Question about Aero

[Geo]

Guys when I size a box i,.e control panel I get the fancy see through aero
glass effect, but when I click the square to make it fullscreen the top
panel turns to a dark black colour. How can I keep the nice see through
aero effect when I go fullscreen.

 

[John Barnett MVP]

This is by default. The only way I have gotten around the problem to to
physically re-size the window by dragging the re-size points on the
application window - i.e side, top, bottom etc. Some windows will stay
resized and show the aero effect (transparency) but others will not. On this
respect aero is rather disappointing. One would have thought that Microsoft
would have enabled the system to show transparency when the window is
maximised by default, but it appears they haven't.

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[Mike Hall - MVP]

John

There would be nothing to see behind a maximized window. As it is, text has
to be large and white, and pictures have to be fairly radiant to even start
to be able to make out what they are through the aero part of a window.

Laying one aero window directly over another of the same size completely
knocks out the 'path' of the window behind..

This is by default. The only way I have gotten around the problem to to
physically re-size the window by dragging the re-size points on the
application window - i.e side, top, bottom etc. Some windows will stay
resized and show the aero effect (transparency) but others will not. On
this respect aero is rather disappointing. One would have thought that
Microsoft would have enabled the system to show transparency when the
window is maximised by default, but it appears they haven't.

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[Alias]

Guys when I size a box i,.e control panel I get the fancy see through
aero glass effect, but when I click the square to make it fullscreen the
top panel turns to a dark black colour. How can I keep the nice see
through aero effect when I go fullscreen.

What you want is available with Beryl, the REAL Aero. The catch is, you
can't use Beryl with Hasta La Vista. You need to use Linux.

Alias

 

[Jason Freeman]

Mike,

If you have one window open, you should be able to see your desktop through
the translucent title bar. In addition, the amount of what can be seen
through layered title bars depends on the opaqueness (or level of
translucency) of the title bars.

Having said this, I don't really care because I have Aero turned off
altogether!

Jason

 

[Alias]

Guys when I size a box i,.e control panel I get the fancy see through
aero glass effect, but when I click the square to make it fullscreen the
top panel turns to a dark black colour. How can I keep the nice see
through aero effect when I go fullscreen.

The difference between Aero and Beryl:

Alias

 

[Paul Smith]

Guys when I size a box i,.e control panel I get the fancy see through aero
glass effect, but when I click the square to make it fullscreen the top
panel turns to a dark black colour. How can I keep the nice see through
aero effect when I go fullscreen.

As John said this is by design.

Back when Vista was in development it became pretty clear that having
transparency on for maximized windows looks horrible, and so it was
disabled.

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[PSiegmann]

The difference between Aero and Beryl:

Alias

Now, this is where MS just can't win. It's not that hard to impement
those effects, but if MS would really implement over the top effects
like that in the video, the complaining here won't stop. Vista in its
(modest) current form already IS for too many people "too flashy" and
overloaded, if Beryl like effects would been in Vista, the forums
would be full of complaining:

Too Distracting!
Too toy like!
M$... have I bought a OS or a computer game ?!
Another proof that Windows is just all show and nothing inside
Fisher price OS!!

etc. etc. etc. The groups and forums would be full of it.

 

[Alias]

Now, this is where MS just can't win. It's not that hard to impement
those effects, but if MS would really implement over the top effects
like that in the video, the complaining here won't stop. Vista in its
(modest) current form already IS for too many people "too flashy" and
overloaded, if Beryl like effects would been in Vista, the forums
would be full of complaining:

Too Distracting!
Too toy like!
M$... have I bought a OS or a computer game ?!
Another proof that Windows is just all show and nothing inside
Fisher price OS!!

etc. etc. etc. The groups and forums would be full of it.

Beryl can be turned off in Linux. One would assume that one could do the
same if MS decided to copy Linux again.

Alias

 

[PSiegmann]

Beryl can be turned off in Linux. One would assume that one could do the
same if MS decided to copy Linux again.

Excuse the question, since I am not a regular on this newsgroup, but,
you are a troll, or?

The Linux devs didn't invent Desktop Composition.
You can turn off Aero in Vista too.

If you meant that MS should have implement crazy over-the-top effects
at default, which you could deactivate.. well, XP never really lost
the "Fisher Price" image because of the default theme, even though it
was possible to deactivate it.

Vista AERO is considered flashy and distracting by many already now..
if crazed effects would be the default, one could hear the outcry on
Mars.

Another thing - I used the cube effect on Linux, I got a little
headcache of it. Seriously.
There is something called motion sickness, and some people have it. A
product like Windows, that is installed on most PC's of the world,
can't afford too make a considerable amount of people sick by its
default setting.

 

[Alias]

Excuse the question, since I am not a regular on this newsgroup, but,
you are a troll, or?

I am a person.

The Linux devs didn't invent Desktop Composition.

Never said it did.

You can turn off Aero in Vista too.

Never said you can't.

If you meant that MS should have implement crazy over-the-top effects
at default, which you could deactivate.. well, XP never really lost
the "Fisher Price" image because of the default theme, even though it
was possible to deactivate it.

Vista AERO is considered flashy and distracting by many already now..
if crazed effects would be the default, one could hear the outcry on
Mars.

Another thing - I used the cube effect on Linux, I got a little
headcache of it. Seriously.
There is something called motion sickness, and some people have it. A
product like Windows, that is installed on most PC's of the world,
can't afford too make a considerable amount of people sick by its
default setting.

Different strokes for different folks. I like Beryl and find it helps my
productivity. YMMV.

Alias

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

Jason

You would see a this strip of not a whole hell of a lot though.. the
translucent sides are hardly wide enough to see an 8 point line if one ran
down the side of the desktop.. surely the whole point of maximizing is to
get as much real estate as one can..

Mike,

If you have one window open, you should be able to see your desktop
through the translucent title bar. In addition, the amount of what can be
seen through layered title bars depends on the opaqueness (or level of
translucency) of the title bars.

Having said this, I don't really care because I have Aero turned off
altogether!

Jason

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Lang Murphy]

What you want is available with Beryl, the REAL Aero. The catch is, you
can't use Beryl with Hasta La Vista. You need to use Linux.

Alias

Yet another non-Vista post from one who has no intention of helping anyone
in this ng. Wow, big surprise! Uh, not?

Lang

 

[Lang Murphy]

The difference between Aero and Beryl:

Alias

Snore....

Lang

 

[Lang Murphy]

Excuse the question, since I am not a regular on this newsgroup, but,
you are a troll, or?

Uh, yes?

<snip>

Lang

 

[Alias]

Yet another non-Vista post from one who has no intention of helping
anyone in this ng. Wow, big surprise! Uh, not?

Lang

Suggesting a much better alternative to Vista *is* helping in many ways.

Alias

 

[John Barnett MVP]

Mike,

I agree there is nothing to see behind a maximised window but I have to
admit I do like the transparency effect rather than a solid black border.

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[Frank]

Suggesting a much better alternative to Vista *is* helping in many ways.

Alias

Only a brain dead moron like you would make such a stupid idiotic comment.
Frank

 

[Julian]

Only a brain dead moron like you...

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Your insulting brain dead morons!

 

[Julian]

Only a brain dead moron like you...

snip.

You're insulting brain dead morons!