Problems burning dual layer discs

[floppybootstomp]

I've had two failed attempts trying to burn 8Gb of data (CD & DVD Covers in MS Publisher format) to a Datawrite Datasafe Media 8.5Gb DVD+R DL Disc. the disc has a red top and purple dye.

I've tried this on two machines, one has a Philips DVDRW and the other has an NEC drive. The burning process failed on both drives.

The Media was cheap so I do suspect the discs. But not that cheap, I bought ten online for ten pounds, I think, so it's enough cash to be concerned about.

Anybody any ideas? My next step will be to buy some single discs, different brands and makes, also try a DVDRW-R disc or two.

Below is the error log from Nero, can anybody make any sense or glean any clues to the failures?

Sorry it's so long but here's the error report:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 6.6.1.4
Internal Version: 6, 6, 1, 4d
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <PHILIPS DVDR1660P1> Version: P1.4 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.1.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616Q >Version: F403 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.1.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : NVIDIA STRIPE 138.49G nvraid Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616Q atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVDR1660P1 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD740ADFD-00NLR1 nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD740ADFD-00NLR1 nvatabus Port 3 ID 2 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG SP2504C nvatabus Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616Q D: CDRom0
PHILIPS DVDR1660P1 E: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2046MB (2095524kB)
Free physical memory: 1342MB (1374648kB)
Memory in use : 34 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

22.5.2007
ISO compilation
15:15:06 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6475
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : TRUE
Multisession type: : Start multisession
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

15:15:07 #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory

15:15:07 #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

15:15:07 #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer PHILIPS DVDR1660P1 running

15:15:07 #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

15:15:07 #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3305
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

15:15:08 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 281
Last possible write address on media: 4173823 (927:30.73, 8151MB)
Last address to be written: 4127759 (917:16.59, 8062MB)

15:15:08 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 293
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

15:15:08 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2612
Recorder: PHILIPS DVDR1660P1, Media type: DVD+R9 Double Layer

15:15:08 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 459
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

15:15:08 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 4127760 (4127760) = #4127760/917:16.60
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 4127760 blocks [PHILIPS DVDR1660P1]
--------------------------------------------------------------

15:15:08 #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [PHILIPS DVDR1660P1] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 8453652480, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
4127760 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

15:15:08 #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 38
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

15:15:08 #14 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 83
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

15:15:08 #15 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Caching of files started

15:15:10 #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4145
Cache writing successful.

15:15:10 #17 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Caching of files completed

15:15:10 #18 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

15:15:10 #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

15:15:10 #20 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 642
L0 Data Zone Capacity not set.
Max LBA L0 2086911 (1FD7FFh, 4075MB), next writable address 0 (0h, 0MB)

15:15:10 #21 CDR -1205 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 658
Burning Layer 1

15:15:10 #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 668
Start writing layer 1 at address 0 (0h)
Recording mode: unknown Recording Mode

15:15:10 #23 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 289
E: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 04 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 24
Buffer x0ca00600: Len x804

15:15:10 #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6328
Drive: PHILIPS DVDR1660P1
Book Type request [gen]: DVD-ROM, write to EEPROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

15:15:10 #25 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5463
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM

15:15:10 #26 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: No

15:15:28 #27 SPTI -1176 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 289
E: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1176)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x72
Sense Qual: 0x01
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 03 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 72 01
Buffer x06fa0000: Len x10000
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

15:15:28 #28 CDR -1176 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Session fixation error
E: PHILIPS DVDR1660P1

15:15:28 #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

15:15:29 #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

15:15:29 #31 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6328
Drive: PHILIPS DVDR1660P1
Book Type request [gen]: DVD-ROM, write to EEPROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

15:15:29 #32 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 05/12/2005 06:12:26 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

 

[Adywebb]

I can't help decipher the log, but if the problem lies with the discs then I would try Verbatim - they are more expensive, but if you can't get those to work then it must be another reason than the disc.

 

[murdoch]

Does Nero allow you to burn dual-layer?

 

[Adywebb]

Does for me

 

[muckshifter]

Not a fan of Nero myself ... is there not a 6.6.1.8 upgrade ?

Looking at the log nothing seems wrong, or out of place, until the last line ... "Burn process failed at 4x" ...

Does Nero allow you to burn dual-layer?

My thoughts also. It should, but is that the Full Nero ??


Floppy, may I boldly suggest you try K3b in Linux.

If that fails, I would be changing my media.

 

[Adywebb]

Been doing a bit of research Flops - and one problem apart from possible media compatability could be not having DMA switched on for your drives:

http://www.cdrom-guide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281839

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/305210

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260038

 

[crazylegs]

Hi Flopp's

Is Nero the full version and is it fully updated, as there was a patch for DL media released about 6 months ago in some updates I got from nero about that time...

 

[floppybootstomp]

Ok, went down the pub at 6, just got back, me tiddly but to address each point:

I only have two IDE evices on this machine, the optical drives. Primary IDE channel DMA wasn't enabled, so I enabled it. I did kind of wonder about DMA myself after reading the error report again.

Attempted to burn dual layer disk again, it got to 18% this time and crashed.

The 18% did actually get to the DVD-R whereas previously nothing was burnt to DVD-R when it crashed.

I note that my RAID 0 setup (on SATA II ports) does not have DMA enabled but I feel that this shouldn't matter as they're not an IDE device. Should it?

I'm really thinking this is a media issue, only trying with alternative media wil prove this, of course.

I thought the last Nero 6 update was January, '06, I will search for and download that latest update mentioned here.

Mucks: I'm using an OEM version of Nero 6 (£3.00 from CCL) which was last patched January '06. I paid £15.00 for the Video plug-in, which allows me to burn DVD's from any video file format.

I've never had a problem with Nero, it's always been flawless. I'd always recommend Nero. As good as the Linux freebie burning software is, I really want to burn this using Windows. Call it a challenge if you will, but please don't tell me to use Linux as a solution to this problem.

I will use Linux, eventually, of course, but for now this is a problem where I don't want to take the easy way out.

I would apreciate a link to the update crazylegs mentioned, or is it actually at the Nero site?

 

[crazylegs]

Patched my update directly from the Nero site flopp's when I had to reinstall everything and I'm sure one of the updates was something to do with Dual Layer burning...

If yours is up to date or you don't think anything is amiss with Nero, then your probably right its probably the media mate...

 

[floppybootstomp]

Wha' happened?

One minute I'm typing this next minute I wake up and it's 2am

So I went to bed and now here we are

Thanks CL, I'll take a look over at the Nero site.

And I just realised both my serial numbers were on display in my log, have edited them out.

 

[floppybootstomp]

Well I'll be blowed there was another patch, dated 31-03-07, which I believe is the first one to be issued since January 2006, but I could be wrong.

Installed the patch, this time it got to 51% and crashed

That's four discs wasted and still no luck burning, I'm getting peeved a bit, cos these datawrite disks are listed at most online media suppliers and seem to sell well.

I have ordered four Verbatim 2.4 x DVD+R's (cost £7.80) so I'll see how I get on with one of them.

 

[floppybootstomp]

Success! At last

I now have 974 Publisher files taking up 8Gb of space on a dual layer disk.

To do this I had to:

1) Update Nero V6 with the March 07 patch.
2) Update the firmware of my Philips' DVDRW from V1.4 to V1.6
3) Use an expensive Verbatim disk.

And it took 40 minutes to burn

I'm going to back up data to the other three Verbatims and then not bother anymore, I think, too much bother and too much money just for the convenience of having lots of stuff on one disk.

The drive that burnt the disk accesses the burnt files easily, btw, whereas my Samsung DVD ROM drive in the same machine struggles a little to read the files, it takes much longer to read them than the Philips does.

Might also try backing up one of my legally purchased movie DVD's to a dual layer disc without compression to see if it looks any better than a compressed movie on a 4.2Gb disk.

 

[Adywebb]

Glad its sorted Flops

DL discs do seem to be alot more sensitive to quality than normal DVD-R's etc - I'm finding that my hardware can use cheaper DVD-R's quite happily in most cases, but when it comes to DL they do seem to prefer the higher quality stuff, and those Verbatims seem to have a good record of compatability with most makes.

 

[crazylegs]

Ahhh Flopp's you sorted it then...Good lad....That DL media is too much hassle isn't it..

Can see why you wanted to beat it though....Thats me all over aswell..