Prayer for John Weatherly's computer problems

[rogue]

JERRY
Sometime if you get daring and decide to change OS's
to something like Linux, you can replace the Office
Suite with OpenOffice. Firefox is also compiled for
Linux, as is Thunderbird.

[snip]
GRINDER
OpenOffice is also available for Windows.

JERRY
Is it? I need to check that out. I've already set up the GIMP for
Windows so I don't need photoshop. Nice program too, but I'm still
learning to use it. I like Open Office on Linux, so I may be able to
get free of Microsoft's Office Suite soon.

Thanks!

 

[JohnH]

That is how the passengers on the Titanic felt as they steamed out of port.


Actually, McAfee is not quite as bad as Nortons so that is the good news. You
should be looking for all sorts of problems - Strange re-boots,
blue-screen-of-death, locking up, applications not starting, huge amounts of
memory hogging, and ... oh wait, sorry, that would be Microsoft. Actually,
McAfee is better than it used to be. During the days of Win3.1/Win95/Win98 I
used to do side work for a local ISP, writing software and such. As part of
that I would make house calls to subscribers who could not connect and so forth.
Naturally I would usually find all sorts of things haywire and work on those as
well. One common thing I found was that if I disabled McAfee anti-virus it
would help in about 5% of the problems. However, that was then and as I said,
they are improved now as far as I know. However, I still consider McAfee an
abomination (I think I read that in Leviticus or someplace) second only to
Nortons.

Hey Falcon,

Ah, Leviticus something. <grin> Interestingly enough, this topic
somehow reminds me of which Bible version is the best one, or whether
it's better to sprinkle or immerse, or whether or not that prophecy,
tongues, and knowledge have already ceased. I'm trying to figure how
to swing this back to software, but I think that I'll just let it pass.
Besides, I'm working my way back from another migraine and don't need
another one just yet. Imitrex is very expensive these days.

Shalom,

JohnH

 

[JohnH]

Take an original KJV, of course, and impress all your friends with the
ability to correctly pronounce "shew".

Of course, the original "original" was the 1611. Want to see how it
did the first day?

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the Heauen, and the Earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without forme, and voyd, and darkenesse was
vpon the face of the deepe: and the Spirit of God mooued vpon the face
of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God diuided the
light from the darkenesse.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light, Day, and the darknesse he called
Night: and the euening and the morning were the first day.

:-D

Rob, who brings his laptop to church with the Bibles on it

Well, I haven't quite gotten that bold yet. Bible Study and one Sunday
evening service has been it.

JohnH

 

[Dave]

Please join me in daily prayer for JW's computer problems.

Dear Gastrich-wannabe:

"And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites: for they
love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the
streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have
their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

Jesus's instructions about prayer, Matthew 6:5, 6

Signed,

The Computer Gods

Snip

 

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

JERRY
Is it? I need to check that out. I've already set up the GIMP for
Windows so I don't need photoshop. Nice program too, but I'm still
learning to use it. I like Open Office on Linux, so I may be able to
get free of Microsoft's Office Suite soon.

Many open source tools are available across Linux and Windows
platforms, such as Open Office, FireFox, GAIM etc. and soon/now Eudora
(free to use, but not open source) is too.

IMO this is the best hedge against being tied to an OS vendor,
especially for "managed users" who only use certain white-listed
programs to "do their work". You can expect differences when moving
from one OS and/or hardware platform to another, but there may be less
pain that learning entirely new apps, plus better data compatibility.

I prefer Eudora to most email apps, because most email apps hide
incoming emaul attackments within their mailboxes. That creates a
backup conundrum; I want to backup "data", but I want exclude malware
and code, in case the reason I have to "blind restore" in inexplicable
data loss that was caused by an unknown malware payload.

Malware management is also far easier when you can scan and
definitively clean every attachment that was ever sent. Eudora breaks
attachments out of messages before storing the mail, so that the
attachments are stored elsewhere (best practice, outside the
data/backup set) as loose files that can be scanned, cleaned, etc.

But don't assume FireFox means no patch worries; typically, there's a
new point revision of FireFox every month, just like MS have their
monthly patch releases. It's harder to automate FireFox patching
across an organisation that is used to current MS solutions in that
space, but for end users, the 4.5M download replaces the whole of
FireFox, and isn't too onerous a download.

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Tip Of The Day:
To disable the 'Tip of the Day' feature...

 

[Falcon]

Of course, the original "original" was the 1611. Want to see how it
did the first day?

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the Heauen, and the Earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without forme, and voyd, and darkenesse was
vpon the face of the deepe: and the Spirit of God mooued vpon the face
of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God diuided the
light from the darkenesse.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light, Day, and the darknesse he called
Night: and the euening and the morning were the first day.
Well, I haven't quite gotten that bold yet. Bible Study and one Sunday
evening service has been it.

I have been using my PDA instead of taking a "Hardcopy" Bible when
goin' to preachin'. I have six different translations on it and use
a zippered binder to take notes. Works very well for me and gives a
whole new dimension to "Palm" Sunday. I have toyed with taking a
laptop but seems to me to be a little to much in terms of taking
notes since my tappity-tapping on the keyboard is slower than I can
write and also more noise.

 

[Grinder]

jw wrote:

I'm running FireFox now, and it seems to be working

fine. I am philosophically opposed to running any
Microsoft software I don't absolutely have to have.
I LOVE Windows XP Pro, and I love the Office Suite,
but I'd just as soon not use Outlook or IE.

rogue wrote:

JERRY
Sometime if you get daring and decide to change OS's

to something like Linux, you can replace the Office
Suite with OpenOffice. Firefox is also compiled for
Linux, as is Thunderbird.

[snip]
GRINDER
OpenOffice is also available for Windows.

JERRY
Is it? I need to check that out. I've already set up the GIMP for
Windows so I don't need photoshop. Nice program too, but I'm still
learning to use it. I like Open Office on Linux, so I may be able to
get free of Microsoft's Office Suite soon.

English version for Windows, courtesy of Indiana University:

ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/openoffice/stable/1.1.4/OOo_1.1.4_Win32Intel_install.zip

 

[rogue]

jw wrote:


I'm running FireFox now, and it seems to be working

fine. I am philosophically opposed to running any
Microsoft software I don't absolutely have to have.
I LOVE Windows XP Pro, and I love the Office Suite,
but I'd just as soon not use Outlook or IE.

rogue wrote:


JERRY
Sometime if you get daring and decide to change OS's

to something like Linux, you can replace the Office
Suite with OpenOffice. Firefox is also compiled for
Linux, as is Thunderbird.

[snip]
GRINDER
OpenOffice is also available for Windows.

JERRY
Is it? I need to check that out. I've already set up the GIMP for
Windows so I don't need photoshop. Nice program too, but I'm still
learning to use it. I like Open Office on Linux, so I may be able to
get free of Microsoft's Office Suite soon.

English version for Windows, courtesy of Indiana University:

ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/openoffice/stable/1.1.4/OOo_1.1.4_Win32Intel_install.zip

JERRY
Got it, thanks! I will install later and play with it. I'm also
planning to try Thunderbird on the laptop and see how it works.

 

[Rob Perkins]

Of course, the original "original" was the 1611.

Yes, that'll do! Of course the one that was authorized at the beginning
of the 19th century is also nice for that sort of thing.

Well, I haven't quite gotten that bold yet. Bible Study and one Sunday
evening service has been it.

I'm due to teach an adult men's class next Sunday, and I'll be bringing
the iBook with me, to help with that. They're already used to it from my
use of an older Dell; I use it when passages come to mind but the exact
location doesn't.

Rob

 

[JohnH]

I have been using my PDA instead of taking a "Hardcopy" Bible when
goin' to preachin'. I have six different translations on it and use
a zippered binder to take notes. Works very well for me and gives a
whole new dimension to "Palm" Sunday. I have toyed with taking a
laptop but seems to me to be a little to much in terms of taking
notes since my tappity-tapping on the keyboard is slower than I can
write and also more noise.

We're such a pampered and spoiled technological generation, are we not?
What used to take hours, days, weeks, months, or even years to
research for our spiritual ancestors can now be done with the relative
dash of a few keystrokes. Of course, if someone ever unplugged the
Internet, so to speak, then there will be some collective gnashing of
teeth, I think.

 

[J.J. O'Shea]

This is precisely what Microsoft has already said it will be doing come WinXP
for 64 bit. It will kill _all_ 16-bit apps (DOS, Win3.x, some Win9.x) and
_all_ 32-bit drivers (that is, each and every driver running on any Win2000,
WinNT, or WinXP system shipping today.) Some 32-bit applications will run so
long as they don't try to access hardware directly. Read
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/64bit/russel_x64faq.mspx> for
yourself and see.

What makes things even worse than a quick look at the FAQ may make it seem is
that a lot of, possibly most, installers for Windows apps are 16-bit apps,
even if the apps themselves are 32-bit. It's going to be really difficult to
use those 32-bit apps on the 64-bit system if they can't be installed because
the installer is 16-bit. And you can't just upgrade from the old system, you
_must_ do a fresh install, which means that all old apps are _history_. That
particular item _is_ in the FAQ.

JERRY
Not the first time that Apple shot itself in the foot. And
doubtlessly, it won't be the last. For a corporation with some great
ideas, they do some of the dumbest marketing things I have ever seen in
the industry.

Then it looks as though Microsoft is following their lead. Again. And as
usual. And that Microsoft is messing up while following Apple's lead. Again.
And as usual.