Problem networking Win XP and Win 98 SE

[kaban]

I'm having a problem networking a WinXP Media Center computer with an
older Win 98 SE machine.
Both computers connect to the Internet through a Router and a DSL modem

The XP computer has a shared printer attached, and some shared directories.

Both machines can access the internet.

Both machines can see each other in the network neihborhood.

Both machines can ping each other.

The ICF is not running on the XP machine.

The XP Computer can see the shared folders on the Win 98 Computer.

When I try to explore or open the XP computer from the 98 network
neighborhood I get this Message:

Enter Network Password
You must supply a password to make this connection.
Resource \\John\IPC$
and a window to enter the password, John is the name of the XP machine.

I have tried the network password for the 98 machine but it didn't work,
I also tried the network password for the XP machine but that didn't
help either. As far as I know there were no other passwords specified
for this setup.

I am not very familiar with Win XP, and I am helping a friend with this
problem, I did not set up the XP machine but I was told no share
passwords were set up.

What could the problem be, and where should I look for this mysterious
password.

TIA.

NK

 

[Doug Sherman [MVP]]

What happens if on the Win98 machine you:

Start/Run \\John /user:John\<UsernameUsedtoLogOntoJohn> ENTER ?

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

 

[kaban]

Thanks for the reply, I will try that. But the machines are at my
friends house and I have to go there to test this, are there any other
suggestions I might try at the same time.
I forgot to mention earlier I did add a user on the XP machine with the
same name/password as the 98 machine, but that didn't make any difference.

NK.

 

[Guest]

Create a user on the XP machine which matches that on the 98 machine. You
then have to enter the password for this user when connecting to a share from
the 98 PC.

(You can tell which user this is from the 98 Start Menu, where it will say
"Log off <so-and-so>")

 

[NK]

Thanks for the suggestion, I have already tried that and it did not make
any difference.

 

[Tony]

Thanks for the suggestion, I have already tried that and it did not make
any difference.

Have you tried enabling the Guest Account in Users?

 

[NK]

I finally got to try this suggestion, I get the same message asking for
password.

NK

 

[Guest]

I'm having the same exact problem networking Win 98 with XP. Both PCs worked
fine on the network for a year and then I started getting the message "Enter
Network Password. You must supply a password to make this connection.
Resource \\John\IPC$", and no password works. I made no changes or software
additions that I can think of to cause this. I've tried everything suggested
in this discussion thread, plus I've removed Norton Internet Security on both
machines and even reformatted the Win 98 hard drive and reinstalled Win 98.
A third machine (an XP) has no problem sharing the first XP machine's folders.

Both machines can ping each other. The network neighborhood on the Win 98
machine will not show the XP machine. I can search for the XP machine by
name and find it, but I get the message above when I try to connect.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Chuck]

I'm having the same exact problem networking Win 98 with XP. Both PCs worked
fine on the network for a year and then I started getting the message "Enter
Network Password. You must supply a password to make this connection.
Resource \\John\IPC$", and no password works. I made no changes or software
additions that I can think of to cause this. I've tried everything suggested
in this discussion thread, plus I've removed Norton Internet Security on both
machines and even reformatted the Win 98 hard drive and reinstalled Win 98.
A third machine (an XP) has no problem sharing the first XP machine's folders.

Both machines can ping each other. The network neighborhood on the Win 98
machine will not show the XP machine. I can search for the XP machine by
name and find it, but I get the message above when I try to connect.

Ed,

Did you Disable the Browse Master on the Windows 98 computer? That's the first
step.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html

Please let us know if any of this suggestion is of any help. What you learn may
help others in the future, and that's the purpose of these forums.

 

[Guest]

Hi Chuck,

Thanks for the reply. I did disable the browser in the 98 machine and that
did not help. Ultimately I deleted the user account on the XP machine and
created a new one with the same name, password, and rights as the old one. I
didn't see anywhere in the above references where this was suggested, but it
seems to work (for now).

 

[Haggis]

Hi Chuck,

Thanks for the reply. I did disable the browser in the 98 machine and
that
did not help. Ultimately I deleted the user account on the XP machine and
created a new one with the same name, password, and rights as the old one.
I
didn't see anywhere in the above references where this was suggested, but
it
seems to work (for now).

that probably would have been suggested at some point (not always the first
fix ...its a little drastic :> )

sounds like you had a corrupt user profile ...

thks for posting back

 

[Guest]

I've been grazing this field of inquiry here, trying to find the answer to my
question.

I haven't started trying to network my two computers together yet, so clean
slate here.

My desktop computer runs WinXP Pro and has an AMD Athlon processor, circa
2000 A.D.

My laptop runs Win89 and is a Pentium II.

I use dialup here. It's my only option out here in the country.

My desktop computer connects on the dialup at 38.6kbps. My laptop usually
connects at 24kbps. Both computers have 56K modems, but this is still their
top speeds.

Question: are these two computers incompatible for networking? Specifically,
there is software on one that I can't install on the other (because it's too
old), and I was hoping to be able to access that software from both computers
by being networked.

Is this possible?

diane

 

[Chuck]

I've been grazing this field of inquiry here, trying to find the answer to my
question.

I haven't started trying to network my two computers together yet, so clean
slate here.

My desktop computer runs WinXP Pro and has an AMD Athlon processor, circa
2000 A.D.

My laptop runs Win89 and is a Pentium II.

I use dialup here. It's my only option out here in the country.

My desktop computer connects on the dialup at 38.6kbps. My laptop usually
connects at 24kbps. Both computers have 56K modems, but this is still their
top speeds.

Question: are these two computers incompatible for networking? Specifically,
there is software on one that I can't install on the other (because it's too
old), and I was hoping to be able to access that software from both computers
by being networked.

Is this possible?

diane

Diane,

Any computer running any version of Windows can network with any other computer
running Windows. Are you intending to network them using Ethernet between the
2? Do they both have Ethernet? Your desktop sounds doable; a Win98 laptop may
be another issue, if it doesn't already have Ethernet.

If you're going to run Ethernet between them, I suggest that you use IPX/SPX,
not NetBT, for file sharing.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html

Do you really need to keep the modems inside them? Will you be carrying the
laptop away from your home occasionally, or will it stay in your home? If the
latter, and if you are adding Ethernet adapters to both anyway, may I suggest
that you consider getting a router with PPP dialup support and disabling the
modems in both computers?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/sharing-your-dialup-internet-service.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/sharing-your-dialup-internet-service.html

If the old software really can't be installed on the desktop computer, you may
end up running a remote desktop solution. This will take a fair amount of
memory. A remote desktop product like VNC will run on both computers; on a
computer with Windows 98, you might find memory a bit tight. I use UltraVNC
(free).
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/essential-tools-for-desktop-and.html#UltraVNC>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/essential-tools-for-desktop-and.html#UltraVNC

These are thoughts off the top of my head. Let me know what you think, and
there may be more possibilities.