PROBLEM WITH DETECTION OF 2ND HDIVE AFTER NEW INSTALL

[searcher007]

My system now has two SATA internal hard drives-Western Digital 500 gb and a
Western Digital 160 gb. I cloned a copy of my original hard onto the new 500
gb hard drive.BUT with both drives installed I could only boot from my
original 160 gb hard drive.

Obviously, I wanted to use the new hard drive as the Master and the original
as the Slave for storage.But SATA doesn't accomodate this approach.NOW I
could disconnect the original hard drive and boot from the new . I would not
have a bacdk up\storage hard drive, however.

I tried changing driving names through renaming by altering registry values.
I could not rename the drives through MY COMPUTER\MANAGE\DISC DRIVES\RENAME
LETTER OF DEVICE. The drop down menu didn't offer the letter "c" for the new
drive and the only letter offered to select for my original drive was "C".
The changing of names through altering registry values crashed my system.

PRESENT STATUS OF MY SYSTEM: Boots and operates form new 500 GB disc drive.
Original hard drive is recognized in Setup. HOWEVER, if I enable both drives
to be run by SYSTEM BIOS as controller my computer won't boot. ERROR MESSAGE:
No boot device. If I TURN OFF the SATA controller for the 160 GB disc drive
then my computer boots up.

The second hard drive (160 GB drive i want to use for back up) is not listed
in My Computer or Device Manager.In the BOOT MENU I only have one
SATA drive disc device listed to select as primary boot. I can select to
boot from a floppy diskette, even though I don't have a floppy disc, or an
IDE hard drive, even though I don't have such a hard drive. I have selected
SATA hard drive as the only option (1) in the boot order.

When I turn off the 160 GB secondary drive its system controller changes f
from SYSTEM BIOS to unidentified SATA CONTROLLER.

DELL DIMENSION 3100 -e310 BIOS Dell System DV051 version A04
Phoenix ROM BIOS plus version 1.10 A04

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Many thanks and sincere gratitude to anyone who takes the time to answer my
query.
Sincerely,
Chris
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[Anna]

My system now has two SATA internal hard drives-Western Digital 500 gb and
a
Western Digital 160 gb. I cloned a copy of my original hard onto the new
500
gb hard drive.BUT with both drives installed I could only boot from my
original 160 gb hard drive.

Obviously, I wanted to use the new hard drive as the Master and the
original
as the Slave for storage.But SATA doesn't accomodate this approach.NOW I
could disconnect the original hard drive and boot from the new . I would
not
have a bacdk up\storage hard drive, however.

I tried changing driving names through renaming by altering registry
values.
I could not rename the drives through MY COMPUTER\MANAGE\DISC
DRIVES\RENAME
LETTER OF DEVICE. The drop down menu didn't offer the letter "c" for the
new
drive and the only letter offered to select for my original drive was "C".
The changing of names through altering registry values crashed my system.

PRESENT STATUS OF MY SYSTEM: Boots and operates form new 500 GB disc
drive.
Original hard drive is recognized in Setup. HOWEVER, if I enable both
drives
to be run by SYSTEM BIOS as controller my computer won't boot. ERROR
MESSAGE:
No boot device. If I TURN OFF the SATA controller for the 160 GB disc
drive
then my computer boots up.

The second hard drive (160 GB drive i want to use for back up) is not
listed
in My Computer or Device Manager.In the BOOT MENU I only have one
SATA drive disc device listed to select as primary boot. I can select to
boot from a floppy diskette, even though I don't have a floppy disc, or an
IDE hard drive, even though I don't have such a hard drive. I have
selected
SATA hard drive as the only option (1) in the boot order.

When I turn off the 160 GB secondary drive its system controller changes f
from SYSTEM BIOS to unidentified SATA CONTROLLER.

DELL DIMENSION 3100 -e310 BIOS Dell System DV051 version A04
Phoenix ROM BIOS plus version 1.10 A04

-
Many thanks and sincere gratitude to anyone who takes the time to answer
my
query.
Sincerely,
Chris

Chris:
Setting aside the sequence of events as you related them and the "present
status" of your system as you have described...

Let's start from the beginning, OK?

1. We'll assume that when your boot drive - the WD 160 GB one - is the
*only* HDD connected in the system, it boots without incident and the system
operates without any problems. That's right, isn't it?

And that 160 HDD is connected to the *first* SATA connector on the
motherboard - either designated SATA(0) or SATA(1), right?

2. Now you connect your new WD 500 GB HDD to an appropriate motherboard SATA
connector and using your disk-cloning program, you clone the contents of the
160 GB HDD to the new WD 500 GB HDD. Presumably the disk-cloning operation
goes without any problem - no error messages or any untoward events, right?

BTW, what disk-cloning program are you using?

3. Following the disk-cloning operation you *disconnect* the "source" HDD
(the 160 GB one) so that the *only* HDD connected in the system at this
point is the 500 GB "destination" drive. You can leave that HDD connected to
its present motherboard's SATA connector. You've done that, right?

4. Now you boot to the new 500 GB HDD. It should boot and function without
any problems. Assuming that's the case it's probably best if you reconnect
that HDD to the first motherboard's SATA connector. While this is not an
absolute requirement to avoid future problems it's generally good practice
to do so when using various disk-cloning programs to undertake the
disk-cloning process.

5. So assuming the new HDD is a "good" clone, then connect the "old" HDD to
the motherboard's second SATA connector. As you boot the system check the
BIOS to confirm that the boot priority or boot precedence order indicates a
first boot to the 500 GB HDD.

Hopefully all goes well in that the system boots without incident and the
"old" HDD can serve as a secondary HDD for backup/storage purposes.
Anna

 

[Andrew E.]

Anytime you plug in a hd,it gets labeled as 1st boot device in the BIOS,try
resetting youre BIOS correctly...Also,most cloning software only works with
pre-xp OS,xps security prevents the copy...

 

[searcher007]

--
Many thanks and sincere gratitude to anyone who takes the time to answer my
query.
Sincerely,
Chris

Chris:
Setting aside the sequence of events as you related them and the "present
status" of your system as you have described...

Let's start from the beginning, OK?

1. We'll assume that when your boot drive - the WD 160 GB one - is the
*only* HDD connected in the system, it boots without incident and the system
operates without any problems. That's right, isn't it?

And that 160 HDD is connected to the *first* SATA connector on the
motherboard - either designated SATA(0) or SATA(1), right?

2. Now you connect your new WD 500 GB HDD to an appropriate motherboard SATA
connector and using your disk-cloning program, you clone the contents of the
160 GB HDD to the new WD 500 GB HDD. Presumably the disk-cloning operation
goes without any problem - no error messages or any untoward events, right?

BTW, what disk-cloning program are you using?

3. Following the disk-cloning operation you *disconnect* the "source" HDD
(the 160 GB one) so that the *only* HDD connected in the system at this
point is the 500 GB "destination" drive. You can leave that HDD connected to
its present motherboard's SATA connector. You've done that, right?

4. Now you boot to the new 500 GB HDD. It should boot and function without
any problems. Assuming that's the case it's probably best if you reconnect
that HDD to the first motherboard's SATA connector. While this is not an
absolute requirement to avoid future problems it's generally good practice
to do so when using various disk-cloning programs to undertake the
disk-cloning process.

5. So assuming the new HDD is a "good" clone, then connect the "old" HDD to
the motherboard's second SATA connector. As you boot the system check the
BIOS to confirm that the boot priority or boot precedence order indicates a
first boot to the 500 GB HDD.

Hopefully all goes well in that the system boots without incident and the
"old" HDD can serve as a secondary HDD for backup/storage purposes.
Anna


Your information was extremely helpful in my resolving my problem.The system BIOS on my older Dell computer has extremely limited options. You can not change the setting to direct the systenm on which hard drive to first deteck and boot with,

The switching of the cables did resolve the problem.

The post following your was also extremely helpful. Thank you for taking the
time to write such clear directions and diagnosis.