Product Re-Activation

[Guest]

Just swap the old hard drive to the new machine , It will
activate on the new machine. Changing the mother board is
well within the EULA.

 

[Richard Harris]

Swapping over the hard disk on new hard ware wouldn't work as XP would
bluescreen on boot up, this is because of the different HAL of the new
hardware.

The EULA states that you can't transfer an OEM licence from one machine to
another.

So from these two facts, you would need to go out and purchase a copy of XP

Rich

 

[purplehaz]

Not on an oem machine. MS considers the computer the motherboard. If you
change the motherboard it is considered a new computer and oem versions
can't be transferred to new computers according to the ms eula. And the
gateway may be bios locked in which case it will not boot or install on a
new motherboard. Don't believe me call MS. Sure some have gotten away with
it, but this is the policy for oem versions.

 

[Willit]

I don't think you're right. This is from there site on
changing hardware.


"Every single piece of hardware could be changed on a PC
with SLP and no reactivation would be required - even the
motherboard could be replaced as long as the replacement
motherboard was original equipment manufactured by the
OEM and retained the proper BIOS. In the unlikely
scenario that the BIOS information does not match, the PC
would need to be activated within 30 days by contacting
the Microsoft activation center via the Internet or
telephone call - just as in a retail scenario."

 

[Guest]

This is pure crap that you are parroting.

-----Original Message-----
Swapping over the hard disk on new hard ware wouldn't work as XP would
bluescreen on boot up, this is because of the different HAL of the new
hardware.

The EULA states that you can't transfer an OEM licence from one machine to
another.

So from these two facts, you would need to go out and purchase a copy of XP

Rich





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[purplehaz]

When you call them they give you another story. I did and this a few times
and this is what they told me. OEM = non transferable and Computer =
motherboard.
Kurttrail even has an email from ms oem team that also says computer =
motherboard.
At some point they have to draw a line on what is a new computer or else the
no transfer eula becomes mute. The motherboard, as far as I know, is that
line.
Also I think that paragraph you quoted means, yes you can replace the
motherboard as long as its the same board from the same oem as before. Like
if your motherboard dies and you get a new one under warranty. Just
upgrading to a new motherboard for the heck of it, is considered a new
computer.

 

[purplehaz]

Kind of........ If you did take a drive out of one computer that had windows
up and running then it might not boot when installed in a new computer. It
is always best to do a repair install when installing an existing drive into
a new computer.

 

[Ken Blake]

In

I don't think you're right. This is from there site on
changing hardware.

Can you provide the URL of the site you quote from, please? I'd
like to see that.

 

[Willit]

Here ya go>


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xpactiv.asp

 

[Willit]

Look , this is their words not mine, you cannot just read
into it that they meant OEM, they are talking about all
kinds of hardware. I think they want you to guess and
they will say anything to see if it sticks. Once they
plant their feet then they will be stuck with it.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xpactiv.asp

 

[kurttrail]

By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Swapping over the hard disk on new hard ware wouldn't work as XP would
bluescreen on boot up, this is because of the different HAL of the new
hardware.

Then you do a repair install if your new hardware is all that much
different from your old.

The EULA states that you can't transfer an OEM licence from one
machine to another.

Yes, and my Reply EULA states that if you scroll, print, or reply to
this post, that I am your Lord & Saviour.

So from these two facts, you would need to go out and purchase a copy
of XP

So if your reading this, get on your knees and pray!

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[kurttrail]

By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

I don't think you're right. This is from there site on
changing hardware.


"Every single piece of hardware could be changed on a PC
with SLP and no reactivation would be required - even the
motherboard could be replaced as long as the replacement
motherboard was original equipment manufactured by the
OEM and retained the proper BIOS. In the unlikely
scenario that the BIOS information does not match, the PC
would need to be activated within 30 days by contacting
the Microsoft activation center via the Internet or
telephone call - just as in a retail scenario."

Hey Willet,

Do you have a link for that? I gotten two replies from MS that
contradict the statement you quoted, and I like to ask MS again pointing
to the to your quote. One of those replies is restated below.

"The End User License Agreement (EULA) for OEM software, including
Windows XP, states that the software is licensed as a single integrated
product in connection with the hardware. However, it's important to
remember that the end user cannot see nor accept the electronic EULA
until the software is installed on a fully-assembled computer system.
So, even though the original OEM software unit may have been distributed
with a component, like a hard drive, it isn't until the software is
installed on a fully-assembled computer system that it becomes "married"
to the hardware."

"In general, OEM software may not be transferred from one system to
another system. However, the computer system can certainly be updated
with new components without the requirement of a new software license.
The only exception to this is the motherboard 1. If the motherboard is
replaced 2, the computer system is deemed "new" and a new license would
be required. Other PC components may be upgraded, including a hard
drive. Though if the hard drive 3 is replaced/upgraded, the operating
system must first be removed from the old hard drive. To restate: the
operating system is "married" to the computer system on which it is
originally installed."

"If you haven't already, please take a moment to review a comprehensive
group of OEM Licensing Questions and Answers which are specific to
system builders:
https://oem.microsoft.com/worldwide/514341.asp."

"The link above is for registered OEM builders."

"Thank you,
The Microsoft OEM System Builder Licensing Team"

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[Guest]

Yep,

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xpactiv.asp

 

[purplehaz]

Sounds about right for the eula. Keep everyone guessing with conflicting
information so no one knows if the eula is binding or not. Typical ms eula
crap. Who knows, all I know is I use that motherboard transfer thing all the
time when talking people out of buying oem.

 

[Ken Blake]

In

Here ya go>


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xpactiv.asp

Thanks very much.

 

[kurttrail]

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Yep,

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?
url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xpactiv.asp

Well, I wrote back to MS using the quote from TechNet, and then we all
can see what MS has to say about it. Just follow the link below, but
the way I constructed my question, I think the boys at the Microsoft OEM
System Builder Licensing Team are gonna be talking to the boys at
Microsoft Legal before they answer me, so it may take quite a few days
to get a response.

http://communities.microsoft.com/ne...newsgroup=microsoft.communities.oem.licensing

Subject: Can A Motherboard Be Upgraded With OEM WinXP And Keep The Same
License?

"If the motherboard is replaced, then essentially a new computer has
been created and a new operating system license is required."

"If the motherboard is replaced, the computer system is deemed "new" and
a new license would be required."

I have gotten these two answers in this group from the Microsoft OEM
System Builder Licensing Team in the past, however I have recently been
made aware of the quote below:

"Every single piece of hardware could be changed on a PC with SLP and no
reactivation would be required - even the motherboard could be replaced
as long as the replacement motherboard was original equipment
manufactured by the OEM and retained the proper BIOS." -
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tr...net/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/xpactiv.asp

Some corporate OEM's contract out the manufacturing of their
Motherboards to other companies, so I don't see much difference between
them replacing the motherboard for their End Users, and me replacing the
motherboard for my End User, me. So as an End User that built his own
computer, can I replace my motherboard and still keep the same OEM
license for Windows XP, or do I have to buy another one becasue only
OEM's that are corporate entities have the right to replace motherboards
and keep the same OEM license for Windows XP for their End Users?

Thanks,
Kurtis Kirsch

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[Plato]

Sounds about right for the eula. Keep everyone guessing with conflicting
information so no one knows if the eula is binding or not. Typical ms eula
crap. Who knows, all I know is I use that motherboard transfer thing all the
time when talking people out of buying oem.

Ever read the "eula" on the back of a parking lot service or hotel valet
parking service? Basically says they are NOT responsible for any damage
to your car, whether the damage is caused by them or others, etc. Also,
the ticket says you agree to this but of course, you dont get the ticket
until your car is already turned over.

That's been a false statement since the beginning. Tho it's still on the
tickets. What that does is limit claims when your car gets damaged,
that's all.

They wont even go to court, their insurace company will just settle.

 

[kurttrail]

"By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Ever read the "eula" on the back of a parking lot service or hotel
valet parking service? Basically says they are NOT responsible for
any damage
to your car, whether the damage is caused by them or others, etc.
Also,
the ticket says you agree to this but of course, you dont get the
ticket until your car is already turned over.

That's been a false statement since the beginning. Tho it's still on
the tickets. What that does is limit claims when your car gets
damaged,
that's all.

They wont even go to court, their insurace company will just settle.

And that's all shrinkwrap licenses are supposed to be for, to limit the
liability of the entity that is selling a product or service, not to
serve as a lease, usage license, or to limit the consumer's rights to
the actual product or service that they paid their hard-earned money
for.

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