anything-
M$ that is part of the NDA you signed when becoming an MVP.
However, I do keep my hand in the game, so I can provide
information to you directly or find out.

Now, seeing the erstatz smiley face after your comment, and my
well-known disdain for the bias of MVPs, I would actually assume
you're making a smart-ass crack, so it would be a good idea for
you to clarify your comment.

Get over yourself. Kelly uses that smiley always, not just for you. Why
would a simple question be a smart-ass crack? You are not nearly as well
known as Kelly is and I can't say I have ever seen a bias in any of her
replies. She is one of the most helpful and knowledgable people here and
everyone who has spent any amount of time here over the years respects her
skills.

 

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Today, RA made these interesting comments ...
She phrased it that way, knowing I am an alleged Chrysler bigot and
she has refused to clarify her comments, which confirm my
suspicion. And, the MVPs /are/ biased whether you personally want
to believe that or not and whether you like it or not; just read
what they say, how they say it, what they recommend, and the
stratight-down-the-company-line they always take.

As to the, again, ersatz, smiley face, someone with a sig like I
have is /highly/ likely to drive a Chrysler product of some kind,
wouldn't you think?

 

[RA]

Today, RA made these interesting comments ...

She phrased it that way, knowing I am an alleged Chrysler bigot and
she has refused to clarify her comments, which confirm my
suspicion. And, the MVPs /are/ biased whether you personally want
to believe that or not and whether you like it or not; just read
what they say, how they say it, what they recommend, and the
stratight-down-the-company-line they always take.

As to the, again, ersatz, smiley face, someone with a sig like I
have is /highly/ likely to drive a Chrysler product of some kind,
wouldn't you think?

Everyone gets the same smiley...
So when someone asks you a silly or obvious question and then winks or
grins, you would take it as an insult? If so, you need a sense of humor
transplant. Kelly's question seemed to me to be a winky silly obvious
question.
I read almost everything from Kelly and Wesley and Malke too. And I don't
see straight-down-the-company lines from any of them but I guess I don't
really know what your meaning of straight-down-the-company lines is. I see
several non MVPs who do seem to march straight-down-the-company line,
however.