Problem Moving Files

[Eddie]

I have a folder on my C: drive that I keep customer & job
info for my work. I decided to make a copy of the folder
on CD for backup purposes. In Explorer I simply drag the
folder from the c: drive to the D: drive (CD-RW) and the
files begin to transfer. However I have 5 files that
cause a dialog box to open. The dialog box is as follows:

----------------------------------------------------------
Confirm Stream Loss

The file 'Thumbs' has extra information attached to it
that might be lost if you continue copying. The contents
of the file will not be affected. Information that might
be lost includes:

:encryptable:$DATA

Do you want to proceed anyway?

<Yes> <Yes to All> <No> <Cancel>
----------------------------------------------------------

If I click "Yes" then the transfer continues until it
comes to the next file that causes the same problem.
Three of the five files that cause the problem are MSWord
docs, one is an Excel file and the last is a .jpg file
which is a photo from a digital camera. There are many
more of these Word, Excel & .jpg files in the folder that
don't cause the problem.
I assumed that the message was refering to a file
named 'Thumbs' but there is no file with that name.
I tried to drag the folder from C: to E: (a second hard
disk) but got the same errors in the same places. If I
drag the files individually I have no problems.

I am running Windows XP Pro on a Dell Pentium III at
933Mhz.

Any ideas? Thanks

P.S. This is my second posting for this problem and I
have sense found that if I move the problem files to
other sub folders within the main folder it sometimes
resolves the problem. Other times it causes the file that
took the position of the moved file to creat the problem.
Beats Me!!!???

 

[rifleman]

Eddie cogitated deeply and scribbled thusly:

I have a folder on my C: drive that I keep customer & job
info for my work. I decided to make a copy of the folder
on CD for backup purposes. In Explorer I simply drag the
folder from the c: drive to the D: drive (CD-RW) and the
files begin to transfer. However I have 5 files that
cause a dialog box to open. The dialog box is as follows:

----------------------------------------------------------
Confirm Stream Loss

The file 'Thumbs' has extra information attached to it
that might be lost if you continue copying. The contents
of the file will not be affected. Information that might
be lost includes:

:encryptable:$DATA

Do you want to proceed anyway?

<Yes> <Yes to All> <No> <Cancel>
----------------------------------------------------------

If I click "Yes" then the transfer continues until it
comes to the next file that causes the same problem.
Three of the five files that cause the problem are MSWord
docs, one is an Excel file and the last is a .jpg file
which is a photo from a digital camera. There are many
more of these Word, Excel & .jpg files in the folder that
don't cause the problem.
I assumed that the message was refering to a file
named 'Thumbs' but there is no file with that name.
I tried to drag the folder from C: to E: (a second hard
disk) but got the same errors in the same places. If I
drag the files individually I have no problems.

I am running Windows XP Pro on a Dell Pentium III at
933Mhz.

Any ideas? Thanks

P.S. This is my second posting for this problem and I
have sense found that if I move the problem files to
other sub folders within the main folder it sometimes
resolves the problem. Other times it causes the file that
took the position of the moved file to creat the problem.
Beats Me!!!???

there is a file called Thumbs - it's a hidden system file so you can't
see it unless you tell Windows to show hidden files. Don't worry about
it, just let the transfer carry on. Annoying, but there it is.

 

[db]

I have a folder on my C: drive that I keep customer & job
info for my work. I decided to make a copy of the folder
on CD for backup purposes. In Explorer I simply drag the
folder from the c: drive to the D: drive (CD-RW) and the
files begin to transfer. However I have 5 files that
cause a dialog box to open. The dialog box is as follows:

----------------------------------------------------------
Confirm Stream Loss

The file 'Thumbs' has extra information attached to it
that might be lost if you continue copying. The contents
of the file will not be affected. Information that might
be lost includes:

:encryptable:$DATA

Do you want to proceed anyway?

<Yes> <Yes to All> <No> <Cancel>
----------------------------------------------------------

If I click "Yes" then the transfer continues until it
comes to the next file that causes the same problem.
Three of the five files that cause the problem are MSWord
docs, one is an Excel file and the last is a .jpg file
which is a photo from a digital camera. There are many
more of these Word, Excel & .jpg files in the folder that
don't cause the problem.
I assumed that the message was refering to a file
named 'Thumbs' but there is no file with that name.
I tried to drag the folder from C: to E: (a second hard
disk) but got the same errors in the same places. If I
drag the files individually I have no problems.

I am running Windows XP Pro on a Dell Pentium III at
933Mhz.

Any ideas? Thanks

P.S. This is my second posting for this problem and I
have sense found that if I move the problem files to
other sub folders within the main folder it sometimes
resolves the problem. Other times it causes the file that
took the position of the moved file to creat the problem.
Beats Me!!!???

The thumbs.db file is a hidden system file which stores the thumbnail images of
the contents of a folder, you do not need to move it, it will be recreated next
time you turn on thumbnail view. The other files you mention I am not so sure
about. Do any of the Word documents contain embedded links to another file (a
picture for example). If so, moving the file could break the links so the
document would open with a blank space where the picture should be and you would
need to mend/fix the link manually.
Hope this helps in some small way.

db

 

[Alex Nichol]

I have a folder on my C: drive that I keep customer & job
info for my work. I decided to make a copy of the folder
on CD for backup purposes. In Explorer I simply drag the
folder from the c: drive to the D: drive (CD-RW) and the
files begin to transfer. However I have 5 files that
cause a dialog box to open. The dialog box is as follows:

----------------------------------------------------------
Confirm Stream Loss

The file 'Thumbs' has extra information attached to it
that might be lost if you continue copying. The contents
of the file will not be affected. Information that might
be lost includes:

:encryptable:$DATA

Do you want to proceed anyway?

<Yes> <Yes to All> <No> <Cancel>
----------------------------------------------------------

If I click "Yes" then the transfer continues until it
comes to the next file that causes the same problem.
Three of the five files that cause the problem are MSWord
docs, one is an Excel file and the last is a .jpg file
which is a photo from a digital camera. There are many
more of these Word, Excel & .jpg files in the folder that
don't cause the problem.

I think there are two separate things here. Basically on an NTFS disk
there is possibly more information about files ('Metadata') than is
contained in either the file itself or in the basic directory entry. If
you copy the file to a folder that is *not* on NTFS - to a FAT 32 drive
or a CD for example - there is no place for this data, so there is this
warning.

Now Thumbs.db is a System file - it holds cached thumbnails of files in
folders where you have a Thumbnail view. Its extra data would not
matter very much, and in any case there is not often any point in
including the file unless you are copying the entire content of a
folder as a unit - and not that much even then.

The 'Encryptable data' though will be tied in with use of the
encryption system - I would think you have at some time encrypted the
content of a folder and added a file to it, not yet encrypted but a
candidate for it.

Encrypted files *must* be handled with the greatest care - and decrypted
before moving out of the NTFS system. And you *MUST* make sure you back
up the 'encryption certificates'. If a file gets detached from the
certificates (eg by copying to a CD and thence to another machine), or
through reinstalling the system - without that backup - then the files
become *totally* irretrievable. the encryption is top strength