Newly Updated Chart of Registry Cleaner Reviews!

T

Twayne

I know those who love to make spam accusations and who literally hate
Registry Cleaners so much that they closed mindedly and constantly
attempt to force their misguided opinions and misinformation onto the
public will come crawling out of the woodwork over this, but I think
this group could use this post anyway.
I'm not spamming because I have NO investment of any kind in any of
the upcoming links and references; they are simply that which the web
was/is intended for: The dispersal of information.

Although I didn't bother to read them, I did notice the latest cacophony
over Registry Cleaners by the typical group of misinformationists and
ignorant sock-puppets that usually accrue when someone disagrees with
any of them that Registry Cleaners do and will continue to, have a valid
place in most anyone's toolbox of troubleshooting utilities. I'm fairly
sure they'll repeat their silliness here. Oh, and I even came across a
white-paper dated in 2006 I hadn't seen before, but I'm not going to
expose it until one of the narcissistic egos here presents some valid
information for their own claims that there does not exist a Registry
Cleaner that is any good, that won't damage a system, and that will
eventually make the system unbootable, separate from the causes of ANY
program that could cause that to happen.

So whether you're just curious or are looking for a decent Registry
Cleaner, here's a list of reviews of them from several different places.
There are a lot more but I hoped I would find just one site that made a
full comparison of all of them in one place. Not finding that, I
settled for the following:

Ever wonder how Registry Cleaners compare?
Ever wonder if opinions on their outputs are similar from place to place
where different opinions appear?

http://registryrepaircompare.com/
RegCure was #1

Registry Cleaner Reviews:
http://www.registrycleanersreviewed.com/
RegCure made #1

Registry Cleaner Geeks
http://www.registrycleanergeeks.com/
RegCure came out #1

5 Registry Cleaner Reviews: Which Is The Best?
http://www.registrycleaner-reviews.org/
RegCure was on top

Advanced Registry Cleaner
http://registry-repair-software-review.toptenreviews.com/advanced-registry-cleaner-review.html
Not all that great. Techie. Limited Features.

Registry Cleaner Reviews
http://www.registrycleanerreviews4u.com/compare_chart.html
RegistryEasy won, but ... they also sell that one<g>.

Registry Cleaners Reviewed
http://www.registrycleanerreview.us/
and RegCure won yet again.

A discussion on cleaners (toward the bottom of the page)
http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171203805

The "best" Registry Cleaner?
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6138_102-0.html?threadID=116309
Discussion

A pretty bad Registry Cleaner: Complete Registry Cleaner 1.0
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1585462,00.asp


RegCure seems to be doing pretty good even with their last little
glitch. What I'd really like to see is a comparison of the freebie
Registry Cleaners versus the pay-fors; maybe next time.

If you don't think a Registry Cleaner is worth using, that's fine and
your perogative. But forcing, intimidating and shoving others to share
your misguided opinions is just plain wrong.

Twayne`
 
M

Marianne

What a fscking blithering idiot! You don't have a closed mind, you're
closed at the other end and it's coming out of your ears sideways! You
don't know anything about the registry and you repeatedly stick both feet in
your mouth every time you talk about it, why don't you just STFU and stop it
with your idiotic rambling! The last thing "New Users" need is stupid
registry advice from a troll like you!


Twayne said:
I know those who love to make spam accusations and who literally hate
Registry Cleaners so much that they closed mindedly and constantly attempt
to force their misguided opinions and misinformation onto the public will
come crawling out of the woodwork over this, but I think this group could
use this post anyway.
I'm not spamming because I have NO investment of any kind in any of the
upcoming links and references;

Idiot! Of course you are spamming, you are posting *unsolicited* commercial
material, that is spam you fool. Go stick your head in a vise and leave us
alone with your stupid registry cleaners!

M
 
J

johnn

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:00:17 -0300, "Marianne"
What a fscking blithering idiot! You don't have a closed mind, you're
closed at the other end and it's coming out of your ears sideways! You
don't know anything about the registry and you repeatedly stick both feet in
your mouth every time you talk about it, why don't you just STFU and stop it
with your idiotic rambling! The last thing "New Users" need is stupid
registry advice from a troll like you!




Idiot! Of course you are spamming, you are posting *unsolicited* commercial
material, that is spam you fool. Go stick your head in a vise and leave us
alone with your stupid registry cleaners!

M

Mr. Twayne:

I'm not tecchnically knowledgeable enough to speak for or against
Rregistry Cleaners.

One thing I knowfor sure:
You can considere yourself taken to the woodshed (verbally, that is .
.. )

Cheers!

_________________________
John
_________________________

"God is dead"
-- Nietzsche (1844-1900)
"Nietzsche is dead"
-- God
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Twayne said:
I know those who love to make spam accusations and who literally hate
Registry Cleaners so much that they closed mindedly and constantly
attempt to force their misguided opinions and misinformation onto the
public will come crawling out of the woodwork over this, but I think
this group could use this post anyway.
I'm not spamming because I have NO investment of any kind in any of
the upcoming links and references; they are simply that which the web
was/is intended for: The dispersal of information.

Although I didn't bother to read them, I did notice the latest cacophony
over Registry Cleaners by the typical group of misinformationists and
ignorant sock-puppets that usually accrue when someone disagrees with
any of them that Registry Cleaners do and will continue to, have a valid
place in most anyone's toolbox of troubleshooting utilities. I'm fairly
sure they'll repeat their silliness here. Oh, and I even came across a
white-paper dated in 2006 I hadn't seen before, but I'm not going to
expose it until one of the narcissistic egos here presents some valid
information for their own claims that there does not exist a Registry
Cleaner that is any good, that won't damage a system, and that will
eventually make the system unbootable, separate from the causes of ANY
program that could cause that to happen.

So whether you're just curious or are looking for a decent Registry
Cleaner, here's a list of reviews of them from several different places.
There are a lot more but I hoped I would find just one site that made a
full comparison of all of them in one place. Not finding that, I
settled for the following:

Ever wonder how Registry Cleaners compare?
Ever wonder if opinions on their outputs are similar from place to place
where different opinions appear?

http://registryrepaircompare.com/
RegCure was #1

Registry Cleaner Reviews:
http://www.registrycleanersreviewed.com/
RegCure made #1

Registry Cleaner Geeks
http://www.registrycleanergeeks.com/
RegCure came out #1

5 Registry Cleaner Reviews: Which Is The Best?
http://www.registrycleaner-reviews.org/
RegCure was on top

Advanced Registry Cleaner
http://registry-repair-software-review.toptenreviews.com/advanced-registry-cleaner-review.html
Not all that great. Techie. Limited Features.

Registry Cleaner Reviews
http://www.registrycleanerreviews4u.com/compare_chart.html
RegistryEasy won, but ... they also sell that one<g>.

Registry Cleaners Reviewed
http://www.registrycleanerreview.us/
and RegCure won yet again.

A discussion on cleaners (toward the bottom of the page)
http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171203805

The "best" Registry Cleaner?
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6138_102-0.html?threadID=116309
Discussion

A pretty bad Registry Cleaner: Complete Registry Cleaner 1.0
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1585462,00.asp


RegCure seems to be doing pretty good even with their last little
glitch. What I'd really like to see is a comparison of the freebie
Registry Cleaners versus the pay-fors; maybe next time.

If you don't think a Registry Cleaner is worth using, that's fine and
your perogative. But forcing, intimidating and shoving others to share
your misguided opinions is just plain wrong.

Twayne`


Sorry, but mindlessly echoing pure marketing drivel (not a single
reputable technical or scientifically verifiable source in the lot) *IS*
spam, plain and simple. You really should find a new religion; I hear
Scientologists are looking for people just like you: totally lacking in
critical thinking abilities. Just give them money, and you're golden.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
T

Twayne

Marianne said:
What a fscking blithering idiot! You don't have a closed mind, you're
closed at the other end and it's coming out of your ears sideways! You
don't know anything about the registry and you repeatedly stick
both feet in your mouth every time you talk about it, why don't you
just STFU and stop it with your idiotic rambling! The last thing
"New Users" need is stupid registry advice from a troll like you!

YOu're quite wrong; what they need is real data, not sock-puppets like
you who have never had an original thought.
 
T

Twayne

Bruce Chambers said:
Sorry, but mindlessly echoing pure marketing drivel (not a single
reputable technical or scientifically verifiable source in the lot)
*IS* spam, plain and simple. You really should find a new religion;
I hear Scientologists are looking for people just like you: totally
lacking in critical thinking abilities. Just give them money, and
you're golden.

Hey, where'd your boilerplate go to?!? lol, lost it or someting? You
need to reread your parenthetical and then reread the posts again, but
you never looked at them in the first place so ... it's not important.

Tell me something: Whose marketing hype is more prolific and more
abundant: That of Registry Cleaners or that of Microsoft? If "marketing
drivel" is the sign of bad software then EVERY product on the market is
drivel by your standards, MS among the highest and the worst. Like their
boast about how improved security has been for every system since
windows3.1.

Of course, your standards are incorrect and your mind closed because you
profess how terrible a class of programs is without the least bit of
verifiable backup ever having been presented. Never. Not a single
thing. Nothing.
You don't and haven't presented it because you have nothing but
occasional anecdotal evidence of unknown accuracy and source. And you
know I do have it, because I presented it long ago and even challenged
you to a project to evaluate and make public the results of controlled
tests using registry cleaners. As for the project, you became simply
a black hole- nowhere to be seen.

But I've accomplished what I wanted to do here; which was give people
some resources for the better cleaners around.

Twayne`
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Twayne said:
Hey, where'd your boilerplate go to?!? lol, lost it or someting? You
need to reread your parenthetical and then reread the posts again, but you
never looked at them in the first place so ... it's not important.

Tell me something: Whose marketing hype is more prolific and more
abundant: That of Registry Cleaners or that of Microsoft? If "marketing
drivel" is the sign of bad software then EVERY product on the market is
drivel by your standards, MS among the highest and the worst. Like their
boast about how improved security has been for every system since
windows3.1.

Of course, your standards are incorrect and your mind closed because you
profess how terrible a class of programs is without the least bit of
verifiable backup ever having been presented. Never. Not a single thing.
Nothing.
You don't and haven't presented it because you have nothing but
occasional anecdotal evidence of unknown accuracy and source. And you
know I do have it, because I presented it long ago and even challenged you
to a project to evaluate and make public the results of controlled tests
using registry cleaners. As for the project, you became simply a black
hole- nowhere to be seen.

But I've accomplished what I wanted to do here; which was give people some
resources for the better cleaners around.

Twayne`


So where in any of those links, most of which appeared to be sponsored by
RegCure, are the numbers which prove that they have any effect?

You have shown nothing but marketing blurb again..
 
J

John John - MVP

Twayne said:
YOu're quite wrong; what they need is real data...

Real data is something that you have *never* been able to give. Are you
really so daft as to think that advertisement constitutes "real data"?
The rest of use here are not as gullible as you. Your information is
about as real as the cancer data given by cigarette company executives
during congressional hearings.

John
 
J

John John - MVP

Twayne said:
... I've accomplished what I wanted to do here; which was give people
some resources for the better cleaners around.

You've spamed the group with a pile of links to commercial products.
Congratulations, you're a spammer!
 
G

Gerry

Twayne

RegCure claim:

" Q. Why does my PC freeze?
Corruption within your registry keys, registry classes, and registry
settings are the most common causes of Windows error messages"

Totally misleading!

http://www.regcure.com/

RegCure claims that registry corruption is the most common cause are
Windows error messages. My judgement based on investigating thousands of
error reports showing up as Stop Errors and Event Viewer reports does
not substantiate this claim.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
J

John John - MVP

Gerry said:
Twayne

RegCure claim:

" Q. Why does my PC freeze?
Corruption within your registry keys, registry classes, and registry
settings are the most common causes of Windows error messages"

Totally misleading!

http://www.regcure.com/

RegCure claims that registry corruption is the most common cause are
Windows error messages. My judgement based on investigating thousands of
error reports showing up as Stop Errors and Event Viewer reports does
not substantiate this claim.

Of course not, registry corruption is the *least* common cause of
Windows error messages. Other than the completely gullible only ones
wearing blinders and incapable of accepting facts would fall for those lies!

John
 
D

Doug

Twayne said:
I know those who love to make spam accusations and who literally hate
Registry Cleaners so much that they closed mindedly and constantly attempt
to force their misguided opinions and misinformation onto the public will
come crawling out of the woodwork over this, but I think this group could
use this post anyway.
--

--
Regards,

Wrong does not cease to be wrong
because the loud ones scream it consistently. -Me

I've been participating in Usenet groups and other computer related forums
for a lot of years. BBS's since before the WWW. Long before the Windows
registry anyway.

I can't even begin to count the number of posts I've read that follow some
form of "I used <some software name here> registry cleaner and now <some
computer function here> doesn't work anymore. How do I get my computer back
to the way it was?"

I have never seen one, with the exception of obvious spam, where the
individual spoke of a measurable performance increase. Of course there's
always the occasional person who is just really really excited about
registry cleaners for some odd reason.

I am able to reach a conclusion about registry cleaners based on years of
data. They obviously and undeniably can do more harm than good.

Logic would also conclude that these tools are most often sought after by
individuals least capable of safely using them. That is to say those looking
for a "one click fix" are more likely to have insufficient knowledge to
understand the ramifications of changes a registry cleaner may make than
those who would, say, use regedit to properly fix an actual known problem.

Anecdotally after Win 3.11 I've used Win 95, Win 98, Win XP and now Win 7.
(skipped ME and Vista ;) I've never used a registry cleaner of any kind. My
computers have always run just fine thank you very much.

Use one. Don't use one. Makes me no nevermind.

Probably shouldn't be giving people the idea that they are perfectly safe
and provide great benefit. Undeniable irrefutable history says that's simply
not the case.
D

Saying it with great conviction doesn't make it so...
 
M

Marianne

Twayne said:
YOu're quite wrong; what they need is real data, not sock-puppets like you
who have never had an original thought.

Only a dipstick like you would ever think of commercial adverts from snake
oil salesmen as factual data! Turn the vise screw a bit tighter, you
b-o-o-b!

M
 
T

Twayne

....
I've been participating in Usenet groups and other computer related
forums for a lot of years. BBS's since before the WWW. Long before
the Windows registry anyway.

I can't even begin to count the number of posts I've read that follow
some form of "I used <some software name here> registry cleaner and
now <some computer function here> doesn't work anymore. How do I get
my computer back to the way it was?"

I have never seen one, with the exception of obvious spam, where the
individual spoke of a measurable performance increase. Of course
there's always the occasional person who is just really really
excited about registry cleaners for some odd reason.

I am able to reach a conclusion about registry cleaners based on
years of data. They obviously and undeniably can do more harm than
good.
Logic would also conclude that these tools are most often sought
after by individuals least capable of safely using them. That is to
say those looking for a "one click fix" are more likely to have
insufficient knowledge to understand the ramifications of changes a
registry cleaner may make than those who would, say, use regedit to
properly fix an actual known problem.
Anecdotally after Win 3.11 I've used Win 95, Win 98, Win XP and now
Win 7. (skipped ME and Vista ;) I've never used a registry cleaner of
any kind. My computers have always run just fine thank you very much.

Use one. Don't use one. Makes me no nevermind.

Probably shouldn't be giving people the idea that they are perfectly
safe and provide great benefit. Undeniable irrefutable history says
that's simply not the case.
D

Saying it with great conviction doesn't make it so...

Hi Doug,

That's a well thought out, well assembled post; just thought I'd add a
comment here, not that anyone but the fanatics are still reading<g>.
I'm of the camp that registry cleaners CAN be useful and I fully
admit to being the one who constantly picks on those I find to have
completely closed minds on the issue and wish to make anyone they
possibly can avoid and hate registry cleaners via "snake oil" titles and
all the rest of it.
I have essentially the same background as you, going back to the CP/M
days and probably many of the same experiences. I've no problem with
your reasoned opinion on cleaners and think if nothing else it's likely
quite honest opinion. That's fine.

In my case I have found that the registry cleaners I have used on
production and client machines has done them no harm. In fact, such
cleaners create far fewer problems in my experience than the majority of
other Microsoft applications. I don't believe they are any more prone
to irrepairable damage to a system than is any other program
installation or uninstallation. If I actually said "ALL" are safe, I
shouldn't have, but it's more likely the "they all" was in response to
something previously qualified in the post.

At any rate, it's fine with me that you don't use a cleaner, and it's
none of my business anyway. What I DO object to, and react to, are the
statements made, which you can find plenty of on most any group on
MSnews, is claiming that ALL registry cleaners are "snake oil", none are
any good, all will cause unrepairable harm to a system, and all are
capable of bringing a system to a non-bootable state, along with the
condescending attitudes they use against those that don't know any
better, and the put-downs they address to anyone who even asks a
question about the subject. Then they offer "proof" (less so lately) by
sending people containing posts that they themselves wrote. It's even
worse that some of them claim to be MVPs.
They're a small group of people with few interpersonal skills and
terrible communications skillsets. I don't "report" them because that's
not how I operate; libel and defamation will catch up to them or it
won't; not worth the trouble IMO. But, as in any such situation, when I
come across such intentional and willful misinformation I respond to it.
In the sense of information I consider them warts on the ass of
progress. By being so closed minded although bereft of supporting
information, it brings all of their credibility into question.

Well, break's over; on to more important things.

Twayne
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Twayne said:
...


Hi Doug,

That's a well thought out, well assembled post; just thought I'd add a
comment here, not that anyone but the fanatics are still reading<g>.
I'm of the camp that registry cleaners CAN be useful and I fully admit
to being the one who constantly picks on those I find to have completely
closed minds on the issue and wish to make anyone they possibly can avoid
and hate registry cleaners via "snake oil" titles and all the rest of it.
I have essentially the same background as you, going back to the CP/M
days and probably many of the same experiences. I've no problem with your
reasoned opinion on cleaners and think if nothing else it's likely quite
honest opinion. That's fine.

In my case I have found that the registry cleaners I have used on
production and client machines has done them no harm. In fact, such
cleaners create far fewer problems in my experience than the majority of
other Microsoft applications. I don't believe they are any more prone to
irrepairable damage to a system than is any other program installation or
uninstallation. If I actually said "ALL" are safe, I shouldn't have, but
it's more likely the "they all" was in response to something previously
qualified in the post.

At any rate, it's fine with me that you don't use a cleaner, and it's none
of my business anyway. What I DO object to, and react to, are the
statements made, which you can find plenty of on most any group on MSnews,
is claiming that ALL registry cleaners are "snake oil", none are any good,
all will cause unrepairable harm to a system, and all are capable of
bringing a system to a non-bootable state, along with the condescending
attitudes they use against those that don't know any better, and the
put-downs they address to anyone who even asks a question about the
subject. Then they offer "proof" (less so lately) by sending people
containing posts that they themselves wrote. It's even worse that some of
them claim to be MVPs.
They're a small group of people with few interpersonal skills and
terrible communications skillsets. I don't "report" them because that's
not how I operate; libel and defamation will catch up to them or it won't;
not worth the trouble IMO. But, as in any such situation, when I come
across such intentional and willful misinformation I respond to it. In the
sense of information I consider them warts on the ass of progress. By
being so closed minded although bereft of supporting information, it
brings all of their credibility into question.

Well, break's over; on to more important things.

Twayne


One of the funniest things that I have read all week. The guy takes the
exact opposite stance to you but that is ok..

Then you slag off MVPs, all of whom take the stance that this guy does..

I will keep a copy of all of this..
 
M

Marianne

What a joke! People who have computer experience don't need useless
registry cleaners to edit the registry, they know and understand the
registry the back of their hand! Those who don't know anything about
computers and who don't have the knowledge and skills to edit the registry
think that useless cleaners will compensate for their ignorance.

M
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

The Real Truth MVP said:
That makes me wonder just how much and what kind of computer experience
you have. Anyone who says registry cleaners are crap and "Snake Oil"
either have little or no experience with computers or the windows
registry.


--


They call them crap and snake oil because that is what they are.

As the 'Real Truth' MVP, you should know that the Windows 9x registry was
stored in two files which could become distinctly wobbly as their size
increased. This is why Microsoft released Regclean 4/4a. It removed only
safe entries in a bid to keep the size down and the chance of falling over
to a minimum.

As the 'Real Truth' MVP, you should also know that Windows NT stores
registry entries in hive format, and that these do not have a tendency to
fall over as their size increases. Orphaned entries are totally ignored.

So, the use of a registry cleaner which only removes 'safe' entries will
have zero impact on the system, but may put the minds at rest of people who
can't stand to have stuff on their computers which does not need to be
there.

Some registry cleaners offer entries for removal which may compromise the
system in the event that they were removed. Unfortunately, the section of
computer users who are most likely to be taken in by the sales pitch are
also the same section who simply do not have the knowledge to make an
educated decision.

The registry cleaner authors/sellers use arguments that were only valid for
Windows 9x operating systems to instill enough fear that people will part
with cash for a utility which will do NOTHING for their Windows NT based
operating system.

Personally, I think that it is unethical to sell a product which does not do
all that is claimed. However, it is no surprise to find that you don't
agree..
 
L

Leonard Grey

Your post is excellent, Mike. I would only add: He doesn't know the
'real truth' nor is he an MVP.
 
M

Mike Hall - MVP

Leonard Grey said:
Your post is excellent, Mike. I would only add: He doesn't know the 'real
truth' nor is he an MVP.



LOL.. he knows the real truth but doesn't want anybody else to find out..
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

LOL.. he knows the real truth


But only about his not being an MVP ;-)

but doesn't want anybody else to find out..


Almost everyone already knows. The only ones he can fool are those who
are new here--and he doesn't get to fool them for very long either.
 

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