Power supply

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spodosaurus

Bob said:
Win XP Pro SP2

How do I find out the brand and the wattage of my installed power supply?

And, (I'm building a new computer - home use, single user, mostly games.
Good video card) What size power supply is slightly above what an
average user would want?

Thanks, in advance
Bob


BTW, Any guess what I should pay for a no frills case, power supply (and
does the power supply fan come with it?)

Don't skimp on the power supply, you'll regret it.


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Bob said:
Win XP Pro SP2

How do I find out the brand and the wattage of my installed power
supply?

And, (I'm building a new computer - home use, single user, mostly
games. Good video card) What size power supply is slightly above
what an average user would want?


400w (antec: or another reputable brand)

Thanks, in advance
Bob


BTW, Any guess what I should pay for a no frills case, power supply
(and does the power supply fan come with it?)

Get an Antec case, then you have a decent PSu along with an above average
case. Around 50 bucks. Yes the PSU fan comes with the PSU almost always.
Some cases have a case fan already installed.
 
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Bob

Win XP Pro SP2

How do I find out the brand and the wattage of my installed power
supply?

And, (I'm building a new computer - home use, single user, mostly
games. Good video card) What size power supply is slightly above
what an average user would want?

Thanks, in advance
Bob


BTW, Any guess what I should pay for a no frills case, power supply
(and does the power supply fan come with it?)
 
K

KC Computers

How do I find out the brand and the wattage of my installed power supply?

You need to open up the computer and look on the power supply.

And, (I'm building a new computer - home use, single user, mostly
games. Good video card) What size power supply is slightly above
what an average user would want?

A good quality 400W+ power supply (such as Antec, Enermax) would
be a good choice.
 
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larry moe 'n curly

Bob said:
Win XP Pro SP2

How do I find out the brand and the wattage of my installed power
supply?

You have to look at it because there's no way the computer can read
that information the way it can with a hard drive or graphics card. If
the label doesn't show a familiar brand, check its UL (under the "9U"
or "RU" symbol) and CSA registration numbers and look them up at:

http://directories.csa-international.org

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/index.htm

If the PSU doesn't have either number, it's guaranteed to be a piece of
junk, but even if it does, it can still be junk.
And, (I'm building a new computer - home use, single user, mostly
games. Good video card) What size power supply is slightly above
what an average user would want?

600W, but 300W is actualy what's needed. http://takaman.jp has the
best power estimator because it doesn't overestimate as much as most
and it gives amp numbers as well as total wattage. However it hasn't
been working for the past few days, but there are also
www.jscustompcs.com and http://extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp. All
estimators are so conservative that any PSU that meet their wattage
recommendations will be far more than adequate, unless it's absolutely
horrible junk, like Powmax, Deer (several brands, including Codegen,
Logic, Allied, L&C, and several animal names), or anything without a
real UL or CSA registration number.
BTW, Any guess what I should pay for a no frills case, power supply
(and does the power supply fan come with it?)

Check the "hot deals" forums at FatWallet.com and AnandTech.com, Fry's
ads (Ultra is often featured -- PSU is OK but not great, sometimes
Antec is featured). $30, shipped, is common, but usually for that
price any included PSU is junk. OTOH it sometimes costs less to buy a
cheap case with junk PSU and get a separate high quality PSU than get a
quality case & PSU together. But avoid cheap cases that have a thing
that sticks out at the rear where the card brackets screw in because
that makes the rear really flimsy; on better cases the cards instead
sit back about 1/2" from the rear. If your mobo measures more than
about 8", from front to back, look for a case that's at least 19",
front to back, or the DVD and CD drives won't fit in front of the mobo.
Also with cheap cases avoid tool-free access because the latches used
are often junk

Fortron-Source is the biggest bargain in PSUs, about $25 for 300W to
$40-50 for 400-450W, and their quality is first-rate and their ratings
very conservative. A 350-400W Fortron can do what a lot of 450-550W
competitors often can't OTOH a 500W piece of junk may not be as good
as a 250W Fortron -- see www.jonnyguru.com's adventure in blowing out a
couple of 550W Powmaxes with 200-300W loads. The only way to find
something as good as Fortron at a similar price is through a rebate
deal on an Antec or shopping the used or surplus markets for OEM PSUs
with unfamiliar brand names.

Be sure that the PSU you buy is designed for your mobo (20 or 24-pin
main connector, 4 or 6 pin auxillary connector), drives (SATA power
connector), and graphics cards (some high performance models need their
own connector).
 
C

Conor

Bob said:
Win XP Pro SP2

How do I find out the brand and the wattage of my installed power
supply?
Open the case and look at the sticker on it. You may need to remove it.
And, (I'm building a new computer - home use, single user, mostly
games. Good video card) What size power supply is slightly above
what an average user would want?
450-500W. Get a decent branded one and go for one with a 120mm fan.
 
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Sean Cousins

450-500W. Get a decent branded one and go for one with a 120mm fan.

Considering how power hungry video cards are getting I recommend
getting the most you can afford. I thought my three year old Zalman
400w would be good enough with my X800XL but it is borderline as it
only has 15amps on the +12v rail. I also have a 350w Fortron with a
combined 25amps on the two +12v rails but I decided to buy a Seasonic
S12 600w which has a combined 36amps on the two +12v rails. Hopefully
that should do me for at least another three years. :)
 

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