reg cleaners

[Mel]

Are programs such as RegCure a good or bad idea--Thanks --Mel

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Are programs such as RegCure a good or bad idea--Thanks --Mel

They are a *very* bad idea.

I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program.
Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the
registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many
people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to
convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt
you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

 

[Bob I]

Decide for yourself.
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

 

[JS]

Freeware registry cleaners can trash your PC at no cost $$$ to you.
Those registry cleaner utilities that cost money are best known
for cleaning your wallet and then trashing your PC.

JS

 

[db ´¯`·.. >]

there are many who
think registry cleaners
are like giving a loaded
gun to a monkey.

however if it is time for you
to progress and stop monkeying
around in the stone ages then
here is some wisdom from
the creator that gave your
computer purpose:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

but if your happier swingin from
trees, that's ok too.

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[Curt Christianson]

Computers *had no* purpose prior to Microsoft?

Microsoft also offered RegClean once upon a time, and saw the problems it
caused!

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Curt

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[Bruce Chambers]

Are programs such as RegCure a good or bad idea--Thanks --Mel

A registry cleaner - even a safe one, should such ever be developed -
is an exercise in, at best, futility. There is no real need for
registry cleaners, other than to provide a profit to their
manufacturers. On rare occasions, registry cleaners can be, in the
hands of a skilled technician, useful, time-saving diagnostic tools.
Otherwise, they're nothing but snake oil.

Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry cleaner?

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced
computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.


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[Bruce Chambers]

Computers *had no* purpose prior to Microsoft?

Microsoft also offered RegClean once upon a time, and saw the problems it
caused!

Curt--

Please don't confuse db with facts!


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[Curt Christianson]

;-)

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[Curt Christianson]

I'v changed my mind. Maybe there is a place for a "reg cleaner"

It's consumers indiscriminate use of the download button in a effort to get
the latest, greatest bell and whistle that causes problems. Then one goes
and UN-installs it--not to mention you got a deal on the software at a
less-than-reputable place.

My answer to reg cleaners is easy--Flatten and re-build!!

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[db ´¯`·.. >]

RegClean never caused
problems, nor the subsequent
versions developed by microsoft.

not sure why you bothered
to mention it, unless it is an
attempt to attack the first registry
cleaner developed and by microsoft.
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[db ´¯`·.. >]

just because you write
a thesis on the subject
doesn't prove you know
more than the team of
certified software engineers
and testers at microsoft.

why, it's like comparing a
caveman to a team of
brain surgeons.

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[Curt Christianson]

To add to Kens advice,
I have many, many read-me files I very seldom read unless necessary. They
might be considered clutter. They are "cataloged" too, but in this day of
MHz and GHz, does it really matter?

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[Bruce Chambers]

RegClean never caused
problems, nor the subsequent
versions developed by microsoft.

Why are you deliberately lying? RegClean caused so many problems that
it was pulled from distribution by Microsoft.


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killed a great many philosophers.
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[Curt Christianson]

Well Brain surgeon you are not!

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[Curt Christianson]

As Bruce so aptly put *if* RegClean was such a neat idea, MS *would not*
have pulled it from the market for doing such a great job. Use your head!

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[PA Bear]

TYVM!

 

[someone]

Just want to say that I was using a registry cleaner when I no longer was
able to boot up. It cost me over $200 to have a puter geek put my puter
operating again. I do not know if it was the registry cleaner or something
else. (I was using the Norton suite which I no longer use.) It does no good
to use System Restore when you are unable to even boot up the puter.

 

[db ´¯`·.. >]

there is no such
thing as a "deliberate lie"...?

the lie is either willful,
blatant or habitual.

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i am not here to debate
my suggestions with you
and would have preferred to
disregard your postings
however, you found the time
to include me.

in regards to regclean, it worked
perfectly for the system it was
designed for. beyond that, it
was simply replaced/upgraded
to a subsequent version when
M$ developed a newer o.s.- as
you well know.

but i did find it interesting that
a private company acquired
that filename:

http://www.regclean.com/faqs.html

the bottom line is that you and
yours think that people using
utilities tested from microsoft,
is like giving a loaded gun to
a monkey.

personally, i don't nor does
M$ care if anyone decides
to use or not use a registry
cleaner. i simply provide
my suggestions as a courtesy
and attack when the issue
becomes personal, instead
of professional - MVP.

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[Gerry]

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