Problem with text displaying

A

Alonso

I noticed some issue with text: all text looks a bit gray and a bit blurred,
not sharp and crisp as in normal mode - and his in any program, in Outlook,
Firefox, MSIE, Notepad, Word - all looks same, something like "old
newspaper" text.. How to solve this??
 
B

boatman312

I noticed some issue with text: all text looks a bit gray and a bit
blurred, not sharp and crisp as in normal mode - and his in any program,
in Outlook, Firefox, MSIE, Notepad, Word - all looks same, something
like "old newspaper" text.. How to solve this??

Do you have a flat-panel monitor? Have you recently changed your screen
resolution? Flat-panel monitors are only sharp at their native
resolution, so make sure that you are driving yours properly.
 
A

Alonso

boatman312 said:
Do you have a flat-panel monitor? Have you recently changed your screen
resolution? Flat-panel monitors are only sharp at their native
resolution, so make sure that you are driving yours properly.
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Yes, LCD monitor. I did not changed screen resolution. But I 've installed
recently some plugin for application which display graphic charts, etc.
And seems, the problem appears after installing this plugin. I removed it,
bit this not help, I tried to check Didplay properties, but there is no
option allowing reset all setting to normal (default)condition for this
monitor. Or I missing something?
 
M

Mayayana

| I tried to check Didplay properties, but there is no
| option allowing reset all setting to normal (default)condition for this
| monitor. Or I missing something?
|

This is just my personal opinion, but it seems to me
that LCD monitors are genrally inaccurate at their
default settings. They usually look washed out, like
a TV screen with sun glaring on it. The remedy for
that is to reduce the "gamma".

Not changing system settings without asking is basic
programming edicate. If you have software that changes
your display settings that's a bad sign... it may not be
the only problem with the software.
 
A

Alonso

Mayayana said:
| I tried to check Didplay properties, but there is no
| option allowing reset all setting to normal (default)condition for this
| monitor. Or I missing something?
|

This is just my personal opinion, but it seems to me
that LCD monitors are genrally inaccurate at their
default settings. They usually look washed out, like
a TV screen with sun glaring on it. The remedy for
that is to reduce the "gamma".

Not changing system settings without asking is basic
programming edicate. If you have software that changes
your display settings that's a bad sign... it may not be
the only problem with the software.
 
M

Mayayana

| now it looks better, no grayed color effect, but text still have a little
| bit "newspaper" look.
|

What do you mean "now"? You didn't say what you
changed. Did you try gamma and/or brightness
settings in your graphic settings?

Control Panel -> Display -> Settings -> Advanced

Another setting that probably should be default --
but I don't think it is:

Control Panel -> Display -> Appearance -> Effects

In the second drop-down box choose ClearType.
That's a method to make text more clear. For more
info. see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Type
 
A

Alonso

Mayayana said:
| now it looks better, no grayed color effect, but text still have a
little
| bit "newspaper" look.
|

What do you mean "now"? You didn't say what you
changed. Did you try gamma and/or brightness
settings in your graphic settings?

Control Panel -> Display -> Settings -> Advanced

Another setting that probably should be default --
but I don't think it is:

Control Panel -> Display -> Appearance -> Effects

In the second drop-down box choose ClearType.
That's a method to make text more clear. For more
info. see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Type
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I just tried swith to/ off Desktop properties > Appearance > Effects >
Standard/ClearType settings, and when set "ClearType", this cause text look
a bit blurry. So I swithced to "Standard".
 
A

Alonso

B/W headers in google search pages and headers text in User interface
program menus looks a bit blurred, definitely differend from how it look
before.
Does anyone know how to make it look normal way, as it was before?
 
V

VanguardLH

Alonso said:
I noticed some issue with text: all text looks a bit gray and a bit blurred,
not sharp and crisp as in normal mode - and his in any program, in Outlook,
Firefox, MSIE, Notepad, Word - all looks same, something like "old
newspaper" text.. How to solve this??

What LCD monitor do you have?
At what is Windows configured for its resolution and color depth?

So what is the ABNORMAL mode you are using? You state "sharp and crisp
as in normal mode" so you must be using some abnormal mode where the
problem exists.
 
A

Alonso

VanguardLH said:
What LCD monitor do you have?
At what is Windows configured for its resolution and color depth?

So what is the ABNORMAL mode you are using? You state "sharp and crisp
as in normal mode" so you must be using some abnormal mode where the
problem exists.
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LCD monitor, LG L1715S
"sharp and crisp as in normal mode" - I mean with default settings, earlier,
but I didn't changed anything.
Now text in windows programs GUI and google looks OK, but one thing is still
noticeable: black/white headers in all programs GUI interfaces and google
search pages looks a bit *blurred*(not pure black), definitely differs from
normal look, as it was before.
 
V

VanguardLH

Alonso said:
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LCD monitor, LG L1715S
"sharp and crisp as in normal mode" - I mean with default settings, earlier,
but I didn't changed anything.
Now text in windows programs GUI and google looks OK, but one thing is still
noticeable: black/white headers in all programs GUI interfaces and google
search pages looks a bit *blurred*(not pure black), definitely differs from
normal look, as it was before.

LG L1715S
17" LCD monitor

http://www.lg.com/us/support/produc...ode=L1715S&targetPage=support-product-profile
Click on the FAQ tab. Click to expand question 7, "What do I do if the
picture on my monitor is blurry?"

I cannot see their online doc for this product because the idiots think
I'm going to install their AX control just to paint it inside a web
browser. Gee, like showing an HTML version or putting into a .pdf file
must be beyond their comprehension. Nope, not installing their AX
control because they want to pollute my host with an otherwise worthless
script object. From the product description:

Max resolution: 1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz

Typically the native resolution is the same as the maximum resolution.
So is Windows configured to operate the monitor at the native/max
resolution? If not, you'll see artifacts in screen display, like color
tinging (red is slightly misaligned, irregular text stroke density, out
of focus). You should run an LCD monitor at its recommended or native
resolution to keep from incurring video artifacts due to extrapolation
of video information across pixels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution
http://compreviews.about.com/od/monitors/a/LCD-Monitor-Buyers-Guide.htm
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Getting-the-best-display-on-your-monitor

If everything gets too small for your eyes when using the higher/max
resolution, up the DPI to make objects larger. As resolution goes up,
objects get smaller. Why? Because they are painted at a certain size
in pixels for width and height. As resolution goes up, something that
paints at 600x300 will still be using the same number of pixels but now
at the higher resolution which shows more pixels in the screen. So you
need to up the DPI (dots per inch) setting to make the objects larger.
This also makes the objects use more pixels. With more pixels used in
painting an object of the same size, the object gets sharper. This is
like using a digital camera where the pic is going to be the same size
but there's more pixels to paint the same-size object. Or, like with
old dot-matrix printers, they printed the same size characters but a
24-pin dot matrix printer had sharper output than a 9-pin dot matrix
printer. You're wasting your money going to a higher resolution LCD
monitor if you don't also up the DPI to make use of the increased number
of available pixels in painting an object (at the same size).
 
A

Alonso

VanguardLH said:
LG L1715S
17" LCD monitor

http://www.lg.com/us/support/produc...ode=L1715S&targetPage=support-product-profile
Click on the FAQ tab. Click to expand question 7, "What do I do if the
picture on my monitor is blurry?"

I cannot see their online doc for this product because the idiots think
I'm going to install their AX control just to paint it inside a web
browser. Gee, like showing an HTML version or putting into a .pdf file
must be beyond their comprehension. Nope, not installing their AX
control because they want to pollute my host with an otherwise worthless
script object. From the product description:

Max resolution: 1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz

Typically the native resolution is the same as the maximum resolution.
So is Windows configured to operate the monitor at the native/max
resolution? If not, you'll see artifacts in screen display, like color
tinging (red is slightly misaligned, irregular text stroke density, out
of focus). You should run an LCD monitor at its recommended or native
resolution to keep from incurring video artifacts due to extrapolation
of video information across pixels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution
http://compreviews.about.com/od/monitors/a/LCD-Monitor-Buyers-Guide.htm
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Getting-the-best-display-on-your-monitor

If everything gets too small for your eyes when using the higher/max
resolution, up the DPI to make objects larger. As resolution goes up,
objects get smaller. Why? Because they are painted at a certain size
in pixels for width and height. As resolution goes up, something that
paints at 600x300 will still be using the same number of pixels but now
at the higher resolution which shows more pixels in the screen. So you
need to up the DPI (dots per inch) setting to make the objects larger.
This also makes the objects use more pixels. With more pixels used in
painting an object of the same size, the object gets sharper. This is
like using a digital camera where the pic is going to be the same size
but there's more pixels to paint the same-size object. Or, like with
old dot-matrix printers, they printed the same size characters but a
24-pin dot matrix printer had sharper output than a 9-pin dot matrix
printer. You're wasting your money going to a higher resolution LCD
monitor if you don't also up the DPI to make use of the increased number
of available pixels in painting an object (at the same size).
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the resolution was 1280 x 1024, but Screen refresh rate was 60 Hz.
I set it to 75Hz. But this didn't changed small artefacts on bold text
headers, they look not fully solid black(or other solid color), but with
some grey artefacts. I will try system restore. Perhaps some plugin recently
installed may cause this.
 
V

VanguardLH

Alonso said:
the resolution was 1280 x 1024, but Screen refresh rate was 60 Hz.
I set it to 75Hz. But this didn't changed small artefacts on bold text
headers, they look not fully solid black(or other solid color), but with
some grey artefacts. I will try system restore. Perhaps some plugin recently
installed may cause this.

Does "grey artifact" mean the solid colors look washed out? What color
depth (color quality setting) did you use in the Display applet under
its Settings tab? What are the gamma and contrast settings on the
monitor itself? Also, some video card software has its own gamma and
contrast settings that you need to look at. For example, ATI's Catalyst
Center lets you adjust those settings via software (but first check them
in the monitor).

If the "grey artifacts" are what is called ghosting, you have a problem
with your video card, not with the LCD monitor. Does this grey artifact
look like a wispy trail of grey to one side of the text characters
similar to what you see used in static cartoons to show motion blur? Or
does it look like a faint echo of a text character but slightly
misaligned from the dark colored text character? Motion blur happens on
low-end LCD monitors but you didn't mention moving windows around to see
that type of ghosting. Ghosting means you see a faint duplicate of an
object, like faint text slightly offset from the real text.

Ghosting (duplication) can be the result of using a crappy video cable.
Lots of analog video cables do not have proper shielding or termination.
You could get a better analog (VGA) video cable, or you could switch to
the digital (DVI) input on the LCD monitor since a new DVI cable,
especially not the cheap one that came with the monitor, would likely
eliminate the ghosting. Unless you want to end up with a stiff thick
video cable, get one with the ferrite cores (bulges) on each end. Did
you even check the video cable's ends where tight to the video card and
monitor?

Do not use [cheap] video extension cables as most aren't properly
shielded or terminated and the ringing effect is accentuated over the
longer length and the additional connection(s) result is attenuation of
the signal. If the monitor has to be a long ways from the computer
case, get one long well-shielded video cable or move the case closer to
where the monitor has to be. Don't cobble two, or more, video cables
together.

What desktop theme are you using? Right-click on blank area of desktop
and select Properties (or run Display applet in Control Panel) and go
under the Appearance tab. What style was selected for window titles and
buttons? Is it a Windows-supplied color theme or one that you got from
somewhere else? What is the font size selected under that theme? Have
you tried switching away from the current theme and then back again?
 

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