Please help! No automatic restore points

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Jill,
PS. Forgot to mention to you but did have it in a previous message. I changed the SR to 60 seconds and it didn't create
a RP.
Turning off System Restore will delete all previous restore points--it
essentially wipes out the shadow copy storage area. What I would recommend
is turning SR back on, leaving the computer on overnight, and then checking
to see whether the scheduled task completes.

The registry changes you made should not have any affect.
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Where did you change SR to 60 seconds? In Task Scheduler?
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Not Task Scheduler.
Here in regedit.
HKLM \software\Microsoft\windows nt\currentversion\systemrestore\RPGlobalinterval 0x0000a8c0 (43200)

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Where did you change SR to 60 seconds? In Task Scheduler?
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PS I also tried to manually run SR from Task Scheduler.
Didn't work either.

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As I stated earlier, Vista ignores these keys. Changing them will have no
impact on System Restore.

To answer your other question, you said you tried running the tool manually
from Task Scheduler. This doesn't work for me either so I suspect it's by
design. I would still recommend waiting for the task to run on its own
according to the triggers specified.
 
As I stated earlier, Vista ignores these keys. Changing them will have no
impact on System Restore.
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According to Ed Bott's book "Vista Inside Out" that is the way you do it. He's the one that I got it from.
I can't believe he would print it if it didn't work?
And if that is so it won't work in 24 hours either.
To answer your other question, you said you tried running the tool manually
from Task Scheduler. This doesn't work for me either so I suspect it's by
design. I would still recommend waiting for the task to run on its own
according to the triggers specified.
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Jill said:
Turning off System Restore will delete all previous restore points--it
essentially wipes out the shadow copy storage area. What I would
recommend is turning SR back on, leaving the computer on overnight,
and then checking to see whether the scheduled task completes.

The registry changes you made should not have any affect.
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Jill, I just want to make clear, when I told him to do that, it appeared he
had no restore points beyond those he manually created himself. As such, I
didn't see that he had anything to lose by shutting off SR, rebooting and
turning it back on.

At this point, I agree, he probably should just turn the system on and let
it run to see if SR kicks in assuming nothing he's done in the registry
interferes.
 
Jill said:
Turning off System Restore will delete all previous restore points--it
essentially wipes out the shadow copy storage area. What I would
recommend is turning SR back on, leaving the computer on overnight,
and then checking to see whether the scheduled task completes.

The registry changes you made should not have any affect.


RScotti said:
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:13:44 -0700, "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]"

I'm confused...you said you turned off System Restore, correct? Why
did you
turn it off? With all the tweaking that's happening I'm concerned
that we won't get Vista back to the default state.

I did that because the first post from Michael said:

the next step would be to turn off System Restore on all drives,
then, reboot the system and turn it back on.

Did that before any of these other steps were done, It didn't help.

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Jill, I just want to make clear, when I told him to do that, it appeared he
had no restore points beyond those he manually created himself. As such, I
didn't see that he had anything to lose by shutting off SR, rebooting and
turning it back on.

At this point, I agree, he probably should just turn the system on and let
it run to see if SR kicks in assuming nothing he's done in the registry
interferes.
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I also told Jill I did that before any other tweaks were done.Like you said I had nothing to lose.

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In services, change Volume Shadow Copy to automatic start. Then reboot and
see if that solves your problem.

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Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User
 
In services, change Volume Shadow Copy to automatic start. Then reboot and
see if that solves your problem.
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Hi Richard,
It didn't seem to work but saw these errors about the time I did the restore:
12:03:33
Task Scheduler successfully finished "{F598D853-0671-4B75-82FA-4D298475B555}" instance of the "\Microsoft\Windows\SystemRestore\SR" task for user "WORKGROUP\RLS-PC$".
Task Scheduler launch task "\Microsoft\Windows\SystemRestore\SR" , instance "C:\Windows\system32\rundll32.exe" with process ID 4756.
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Then there was this a few minutes earlier 12:00:13: AM:
Task Scheduler could not launch task "\Microsoft\Windows\SystemRestore\SR" as scheduled. Instance
"{0D1D16CE-5DB5-49BE-900B-73CAF686023A}" is started now as required by the configuration option to start the task when available,
if schedule is missed.
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Also I made a Complete PC Backup and it did make a restore point for that at 10:58 PM today.that's the only one it made
except the manual one I did.

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PS It does say it running like it did before but doesn't stop just stays running until I stop it or reboot.
In services, change Volume Shadow Copy to automatic start. Then reboot and
see if that solves your problem.
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Here's an update.
I tried to use my DVD to "upgrade" to the same Ultimate full version but after it started upgrading the files it
stopped. Got an error saying upgrade was unsuccessful and went back to my original install.
The files are:
Mini040807-01.dmp
and two others that were in my user appdata\local\temp
but there now gone!

It gave an Internet link to get an answer but when I hit for the answer to my problem from Windows it just went away
with no information.

I just got a new computer from Systemax on Monday with Vista Ultimate. I just noticed today that I have no automatic
restore points. I can create manual ones but not automatic ones.

I called Systemax and they said they can't fix it unless I send it back to them and they reload the OS. This would take
about 10 business days to do.
I am hoping there is something in the registry I can change to fix this.

They said I have a DSP version and not a OEM because all they support is to have the OS load into Windows and nothing
else.
My Vista DVD just says Microsoft Vista OEM NOT DSP.

Can someone please tell me what to do.

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Hi Jill,

To answer your other question, you said you tried running the tool manually
from Task Scheduler. This doesn't work for me either so I suspect it's by
design. I would still recommend waiting for the task to run on its own
according to the triggers specified.
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As you asked me to do. I waited and I am getting an automatic restore point but only every three days and can't find
anyway of making it sooner.

As both You & I mentioned earlier the Task Scheduler that MS had on Vista install didn't work either.
It is set to do one everyday @ 12 AM and on startup. It doesn't do any of them.


I also went to the link you provider and right now this is my result: I have only six RP's now.
According to one of your associates I am working with at IE7. He told me his office is only using 20 GB's total on their
boxes.
You would think 30 GB's would be able to do more RP's.
C:\Windows\system32>vssadmin list shadowstorage
vssadmin 1.1 - Volume Shadow Copy Service administrative command-line tool
(C) Copyright 2001-2005 Microsoft Corp.

Shadow Copy Storage association
For volume: (C:)\\?\Volume{69cbdb50-ed23-11db-b413-806e6f6e6963}\
Shadow Copy Storage volume: (C:)\\?\Volume{69cbdb50-ed23-11db-b413-806e6f6e69
63}\
Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 27.006 GB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 28.124 GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 30 GB

Shadow Copy Storage association
For volume: (D:)\\?\Volume{69cbdb51-ed23-11db-b413-806e6f6e6963}\
Shadow Copy Storage volume: (D:)\\?\Volume{69cbdb51-ed23-11db-b413-806e6f6e69
63}\
Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 583.969 MB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 1.852 GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 36.621 GB
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I did cut this down. I had about 48 RP's so I changed it to 30 GB's. Now I only have six RP's

Any help would be appreciated.

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